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Zolan D'Arth

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Mar 16, 2003, 6:14:25 PM3/16/03
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O.K. so I have the "great idea", I've got the plot, the story line, the
sequence and even started writing some...(is it just me, or do I hear
sniggering?) I thought I'd check out some writers' stuff on NG and came
around to this one (after a lot of American stuff from planet Cal-do-nuts)
it seems like you people might actually be writers! (?) Anyway, I digress,
there is a great deal of discussion about what publishers want, formulas,
styles, genres, it seems to be creativity forced out through a tap....
I might not be any good at this but I certainly want it to be "my" not any
good. I may only write one story, but its going to be mine and .... well you
get the idea, 'innocent intransigence' etc.
So where does the egocentric writer find a publisher who will give it a go?
I really have no idea where to start, what the medium is or how to protect
my work. (All jump in now...)


Doomwatch

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Mar 17, 2003, 1:55:18 PM3/17/03
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PUblishers usually like a finished product so it might be a good idea to
actually finish writing what you've begun, then try for an agent, not a
publisher. Most publishers (most agents come to that) won't even look at
your work.

But don't let that put you off. If you believe in what you're writing, keep
trying and you'll get there.

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Stuart

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Mar 19, 2003, 5:37:27 AM3/19/03
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Every writer has been where you are now, so relax. Next get hold of a
copy of the "Writer's and Artist's Yearbook", it will answer most of
your questions. They always have a copy in the local Library, or you
can buy it at nearly all bookshops (NB I said bookshops so your local
Smiths may not have a copy).

My advice is to write a first draft. That will give you an idea of
how difficult it is to write a full novel. Anything less than a full
length novel is unlikely to attract any attention.

As to what publishers want:-

Celebrity stories
Celebrity slimming books
Celebrity cook books
Autobigraphies
New novels by well known authors

They do not appear to particularly want new authors, so expect it to
be almost impossible to get published unless you know someone in the
business. JK Rowlin's books took immense effort to get published,
even though they obviously had great sales potential.

Welcome to the bitter world of the amateur author. Revel in the joy
of writing, only to realise that even a great novel will almost
certainly never see publication. Be bitter about talentless, yet well
connected people pumping out drivel and getting it put in the window
of WH Smiths.

I suggest you take up Train spotting - ultimately far more rewarding.


Stuart

The grass may be greener on the other side of the fence, but it still needs cutting.
(Keep the wolf from the door to reply, using the above email address)

Zolan D'Arth

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Mar 20, 2003, 4:20:13 PM3/20/03
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"Stuart" <Stu...@CoyoteStuartd.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Every writer has been where you are now, so relax. Next get hold of a
> copy of the "Writer's and Artist's Yearbook", it will answer most of
> your questions. They always have a copy in the local Library, or you
> can buy it at nearly all bookshops (NB I said bookshops so your local
> Smiths may not have a copy).
>
> My advice is to write a first draft. That will give you an idea of
> how difficult it is to write a full novel. Anything less than a full
> length novel is unlikely to attract any attention.
>
> As to what publishers want:-
>
> Celebrity stories
> Celebrity slimming books
> Celebrity cook books
> Autobigraphies
> New novels by well known authors
>
> They do not appear to particularly want new authors, so expect it to
> be almost impossible to get published unless you know someone in the
> business. JK Rowlin's books took immense effort to get published,
> even though they obviously had great sales potential.
>
> Welcome to the bitter world of the amateur author. Revel in the joy
> of writing, only to realise that even a great novel will almost
> certainly never see publication. Be bitter about talentless, yet well
> connected people pumping out drivel and getting it put in the window
> of WH Smiths.
>
> I suggest you take up Train spotting - ultimately far more rewarding.


LOL!!! :-D Cracking post Stuart!
Just as I expected then...!
Nice to see someone with the right kind of attitude on this NG, I was
beginning to get despondent. I think people who post their art on here for
amateur crits. are very brave, but there is an insipient, earnest pomposity
which is perhaps the manifestation of the frustration artists feel when they
go unrecognised. Don't get bitter, get even!
It seems to me that if you want to be creative, and get some reward for your
efforts, there must be an alternative to paper publishing sitting right
infront of you. (!) Why is it not possible to buy a novel on-line in
soft-copy? Why do we expect to see creative words only on paper on shelves?
Why don't authors (and far sighted publishers) publish their own work, for a
reasonable fee per download? (It works for the skin industry...) If we can
be creative in our art, why not be creative about marketing it and
publishing it? (No trees need be involved) Is this too radical, or did we
"...tried that in 1997 and it didn't work then..." Lets talk...


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