Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

set up/set-up/setup

0 views
Skip to first unread message

Cipher Niu

unread,
Mar 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/15/00
to
greetings,

I am always confused by the usage of the three phrases above. My on-line
dictionary indicates that 'set up' means 'establish' and 'setup' means
an organization or an equipment. But many times when I read materials
especially in IT area, I found that 'setup' can be used to give
expression to the procedure of seting up something. Also sometimes
'set-up' is chosed to carry the same meaning as 'setup'.

I would be grateful to see your comments.

cipher


Peter Duncanson

unread,
Mar 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/15/00
to

"Cipher Niu" <ly...@cn.oracle.com> wrote in message
news:38CF264D...@cn.oracle.com...
Hi

This reply is restricted to the use of 'setup' in the IT area:

In many computer systems the names of programs, files and commands cannot
include space characters. Therefore the program to set up an application is
in a file named 'setup' (or 'setup.exe' on some systems).

'setup' meaning to install or set up a computer application is a
'back-formation' from the program name. That is, once we are compelled for
technical reasons to name the program 'setup' it is natural to describe the
operation performed by the program as 'setup' rather than 'set up'.

To put it another way to 'setup' means to use a program named 'setup'.

Peter D


Bill McCray

unread,
Mar 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/15/00
to
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:57:34 +0800, Cipher Niu <ly...@cn.oracle.com>
wrote:

>greetings,
>
>I am always confused by the usage of the three phrases above. My on-line
>dictionary indicates that 'set up' means 'establish' and 'setup' means
>an organization or an equipment. But many times when I read materials
>especially in IT area, I found that 'setup' can be used to give
>expression to the procedure of seting up something. Also sometimes
>'set-up' is chosed to carry the same meaning as 'setup'.
>
>I would be grateful to see your comments.
>

>cipher

He set up the stage for the debate.
The set-up stage looked good.
The setup he used is often used for debates.

For those who use "setup" as a verb:
Today I setup the stage.
Yesterday I setupped the stage.

Bill McCray
Lexington, KY


Ian

unread,
Mar 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/15/00
to
"Cipher Niu" <ly...@cn.oracle.com> wrote in message
news:38CF264D...@cn.oracle.com...
> greetings,
>
> I am always confused by the usage of the three phrases
above. My on-line
> dictionary indicates that 'set up' means 'establish' and
'setup' means
> an organization or an equipment. But many times when I
read materials
> especially in IT area, I found that 'setup' can be used to
give
> expression to the procedure of seting up something. Also
sometimes
> 'set-up' is chosed to carry the same meaning as 'setup'.
>
> I would be grateful to see your comments.

Interesting aside: Did you know that 'set' is the English
word with the most definitions. Depending on whose
dictionary you choose to use there are something like 110
distinct definitions!

Ian

jaim...@my-deja.com

unread,
Mar 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/16/00
to
In article <8aoju4$ena$1...@newsreaderm1.core.theplanet.net>,
"Ian" <i_a...@karoo.net> wrote:

>>"Cipher Niu" <ly...@cn.oracle.com> wrote in message
>>news:38CF264D...@cn.oracle.com...
>>greetings,

>>I am always confused by the usage of the three phrases above. My on-

>>line dictionary indicates that 'set up' means 'establish' and 'setup'


>>means an organization or an equipment. But many times when I
>>read materials especially in IT area, I found that 'setup' can be
>>used to give expression to the procedure of seting up something. Also
>>sometimes 'set-up' is chosed to carry the same meaning as 'setup'.

>>I would be grateful to see your comments.

>Interesting aside: Did you know that 'set' is the English
>word with the most definitions. Depending on whose
>dictionary you choose to use there are something like 110
>distinct definitions!

>Ian

Even more if you ask Bill ("It depends on the meaning of 'is'")
Clinton. :^)
Jaime


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

Dr Robin Bignall

unread,
Mar 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/16/00
to

"Bill McCray" <BillM...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:38cfb977...@news.mindspring.com...

> On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:57:34 +0800, Cipher Niu <ly...@cn.oracle.com>
> wrote:
>
> >greetings,
> >
> >I am always confused by the usage of the three phrases above. My on-line
> >dictionary indicates that 'set up' means 'establish' and 'setup' means
> >an organization or an equipment. But many times when I read materials
> >especially in IT area, I found that 'setup' can be used to give
> >expression to the procedure of seting up something. Also sometimes
> >'set-up' is chosed to carry the same meaning as 'setup'.
> >
> >I would be grateful to see your comments.
> >
> >cipher
>
> He set up the stage for the debate.
> The set-up stage looked good.
> The setup he used is often used for debates.
>
> For those who use "setup" as a verb:
> Today I setup the stage.
> Yesterday I setupped the stage.
>
> Bill McCray
> Lexington, KY
>
'Setupped' has really upset me no end!
--
Wrmst rgds,

RB... (docr...@cwcom.net)

0 new messages