tacking cable to brickwork

[tg]

I'd appreciate advice/experiences of a good tool for tacking cable to an
external brick wall, typically round cable between 0.25 and 0.5 inches, such
as network or coax cable. The staples would have to be round crown to go
neatly around the cable. Something cordless would be good. I have a couple
of arrow cable tackers but these are meant for internal stapling into wood
such as skirting boards etc. I appreciate a cordless tool might get
expensive. I've tried ringing some tool places but I'm tired of speaking to
housewives that have never even picked up a screwdriver, and trying to
hammer in nail based cable clips is frustrating, they just bend and fall
away. Thanks for any advice.

[John Rumm]

On 10/05/2013 11:45, tg wrote:

> I'd appreciate advice/experiences of a good tool for tacking cable to an
> external brick wall, typically round cable between 0.25 and 0.5 inches,
> such
> as network or coax cable. The staples would have to be round crown to go

That sounds rather large for network or coax...

> neatly around the cable. Something cordless would be good. I have a couple
> of arrow cable tackers but these are meant for internal stapling into
> wood such as skirting boards etc. I appreciate a cordless tool might get
> expensive. I've tried ringing some tool places but I'm tired of speaking
> to housewives that have never even picked up a screwdriver, and trying
> to hammer in nail based cable clips is frustrating, they just bend and
> fall away. Thanks for any advice.

First thing would be to go to an electrical wholesaler and get some
decent cable clips with masonry nails - the difference is substantial on
hard surfaces.

Another option is "pin plugs" (Tower make them). these are small 5mm
diameter wall plugs designed to be nailed into. Drill a small hole, and
pop it in, then nail as normal.

If you really want a nail gun type fixing, then I expect you would need
to look at commercial cable trunking type fixings which can be nailed on
with a cartridge nailer (Hilti etc). Often used for supporting and
fixing cable tray supports in concrete buildings.


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John.

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[Steve Firth]

"tg" <noe...@address12345.net> wrote:
> I'd appreciate advice/experiences of a good tool for tacking cable to an
> external brick wall, typically round cable between 0.25 and 0.5 inches, such
> as network or coax cable. The staples would have to be round crown to go
> neatly around the cable. Something cordless would be good

Like a hammer?

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[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <kmijb9$oi$1...@dont-email.me>,

You can get small wall plugs designed to take the nail in a standard cable
clip. Obviously a lot more work than simply hammering them in, but maybe
less than other methods. Last time I looked B&Q had them - but along with
the cable clips rather than wall plugs.

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[stuart noble]

On 10/05/2013 12:53, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <kmijb9$oi$1...@dont-email.me>,
> tg <noe...@address12345.net> wrote:
>> I'd appreciate advice/experiences of a good tool for tacking cable to an
>> external brick wall, typically round cable between 0.25 and 0.5 inches,
>> such as network or coax cable. The staples would have to be round crown
>> to go neatly around the cable. Something cordless would be good. I have
>> a couple of arrow cable tackers but these are meant for internal
>> stapling into wood such as skirting boards etc. I appreciate a cordless
>> tool might get expensive. I've tried ringing some tool places but I'm
>> tired of speaking to housewives that have never even picked up a
>> screwdriver, and trying to hammer in nail based cable clips is
>> frustrating, they just bend and fall away. Thanks for any advice.
>
> You can get small wall plugs designed to take the nail in a standard cable
> clip. Obviously a lot more work than simply hammering them in, but maybe
> less than other methods. Last time I looked B&Q had them - but along with
> the cable clips rather than wall plugs.
>

I use 25mm x size 4 screws and the small yellow plugs. I have to enlarge
the hole through the cable clip very slightly.
I suppose if I had a lot to do I might search out the proper bits, but
this gives a neat enough job

[Adam Funk]

That's the only kind of hammer I have.
:-(

[Andrew Mawson]

"John Rumm" wrote in message
news:st2dnTAsqItcRBHM...@brightview.co.uk...

>
>On 10/05/2013 11:45, tg wrote:
>
>> I'd appreciate advice/experiences of a good tool for tacking cable to an
>> external brick wall, typically round cable between 0.25 and 0.5 inches,
>> such
>> as network or coax cable. The staples would have to be round crown to go
>
>That sounds rather large for network or coax..

... ah he must be using 10base5: The bright yellow sheath will look very
tasteful round the outside of the house :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10BASE5

I still have some vampire taps and the tool for installing them somewhere

AWEM

[Steve Firth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2WmZDP3kIY

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[yendor]

On 10/05/2013 11:45, tg wrote:

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/CTCTP.html
I use tie plugs, a 6mm hole and hammer these in. you then put a tie
wrap through it and round cables. You can cut the tie wraps and add
more cables to the bunch as needed. May be overkill for a single cable.

Or a Hilti shot fire gun, you get different fixings depending what you
want to wall. This also may be overkill for light brick work.

A hammer and decent cable clips work fine for me most of the time, and
are quick and cheap.

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yendor

[Bill Wright]

Is the mortar strong enough to take clips? If so, just use good quality
clips.
http://www.unifix.co.uk/
Don't bash hard with the hammer. A large number of lighter taps works
far better. The nail point had to break the mortar, bit by bit. Use a
small hammer. 8oz is about right.

Bill

[Adam Funk]

On 2013-05-10, Steve Firth wrote:

> Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>> On 2013-05-10, Steve Firth wrote:
>>
>>> "tg" <noe...@address12345.net> wrote:
>>>> I'd appreciate advice/experiences of a good tool for tacking cable to an
>>>> external brick wall, typically round cable between 0.25 and 0.5 inches, such
>>>> as network or coax cable. The staples would have to be round crown to go
>>>> neatly around the cable. Something cordless would be good
>>>
>>> Like a hammer?
>>
>> That's the only kind of hammer I have.
>> :-(
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2WmZDP3kIY

Thanks for that cautionary tale: I'll stick to the non-electric
hammer. (Homer's is cordless!)

I'll refrain from comment on the armchair.

[Rick Hughes]

There used to be a manual tool for fitting clip to wall, steel tube
about 3/4" diam, with an inners sliding rod. ... you placed it over the
ckip, nails went inside a barrel, you hit 'tother end of barrel wit
'ammer and nails went in fine.

Prevented the usual problem of pins flying off at an angle when you
tried top hit then into brick.
Bit like an industrial strength 'pin push' you use for panel pins.