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Einde O'Callaghan
Feb 6, 2013, 1:57:07 PM2/6/13
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On 06.02.2013 19:19, JBrooke wrote:
> Need help with this one.
>
> You immigrate to a country but (I am told) you emigrate from a country.
> So is this sentence correct:
>
> "He was born in Mexico and immigrated with his parents to Japan"--even
> though, at the same time, he emigrated from Mexico?
>
> For it seems to me that no matter where you immigrate TO, you at the same
> time are emigrating FROM someplace. Very confusing to me, or perhaps just
> too subtle.
>
> Thanks for your assistance!
>
It's a question of emphasis - are you emphasising the country of
destination or the country of origin. In the sentence you quote the
emphasis is on the country of destination, i.e. Japan.
Hope that helps,
Best wishes, Einde O'Callaghan
> Need help with this one.
>
> You immigrate to a country but (I am told) you emigrate from a country.
> So is this sentence correct:
>
> "He was born in Mexico and immigrated with his parents to Japan"--even
> though, at the same time, he emigrated from Mexico?
>
> For it seems to me that no matter where you immigrate TO, you at the same
> time are emigrating FROM someplace. Very confusing to me, or perhaps just
> too subtle.
>
> Thanks for your assistance!
>
It's a question of emphasis - are you emphasising the country of
destination or the country of origin. In the sentence you quote the
emphasis is on the country of destination, i.e. Japan.
Hope that helps,
Best wishes, Einde O'Callaghan
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Whiskers
Feb 6, 2013, 5:32:27 PM2/6/13
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On 2013-02-06, JBrooke <Joc...@net.net> wrote:
> Need help with this one.
>
> You immigrate to a country but (I am told) you emigrate from a country.
> So is this sentence correct:
>
> "He was born in Mexico and immigrated with his parents to Japan"--even
> though, at the same time, he emigrated from Mexico?
>
> For it seems to me that no matter where you immigrate TO, you at the same
> time are emigrating FROM someplace. Very confusing to me, or perhaps just
> too subtle.
>
> Thanks for your assistance!
"He was born in Mexico and migrated with his parents to Japan". Only use
> Need help with this one.
>
> You immigrate to a country but (I am told) you emigrate from a country.
> So is this sentence correct:
>
> "He was born in Mexico and immigrated with his parents to Japan"--even
> though, at the same time, he emigrated from Mexico?
>
> For it seems to me that no matter where you immigrate TO, you at the same
> time are emigrating FROM someplace. Very confusing to me, or perhaps just
> too subtle.
>
> Thanks for your assistance!
"immigrate" or "emigrate" when you need to emphasise the "coming" or
"going" aspect of migration.
From a Japanese perspective he is an immigrant from Mexico, or even a
Mexican immigrant; at the same time, from a Mexican viewpoint, he is an
emigrant to Japan.
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-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
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Don P
Jul 15, 2013, 10:01:25 AM7/15/13
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On 06-Feb-2013 1:19 PM, JBrooke wrote:
> . . . it seems to me that no matter where you immigrate TO, you at the same
people who have been expelled from their birthplaces and no word
covers people whose birthplaces have been officially abolished.
There were from 1919 millions of such people, for whom the League
of Nations had to create "Nansen passports" since no (recognized)
state would provide them with the ID the 20th century now required.
After WW2 we called them Displaced Persons, not emigrants. They
were obviously different from Irish emigrants to America in the
19th century or British immigrants in Australia in the 20th.
When in doubt, migrant and migrate may be the simplest words,
since they specify relocation without implying assumptions about
destinations or places of origin.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa Canada)
> . . . it seems to me that no matter where you immigrate TO, you at the same
> time are emigrating FROM someplace. Very confusing to me, or perhaps just
> too subtle.
Unrealistic seems the best word. We do not use "emigrant" of
> too subtle.
people who have been expelled from their birthplaces and no word
covers people whose birthplaces have been officially abolished.
There were from 1919 millions of such people, for whom the League
of Nations had to create "Nansen passports" since no (recognized)
state would provide them with the ID the 20th century now required.
After WW2 we called them Displaced Persons, not emigrants. They
were obviously different from Irish emigrants to America in the
19th century or British immigrants in Australia in the 20th.
When in doubt, migrant and migrate may be the simplest words,
since they specify relocation without implying assumptions about
destinations or places of origin.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa Canada)
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