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O...@oak-invalid.com

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Sep 23, 2003, 10:25:44 AM9/23/03
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Since there has been some discussion about the reconstruction of Iraq
and who will do it, it seems worthwhile to go to the US governmental
agencies who will be awarding these contracts. Here are the primary
ones that I found:


1. Best overview of all contracts awarded to US and other countries
for reconstruction in Iraq:

Dept of Commerce's list of USAID and other contracts for US and
international companies (detailed):
http://www.export.gov/iraq/contracts/index.html#chart

[rough estimate: my summary table]

Country Number of Subcontracts
______ ___________________
US 10
UK 3
Kuwait 5
Saudi Arabia 4
Iraq 87

2. DoD FAQ sheet:
http://www.acq.osd.mil/dpap/iraqreconstruction/iraqfactsheet.htm

3. US State Department:
http://www.state.gov/e/eb/cba/iraq/

a. USAID reconstruction contracts and grants:
http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/activities.html

4. US Army Corps of Engineers:
http://www.hq.usace.army.mil/cepa/iraq/contracts.htm

5. Trade Information Center:
http://www.ita.doc.gov/td/tic/

The Happy Hippy

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Sep 23, 2003, 12:17:22 PM9/23/03
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<O...@Oak-invalid.com> wrote ...


> Dept of Commerce's list of USAID and other contracts for US and
> international companies (detailed):
> http://www.export.gov/iraq/contracts/index.html#chart
>
> [rough estimate: my summary table]
>
> Country Number of Subcontracts
> ______ ___________________
> US 10
> UK 3
> Kuwait 5
> Saudi Arabia 4
> Iraq 87

An amazingly large allocation of sub-contract work for the Iraqis themselves
until one discounts all the subcontracts which are simply provision of
labour, minor repair work, and generally what looks to be painting and
decorating jobs.

It would be interesting to see the respective values of sub-contracts being
awarded to Iraqis and foreign companies. I suspect it would show the Iraqis
are being thrown crumbs while non-Iraqi companies rake in much more. On top
of that, the US companies doing the sub-contracting will be skimming off
their [un]fair share.

http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/activities.html details the allocation of funds,
but not where the money is going.


O...@oak-invalid.com

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Sep 23, 2003, 1:33:27 PM9/23/03
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:17:22 +0100, "The Happy Hippy"
<the.hap...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>
><O...@Oak-invalid.com> wrote ...
>
>
>> Dept of Commerce's list of USAID and other contracts for US and
>> international companies (detailed):
>> http://www.export.gov/iraq/contracts/index.html#chart
>>
>> [rough estimate: my summary table]
>>
>> Country Number of Subcontracts
>> ______ ___________________
>> US 10
>> UK 3
>> Kuwait 5
>> Saudi Arabia 4
>> Iraq 87
>
>An amazingly large allocation of sub-contract work for the Iraqis themselves
>until one discounts all the subcontracts which are simply provision of
>labour, minor repair work, and generally what looks to be painting and
>decorating jobs.

Can you get more details on this work?


>
>It would be interesting to see the respective values of sub-contracts being
>awarded to Iraqis and foreign companies. I suspect it would show the Iraqis
>are being thrown crumbs while non-Iraqi companies rake in much more. On top
>of that, the US companies doing the sub-contracting will be skimming off
>their [un]fair share.
>
>http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/activities.html details the allocation of funds,
>but not where the money is going.
>

Why dont you see if you can find out where it is going?

The contracts and subcontracts I posted were just the information that
I could find on the subject. The U.S. is spending billions -- 87
billion in the latest request -- and I dont think it unfair that US
tax paying business should reap some of the profits and return the
dollars to the US economy.

It may also be interesting to see what percentage of workers in the US
companies getting the contracts are from local countries. I noted in
an earlier search about Halliburton (www.halliburton.com) that they
employ 190,000 people world wide and subcontract jobs out to various
international companies as well. I am not sure it is safe to say that
when a US company wins a contract that all that money stays at home.

I would also be interested in seeing what the UK is contracting out,
if anything, in Iraq and possibly the Basra region.

This go round the US is paying about $20 Billion for Iraqi
reconstruction and we are expecting to pay more than that. It is also
noteworthy that Iraq under Saddam's rule is in debt to various
countries to the amount of $200 billion. It will be interesting to
see how much of this debt is forgiven. The largest debts are owed to
France, Germany and Russia, IIRC.

Here is a faq sheet about US spending:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/09/iraq/20030908-1.html

Oak

O...@oak-invalid.com

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Sep 25, 2003, 2:17:46 PM9/25/03
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:17:22 +0100, "The Happy Hippy"
<the.hap...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

You might be interested in this bit about Iraqi subcontractors.

http://www.iraq-today.com/news/business/00020.html


Oak

The Happy Hippy

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Sep 25, 2003, 8:42:24 PM9/25/03
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Maybe I'm a bit thick, but the BC talk about, "A recent tender, worth $944
million, involves supplying schools with air conditioners, freezers,
computers and uniforms"; I'm having great difficulty with reconciling that
with the Capital Construction award to Bechtel of $34.6 million initially,
up to $680 million over 18 months. Creative Associates International Inc
have only been awarded $1 million initially, up to $62.6 million over 12
months, for providing school equipment - From
http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/activities.html

O...@oak-invalid.com

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Sep 25, 2003, 9:41:57 PM9/25/03
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 01:42:24 +0100, "The Happy Hippy"
<the.hap...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Maybe you can find out what is going on by visiting their websites?


Oak

The Happy Hippy

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Sep 25, 2003, 10:49:31 PM9/25/03
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<O...@Oak-invalid.com> wrote ...

> >> You might be interested in this bit about Iraqi subcontractors.
> >>
> >> http://www.iraq-today.com/news/business/00020.html
> >
> >Maybe I'm a bit thick, but the BC talk about, "A recent tender, worth
$944
> >million, involves supplying schools with air conditioners, freezers,
> >computers and uniforms"; I'm having great difficulty with reconciling
that
> >with the Capital Construction award to Bechtel of $34.6 million
initially,
> >up to $680 million over 18 months. Creative Associates International Inc
> >have only been awarded $1 million initially, up to $62.6 million over 12
> >months, for providing school equipment - From
> >http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/activities.html
> >
> >
> Maybe you can find out what is going on by visiting their websites?

http://www.baghdadbusinesscenter.org/

No mention of this $944 tender there.

With the number of links which don't work, not even the Arabic ones - and
not even the registration pages - it doesn't inspire much confidence in the
organisation.


O...@oak-invalid.com

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Sep 26, 2003, 1:39:51 AM9/26/03
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Let's give it some time. After all, England wasnt built in a day.
:-)


Oak

The Happy Hippy

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Sep 26, 2003, 7:25:21 AM9/26/03
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<O...@Oak-invalid.com> wrote ...

> >With the number of links which don't work, not even the Arabic ones - and
> >not even the registration pages - it doesn't inspire much confidence in
the
> >organisation.
> >
> Let's give it some time. After all, England wasnt built in a day.
> :-)

Simple web sites are, and more complex ones don't take much longer. It's not
just that the links don't work, it's that they haven't noticed nor corrected
them, yet they are claiming to be dealing with a near billion dollar
tender - and they are saying they're the organisation all Iraqi companies
must go through to tender for US money/jobs.

Unfortunately "Give it time" has become the stock call of those who,
thankfully, haven't stooped as low as calling those who complain about the
current Iraq situation - whether it be WMD, rebuilding or the killings -
communists or other derogatorily intended name. Both are the brick wall of,
"debate ended".

Just how much time do we have to give ? Or is this an open-ended period
behind which all things awkward can be hidden from forever ?


O...@oak-invalid.com

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Sep 26, 2003, 8:27:23 AM9/26/03
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Okay then scream wolf.


Oak

Brian in Boston

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Sep 24, 2003, 10:55:04 AM9/24/03
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<O...@Oak-invalid.com> wrote in message
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>I dont think it unfair that US
> tax paying business should reap some of the profits and return the
> dollars to the US economy.

Sounds reasonable. But put another way you are saying that since the US has
had to spend so much money invading and occupying Iraq, the Iraqis should
pay them back. A much more dubious proposition - since it is not at all
clear that the Iraqis *want* the US to occupy them.

You cannot legimately force a "service" on someone, and then extract the
money from them without their consent. That's why there are laws against
protection rackets.

Brian


The Happy Hippy

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Sep 26, 2003, 9:38:22 AM9/26/03
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<O...@Oak-invalid.com> wrote ....

> >Unfortunately "Give it time" has become the stock call of those who,
> >thankfully, haven't stooped as low as calling those who complain about
the
> >current Iraq situation - whether it be WMD, rebuilding or the killings -
> >communists or other derogatorily intended name. Both are the brick wall
of,
> >"debate ended".
> >
> >Just how much time do we have to give ? Or is this an open-ended period
> >behind which all things awkward can be hidden from forever ?
> >
> Okay then scream wolf.

No; you are seeing everything in black-and-white again, it is not a question
of giving it time OR screaming wolf. There are many legitimate questions
which require answers. To say, give it time is simply to avoid having to
provide answers.


O...@oak-invalid.com

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Sep 26, 2003, 1:03:39 PM9/26/03
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You arent making any sense. Extract what money from Iraq?


Oak

O...@oak-invalid.com

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Sep 26, 2003, 1:06:55 PM9/26/03
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Ridiculous. I dont recall you bitching when Blix et al. were asking
for more time to uncover the WMD. However now that the US is in
charge you are suggesting time limits? Could we have an attitude
problem here?


Oak

The Happy Hippy

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Sep 26, 2003, 2:28:27 PM9/26/03
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<O...@Oak-invalid.com> wrote ...

> >> >Just how much time do we have to give ? Or is this an open-ended
period
> >> >behind which all things awkward can be hidden from forever ?
> >> >
> >> Okay then scream wolf.
> >
> >No; you are seeing everything in black-and-white again, it is not a
question
> >of giving it time OR screaming wolf. There are many legitimate questions
> >which require answers. To say, give it time is simply to avoid having to
> >provide answers.
> >
> Ridiculous. I dont recall you bitching when Blix et al. were asking
> for more time to uncover the WMD. However now that the US is in
> charge you are suggesting time limits? Could we have an attitude
> problem here?

No more so than when the US was asked to give it more time, but demands it
now they're in charge. How comes there was so much bitching when Blix wanted
more time, and yet you don't accept being treated the very same ?


O...@oak-invalid.com

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Sep 26, 2003, 4:34:23 PM9/26/03
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If you dont know the answer to that one, you havent been paying
attention.


Oak

The Happy Hippy

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Sep 26, 2003, 8:33:12 PM9/26/03
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<O...@Oak-invalid.com> wrote ...

> If you dont know the answer to that one, you havent been paying
> attention.

Shortform for, I am at a loss as to argue the case, or, hypocrisy.


O...@oak-invalid.com

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Sep 26, 2003, 10:22:15 PM9/26/03
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No it is not a short form. You should be able to state both sides of
the issue on the major posts that you have participated in. Failure
or refusal to do so suggests a rather one-sided view of the
discussion.


Oak

Bill in Frankfurt

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Sep 27, 2003, 10:00:27 AM9/27/03
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<O...@Oak-invalid.com> wrote in message
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Sounds like you are for it, Hap. Don't open the door when they come for you
at 5 am !

Bill in Warning


Brian in Boston

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Oct 1, 2003, 3:22:09 PM10/1/03
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"The Happy Hippy" <the.hap...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Funny how most of Oak's posts boil down to that same thing, isn't it?

Brian


Brian in Boston

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Oct 1, 2003, 4:15:44 PM10/1/03
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<O...@Oak-invalid.com> wrote in message
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I can't imagine you truly didn't understand the simple meaning of my words.
You must be pretending otherwise for some low-brow comic effect.

Brian


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