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JTM

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Feb 1, 2013, 6:07:15 AM2/1/13
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Hi all,
Am fitting an induction hob and the instructions suggest
HO5RR-F (2.5mm�) cable (rubber sheath) but the local sheds
seem to have only HO5VV-F

As I understand it the available cable (which I've got on
the built in oven) is only a problem in case of contact with
heating element. As this won't happen with the induction
hob will the HO5VV-F be OK to use or should I do some more
searching to find the correct cable?

John

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Andrew Gabriel

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Feb 1, 2013, 9:40:31 AM2/1/13
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In article <531724a70...@free.fr>,
JTM <usen...@free.fr> writes:
> Hi all,
> Am fitting an induction hob and the instructions suggest
> HO5RR-F (2.5mm€) cable (rubber sheath) but the local sheds
> seem to have only HO5VV-F
>
> As I understand it the available cable (which I've got on
> the built in oven) is only a problem in case of contact with
> heating element. As this won't happen with the induction
> hob will the HO5VV-F be OK to use or should I do some more
> searching to find the correct cable?

The hob housing may exceed the running temperature of
ordinary (70C) PVC.

Buy a length of 2.5mm immersion heater flex (make sure it's
2.5mm and not the more common 1.5mm). You'll probably find
that in B&Q.

The quality of the connections is important. Unless the
terminals are specifically designed for flex strands, I
would crimp on bootlace furules.

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Andrew Gabriel

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Feb 1, 2013, 9:51:59 AM2/1/13
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In article <kegk4v$7u5$1...@dont-email.me>,
and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) writes:
> In article <531724a70...@free.fr>,
> JTM <usen...@free.fr> writes:
>> Hi all,
>> Am fitting an induction hob and the instructions suggest
>> HO5RR-F (2.5mm€) cable (rubber sheath) but the local sheds
>> seem to have only HO5VV-F
>>
>> As I understand it the available cable (which I've got on
>> the built in oven) is only a problem in case of contact with
>> heating element. As this won't happen with the induction
>> hob will the HO5VV-F be OK to use or should I do some more
>> searching to find the correct cable?
>
> The hob housing may exceed the running temperature of
> ordinary (70C) PVC.
>
> Buy a length of 2.5mm immersion heater flex (make sure it's
> 2.5mm and not the more common 1.5mm). You'll probably find
> that in B&Q.

After posting that, I thought I'd look on the website, and
it's listed here:
http://www.diy.com/nav/fix/electrical/cable-accessories-management/cable/flexible__pvc___lsf__cable/Tower-Flex-Heat-Resistant-3-Core-479857-White-2-5mm-x-5m-9290562?skuId=9300261

> The quality of the connections is important. Unless the
> terminals are specifically designed for flex strands, I
> would crimp on bootlace furules.

Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it comes with them
already fitted.

Adam Funk

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Feb 3, 2013, 3:42:20 PM2/3/13
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On 2013-02-01, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

> In article <531724a70...@free.fr>,
> JTM <usen...@free.fr> writes:
>> Hi all,
>> Am fitting an induction hob and the instructions suggest
>> HO5RR-F (2.5mm€) cable (rubber sheath) but the local sheds
>> seem to have only HO5VV-F
...
> Buy a length of 2.5mm immersion heater flex (make sure it's
> 2.5mm and not the more common 1.5mm). You'll probably find
> that in B&Q.
>
> The quality of the connections is important. Unless the
> terminals are specifically designed for flex strands, I
> would crimp on bootlace furules.

How do you tell from looking at the terminals (if the documentation
doesn't mention it, I mean)?

Andrew Gabriel

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Feb 3, 2013, 3:58:21 PM2/3/13
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In article <cmu2u9x...@news.ducksburg.com>,
If the terminal has a clamp plate which will grip all the strands,
or something similar, then it's probably OK.

It it just has a screw which is going to grip a few strands and
push the others out of the way, then it needs ferrules crimping
on, or if you only have a crimper for insulated crimps, insulated
blade terminals crimping on which match the size of the cooker and
wall plate terminals (and the flex, obviously).

Adam Funk

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Feb 4, 2013, 7:30:16 AM2/4/13
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On 2013-02-03, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

> In article <cmu2u9x...@news.ducksburg.com>,
> Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> writes:
>> On 2013-02-01, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
>>
>>> In article <531724a70...@free.fr>,
>>> JTM <usen...@free.fr> writes:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Am fitting an induction hob and the instructions suggest
>>>> HO5RR-F (2.5mm€) cable (rubber sheath) but the local sheds
>>>> seem to have only HO5VV-F
>> ...
>>> Buy a length of 2.5mm immersion heater flex (make sure it's
>>> 2.5mm and not the more common 1.5mm). You'll probably find
>>> that in B&Q.
>>>
>>> The quality of the connections is important. Unless the
>>> terminals are specifically designed for flex strands, I
>>> would crimp on bootlace furules.
>>
>> How do you tell from looking at the terminals (if the documentation
>> doesn't mention it, I mean)?
>
> If the terminal has a clamp plate which will grip all the strands,
> or something similar, then it's probably OK.
>
> It it just has a screw which is going to grip a few strands and
> push the others out of the way, then it needs ferrules crimping
> on, or if you only have a crimper for insulated crimps, insulated
> blade terminals crimping on which match the size of the cooker and
> wall plate terminals (and the flex, obviously).

Oh, of course, thanks.

JTM

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Feb 7, 2013, 5:25:11 PM2/7/13
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In article <kegk4v$7u5$1...@dont-email.me>, Andrew Gabriel
<and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <531724a70...@free.fr>, JTM
> <usen...@free.fr> writes:
> > Hi all, Am fitting an induction hob and the
> > instructions suggest HO5RR-F (2.5mm�) cable (rubber
> > sheath) but the local sheds seem to have only HO5VV-F
> >

> The hob housing may exceed the running temperature of
> ordinary (70C) PVC.

> Buy a length of 2.5mm immersion heater flex (make sure
> it's 2.5mm and not the more common 1.5mm). You'll
> probably find that in B&Q.

> The quality of the connections is important. Unless the
> terminals are specifically designed for flex strands, I
> would crimp on bootlace furules.

Thanks for the replies, found the specified cable in another
outlet. Am impressed with the induction hob. much quieter
and faster than the cheap partable ones from Aldi etc.

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Dave Liquorice

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Feb 8, 2013, 4:42:03 AM2/8/13
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 23:25:11 +0100, JTM wrote:

> Am impressed with the induction hob. much quieter and faster than the
> cheap partable ones from Aldi etc.

What hob did you get?

Just got a a Lidl (Silvercrest) single plate portable to try and it's
*SO* much nicer to cook on than the bog standard electric hot plate that
unless we decide to go for (bottled) gas we will be getting an induction
hob.

First time in ages that I can gently reduce things without them catching
on the bottom of the pan. B-)

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JTM

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Feb 8, 2013, 3:48:49 PM2/8/13
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In article
<nyyfbegfubjuvyypb...@srv1.howhill.co.uk>,
Dave Liquorice <allsortsn...@howhill.com> wrote:
> What hob did you get?
It's a no name Ikea for 240 euros - there's big BUT -
The two rear rings are actually halogen things! only the
front ones are induction. Still pleased with it though

> Just got a a Lidl (Silvercrest) single plate portable to
> try and it's *SO* much nicer to cook on than the bog
> standard electric hot plate that unless we decide to go
> for (bottled) gas we will be getting an induction hob.
The propane hob might go next to the barbecue
The two portable hobs are 'Melissa' which we got from Netto

> First time in ages that I can gently reduce things
> without them catching on the bottom of the pan. B-)

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