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Ian McCall

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Sep 29, 2012, 6:46:08 AM9/29/12
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I'm trying to set up Sheepsaver in order to run an ancient MacOS game.
Sheepshaver is booting up, telling me it will disable all extensions
because there isn't enough virtual memory. This is leading to the
resolution being 640x480 no matter what I set in the preferences. I've
read that Sheepshaver doesn't support virtual memory, but I also
remember running Sheepshaver in the past and had no trouble setting
different resolutions or running extentions.

Any ideas?


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Ian
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Ian McCall

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Sep 29, 2012, 8:47:59 AM9/29/12
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Ian McCall <i...@eruvia.org> wrote:
> ... This is leading to the resolution being 640x480 no matter what I set
> in the preferences. I've read that Sheepshaver doesn't support virtual
> memory, but I also remember running Sheepshaver in the past and had no
> trouble setting different resolutions or running extentions.
>

Sorted. Needed to allocate more physical RAM - bumped to 512 and no hassle
(went there from 32, don't know if intermediate step would also have been
fine).

Am now stuck that it won't recognise a (data) CD though. Insert it whilst
running - OS X mounts it, Sheepshaver does nothing. Set it up to mount at
boot and it's recognised but asks to format to volume(!). Anyone using it
with CDs successfully?


Cheers,
Ian

John Hill

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Sep 30, 2012, 4:07:23 AM9/30/12
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I haven't tried SheepShaver with a CD for a long time, but that's how I
originally got my data into it. So it must be possible.

If you can mount the CD in OSX, could you not copy the files to a folder
in OSX and then copy from there (on the Unix volume) to SheepShaver?

Bit busy to fire up sheepShaver at the moment, but if you continue to
have no success let me know and I'll experiment - though I'm by no means
an expert user of SS!

John.

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Ian McCall

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Sep 30, 2012, 7:08:22 AM9/30/12
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On 2012-09-30 08:07:23 +0000, ne...@erewhon.invalid (John Hill) said:

> If you can mount the CD in OSX, could you not copy the files to a folder
> in OSX and then copy from there (on the Unix volume) to SheepShaver?

Yes, that works. The thing is that I'm trying to set up an old game,
Sims 4, for my daughter. The game demands a CD in the drive. What
eventually 'worked' is creating an ISO of the CD and then editing the
prefs file to have the cdrom setting be that file. All very well and
works well (better) for this particular puropse, but it hasn't really
solved the underlying problem of not reading from a CD drive.

By the way I do like the .sheepvm feature - what would be great next is
suspend a la VMware and we've got a proper emulation package.
Sheepshaver was always a bit fiddly to use due to the lack of graphical
ways of configuring and the hidden preferences etc. - much better to
keep things self-contained in this manner. If we get a graphical means
of creating .sheepvms (at the moment you have to manual create a
folder, rename it, copy a prefs file in there and then manually edit
that prefs file to get going) then Sheepshaver is actually pretty
mature.


> Bit busy to fire up sheepShaver at the moment, but if you continue to
> have no success let me know and I'll experiment - though I'm by no means
> an expert user of SS!

Would be interested. I'm pretty sure I've used CDs with Sheepshaver in
the past, so I believe it's possible as well.

John Hill

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Oct 2, 2012, 6:42:09 AM10/2/12
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Ian McCall <i...@eruvia.org> wrote:

> > Bit busy to fire up sheepShaver at the moment, but if you continue to
> > have no success let me know and I'll experiment - though I'm by no means
> > an expert user of SS!
>
> Would be interested. I'm pretty sure I've used CDs with Sheepshaver in
> the past, so I believe it's possible as well.

I launched SheepShaver and tried a CD that had originally been burnt on
a Performa 630 (so now some twelve years old), and it mounted with no
problems. I was able to open various files on it.

I also tried an Apple development CD of that era, and it was OK too.

I tried a CD that was burnt under OSX and it mounted - though I had no
application on SheepShver that could open the files; I've no reason to
think that they would not have worked.

However, a CD that I believe was cut on a PC did not mount, and when I
launched SheepShaver with it mounted in OSX it wanted to reformat it.

I hope this helps...

Flavio Matani

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Oct 2, 2012, 4:59:54 PM10/2/12
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John Hill <ne...@erewhon.invalid> wrote:

> I launched SheepShaver and tried a CD that had originally been burnt on
> a Performa 630 (so now some twelve years old), and it mounted with no
> problems. I was able to open various files on it.

Blast from the past! Easily the worst Mac I ever had..


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D.M. Procida

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Oct 3, 2012, 3:16:58 AM10/3/12
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Flavio Matani <flavio_matani...@mac.com> wrote:

> John Hill <ne...@erewhon.invalid> wrote:
>
> > I launched SheepShaver and tried a CD that had originally been burnt on
> > a Performa 630 (so now some twelve years old), and it mounted with no
> > problems. I was able to open various files on it.
>
> Blast from the past! Easily the worst Mac I ever had..

So, you never had the pleasure of owning a Power Mac 4400?

Daniele

Flavio Matani

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Oct 3, 2012, 10:52:06 AM10/3/12
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Ah, no; not that one :-0

Woody

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Oct 3, 2012, 1:34:47 PM10/3/12
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That wasn't good. Ironically I had a clone, that was based on the 4400
hardware, and it was one of the best macs I ever had.


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Ian McCall

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Oct 5, 2012, 2:12:40 AM10/5/12
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Rowland McDonnell <real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> [1] Mac 512Ke plus external floppy drive plus ImageWriter II turns out
> to be very useful from the point of view of an early 1990s student. Do
> *NOT* eschew the second floppy drive.

My Human/Computer Interaction lecturer had an SE/30 in the early 90s. That
was a beast.

I started university with an ST and Panasonic 24pin dot matrix, but ended
it with an original LC with 12" screen - again, early 90s. That model has
been criticised over the years but I thought it was great. Add in a
StyleWriter (original) and you're done.

John Hill

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Oct 5, 2012, 3:41:42 AM10/5/12
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Rowland McDonnell <real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> But I've got a Macintosh 512Ke (fat Mac with knobs on) and I've tried
> using it without the external floppy drive that I've got to go with
> it[1] (just for the hell of it). Oh boy.
>
> Clearly, the potential is there (as is demonstrated when two floppy
> drives are in play), but...
>
> Rowland.

Did you use it in anger, at the time?

I had one in 1985, and it was SUCH an advance over anything I'd used
before (mainframes of various kinds, electric typewriters...) - though I
admit that I did graft on an external drive fairly quicky (a whole 20
MB, it was).

As far as I am concerned, they've got better and better ever since…

My Performa 630 was OK, it did everything I wanted, only it got left
behind by progress. So I got a G4, but I was sad to see the Performa go.
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Ian McCall

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Oct 6, 2012, 4:37:19 AM10/6/12
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On 2012-10-02 10:42:09 +0000, ne...@erewhon.invalid (John Hill) said:

> I launched SheepShaver and tried a CD that had originally been burnt on
> a Performa 630 (so now some twelve years old), and it mounted with no
> problems. I was able to open various files on it.
>
> I also tried an Apple development CD of that era, and it was OK too.

Interesting. I have just gone back and tried a Mac format CD and it
still isn't recognised whislt Sheepshaver is running. If I reboot, I
get the same 'unrecognised disk' thingy. Mind you, this is a Japanases
shareware disk that's around 16 years old (yes, really - it has my
StartupFrills utility on it so I kept it). Perhaps thre's something odd
about that one - will look to see if I actually -have- any CDs I
created on OS X that aren't audio ones.
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