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Phil

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Aug 17, 2001, 2:30:37 PM8/17/01
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I need to paint my new steel garage door as it's only coated with a
satin primer. Trouble is, what kind of paint should I use - the
manufacturers recommend a gloss oil-based paint, but don't specify a
particular make. Should I go for a particular brand like Dulux or
Hammerite?

Any recommendations anyone please?

Also, what type of brush should I buy? I don't want one that loses its
hairs after a few minutes! Are there certain types I should buy for
this type of paint and application?


Thanks,
Phil

Nightjar

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Aug 18, 2001, 6:35:51 AM8/18/01
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"Phil" <pmor...@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I need to paint my new steel garage door as it's only coated with a
> satin primer. Trouble is, what kind of paint should I use - the
> manufacturers recommend a gloss oil-based paint, but don't specify a
> particular make. Should I go for a particular brand like Dulux or
> Hammerite?

I used Dulux Weathershield exterior gloss, with an undercoat. Five years
down the line it is still in good condition. Hammerite is good on bare
metal, but not if the door is already primed.

> Also, what type of brush should I buy? I don't want one that loses its
> hairs after a few minutes! Are there certain types I should buy for
> this type of paint and application?

For a garage door, I would use a roller for the main area, with a brush for
the edges and fiddly bits around the framework.. I always buy the packs of
cheap brushes, so that I can throw them away after use. The ones from Focus
/ Do it All will shed a few bristles, but usually at the start of a job. I
don't worry about that on outdoor painting - I usually start on an
inconspicuous bit to get rid of them - and for indoors I simply paint some
scrap wood to get them out.

Colin Bignell


Max Bone

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Aug 18, 2001, 7:41:40 AM8/18/01
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Phil <pmor...@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote

>I need to paint my new steel garage door as it's only coated with a
>satin primer. Trouble is, what kind of paint should I use - the
>manufacturers recommend a gloss oil-based paint, but don't specify a
>particular make. Should I go for a particular brand like Dulux or
>Hammerite?

Use a good quality, low-maintenance solvent-borne exterior gloss (or
satin) paint, tougher than a water-borne finish - which is important for
surfaces which are likely to get knocks and bangs etc.

Don't use Hammerite it's not suitable (although they do a branded
'garage door' enamel - which is overpriced in limited range of colours.
You could use something like Sikkens Rubbol AZ which is a low-
maintenance enamel with a fantastically high gloss finish, or, their
Sikkens Rubbol Satura - another low maintenance coating, this time in a
Satin finish.

>Also, what type of brush should I buy? I don't want one that loses its
>hairs after a few minutes! Are there certain types I should buy for
>this type of paint and application?

As stated in the previous post, use a mini roller (4" mohair, or 4"
dense foam glosser) to get the material on quickly, in this sort of
weather coatings tend to go off quickly so it may be worthwhile thinning
them slightly with White Spirit to extend their open time. Lay off with
a good quality pure bristle brush to give a good finish - these don't
have to be expensive, either use the lower cost brushes which can be
thrown away (not to be confused with throw way brushes in the sheds):

http://www.decoratingdirect.co.uk/viewprod/r/RODFFJ/

or the heavily loaded:

http://www.decoratingdirect.co.uk/viewprod/r/RODR64/

Regards
--
Max Bone Decorating Direct Ltd
http://www.decoratingdirect.co.uk/
hundreds of products - secure online ordering - delivered to your door

Phil

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Aug 18, 2001, 9:15:38 AM8/18/01
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2001 12:41:40 +0100, Max Bone
<m...@decoratingdirect.co.uk> wrote:

Max and Colin - thanks for the advice.

I don't though think I'll be able to use a roller as the door has
raised panels - by the time I've touched it up with a brush it will
probably be the case that I may as well have used a brish in the first
place. :(


Thanks again,
Phil

Ledswinger

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Aug 20, 2001, 5:56:33 AM8/20/01
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"Phil" <pmor...@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote in message
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Having just done our garage door, I didn't find the raised panels aren't a
problem with a roller, and the job was done in no time at all. I was
using a nine inch gloss roller from Wickes rather than the four inch that MB
suggests, although I'd suggest that you follow his advice!

I've previously done the entire job by hand, and can assure you that rolling
and touching up *is* much quicker than doing the whole job by hand, and has
the potential to give a better finish. At this time of year I'd suggest
that you must follow Max's tip about thinning the paint to extend it's open
time - I didn't, and it shows (and I'm not redoing it now). I took the same
approach as Colin of buying the cheapest brushes I could find, wrapping them
in plastic during tea breaks, and throwing them out at the end of the job.
Incidentally, the cheapest place I found was <mumbles> Poundland, where they
were flogging normal quality cheapo bristle brushes as a pack of nine
different sizes for a quid. Check that they are proper bristle, not black
plastic fibre rubbish.

Led

The incredible Sulk

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Aug 21, 2001, 5:43:55 AM8/21/01
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Car spray paint :-)

Designed to work on steel.

--
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"He who sh*ts in the road will meet flies on his return" (Mr Natural)

"De Heffalumpis semper disputandum est" (Winne Ille Pu)

Phil

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Aug 21, 2001, 3:27:19 PM8/21/01
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 09:56:33 GMT, "Ledswinger"
<ledsw...@blueyonder.co.uniformkilo> wrote:

<snip>

Many thanks for the tip. :-)

Should I take the roller approach, what type of roller should I use?
Sponge? Excuse my ignorance on rollers. :)

Guess I'll need a tray too?


Cheers,
Phil


Phil

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Aug 21, 2001, 3:27:51 PM8/21/01
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:43:55 +0100, The incredible Sulk
<Pou...@Sulk.nospam> wrote:

>Car spray paint :-)
>
>Designed to work on steel.
>

Knowing me it will go not only ON the door but also around it
........ :)

Phil


KJR

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Aug 22, 2001, 3:10:53 AM8/22/01
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The incredible Sulk wrote:
>Car spray paint :-)
>Designed to work on steel.

Phil wrote:
> Knowing me it will go not only ON the door but also around it
> ........ :)

A use for all those free newspapers and some masking tape?

--
Ken Redman
please reply to: ken_r...@hotmail.com

Karen Mountford

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Aug 24, 2001, 4:33:48 AM8/24/01
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You need to be a bit careful. I had garage doors also covered in some
sort of matt metallic seeming paint. I used hammerite spray cans to
paint it but negelected to undercoat with the special primer as I
thought the paint already there WAS a primer. Silly me. Ten years on the
hammerite has produced spots, blisters and cracks and looks appalling.

Now it seems possible to me that putting car spray directly on top of
the same sort of surface might well produce the same sort of effect?

Karen
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The incredible Sulk

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Aug 24, 2001, 12:40:27 PM8/24/01
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Masking dear boy, masking.

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