Safari won't quit showing beach ball / HELP!

[Matt]

Hi,

iMac 27 5K running Sierra, Safari won't quit showing beach ball when
trying to quit.
I already tried everything I know, even reinstalling the OS Sierra,
running antivirus, etc.

I find the following related fix when searching the Apple discussion forum:

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Quit Safair.

Open the Finder. From the Finder menu bar click Go > Go to Folder

Type of copy/paste: ~/Library/Caches/com.apple.Safari

Click Go then move the Cache.db file from the com.apple.Safari folder
to the Trash.

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But I don't have "com.apple.Safari" in my Library/Caches Folder, I only
have 2 items there: com.apple.desktop.admin.png and
com.apple.iconservices.store.

Before experiencing this Safari problem I did some cache cleaning
because there was a big delay when trying to "Open With" with the right
click mouse, but I don't know if this could be related with the Safari
problem as I performed the same cache cleaning before without problems.

UPDATE: I may have some sort of virus as it just popped out a warning
about my 32 gigs of RAM being full, which is impossible.

I´ll appreciate any help regarding this problem

TIA!
Matt

[Chris Ridd]

Why a virus?

But a lack of memory may be why Safari's not closing cleanly.

Run Activity Monitor and see what's using memory - post a screenshot
somewhere if you want help understanding it.

--
Chris

[eastender]

I'm having a lot of trouble with Safari (and Safari Technology
Preview). Both build up to being massive hogs of application memory and
eventually stall the machine, but I can usually force quit them first.

I'm running a quad core i7 Mini with 16GB ram and an SSD.

E. (Marc)

[Matt]

Thanks for your help Marc!

I just installed Safari Technology Preview hoping to rewrite or intall
over Safari and it is running OK.
I惴 also using Opera Developer which runs very nice and it also has
VPN, but still I can愒
comprehend what happens to the default browser, Safari.

My system:

iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015),
Processor: 4 GHz Intel Core i7,
RAM: 32 GB 1867 MHz DDR3,
Graphics: AMD Radeon R9 M395X with VRAM (Total): 4096 MB
Hard Drive: APPLE SSD SM0512G
Running MAC OS Sierra 10.12.2

Regards
Matt

[Matt]

Many thanks to Chris Ridd and eastender for helping me!

I removed CleanMyMac (newest version) as instructed by Apple tech, and
it愀 working fine now.

Regards,
Matt

> I惻l appreciate any help regarding this problem
>
> TIA!
> Matt

[Andy H]

Matt <ma...@nomail.com> wrote:

> Many thanks to Chris Ridd and eastender for helping me!
>
> I removed CleanMyMac (newest version) as instructed by Apple tech, and
> it愀 working fine now.

Strange, I've had that installed but no issues with Safari.

The only problems I've had with browsers not quitting properly is when I
had Trusteer Rapport installed (as advised by some banking sites). Turns
out it's a real nasty thing that causes endless issues for many on both
MacOS and Windows.

--
Andy Hewitt

[Matt]

I also find it strange, as I have CleanMy Mac installed in 2 more MACs
for a long time without problems.

Now I installed OniX in all my MACs, many pros trust this program; it
has several Cleaning, Maintenance and Utilities options but it愀 no so
easy to use as CmyMac. e.g.: I have yet to find out what to select (and
not) every time I perform System and User cleaning between the many
options the program offers.

I miss that CleanMyMac automatically offers to Deep Clean all the
pieces left behind when a program is removed, and I can't yet find such
an option in Onyx.

But OnyX seems more efficient to delete caches and others, I assume the
trick is to learn how to select the correct settings.

Matt.

[Andy H]

Matt <ma...@nomail.com> wrote:

> On 2017-01-01 17:20:22 +0000, Andy H said:
>
> > Matt <ma...@nomail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Many thanks to Chris Ridd and eastender for helping me!
> >>
> >> I removed CleanMyMac (newest version) as instructed by Apple tech, and
> >> it愀 working fine now.
> >
> > Strange, I've had that installed but no issues with Safari.
> >
> > The only problems I've had with browsers not quitting properly is when I
> > had Trusteer Rapport installed (as advised by some banking sites). Turns
> > out it's a real nasty thing that causes endless issues for many on both
> > MacOS and Windows.
>
> I also find it strange, as I have CleanMy Mac installed in 2 more MACs
> for a long time without problems.

As far as I know, CMM doesn't do anything in the background unless you
run the menubar helper.

> Now I installed OniX in all my MACs, many pros trust this program; it
> has several Cleaning, Maintenance and Utilities options but it愀 no so
> easy to use as CmyMac. e.g.: I have yet to find out what to select (and
> not) every time I perform System and User cleaning between the many
> options the program offers.

I've been bitten by CMM myself, and ended up with a ruined Photos
library.

Another thing to be aware of is that it's a bit aggressive with cleaning
out some stuff that's needed - such as the Language packs, which I once
deleted, and then had to reinstall stuff as so much got broken.

> I miss that CleanMyMac automatically offers to Deep Clean all the
> pieces left behind when a program is removed, and I can't yet find such
> an option in Onyx.

AppCleaner is both free and very effective for this.

> But OnyX seems more efficient to delete caches and others, I assume the
> trick is to learn how to select the correct settings.

I use a combination of these tools, as they all do something a little
different in places. Onyx is great, but I only use it for specific
cleaning tasks. Likewise I also use SierraCacheCleaner (aka,
whateverMacsOSCacheCleaner), which is quite comprehensive, but does also
have a startup utility script, that allows you to run a bunch of stuff
under Single User Boot (much like AppleJack used to).

As with all these things though, much care is needed to use them
effectively, and without screwing up your system. Use them sparingly,
and only as a fault finding process - if it's not broke, don't fix it!

--
Andy Hewitt

[Gwynne Harper]

Andy H <thewil...@icloud.com> wrote:

> > I miss that CleanMyMac automatically offers to Deep Clean all the
> > pieces left behind when a program is removed, and I can't yet find such
> > an option in Onyx.
>
> AppCleaner is both free and very effective for this.

I use Hazel for this (and more besides):

<https://www.noodlesoft.com/>


Gwynne
--
My real email is net, not line.

[Paul Sture]

On 2017-01-01, Gwynne Harper <g.ha...@gmx.line> wrote:
> Andy H <thewil...@icloud.com> wrote:
>
>> > I miss that CleanMyMac automatically offers to Deep Clean all the
>> > pieces left behind when a program is removed, and I can't yet find such
>> > an option in Onyx.
>>
>> AppCleaner is both free and very effective for this.
>
> I use Hazel for this (and more besides):
>
><https://www.noodlesoft.com/>

+! for Hazel. I bought it for its workflow functionality. Its app
cleanup is a bonus.

--
"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" -- Mark Twain

[SM]

Paul Sture <nos...@sture.ch> wrote:

> > I use Hazel for this (and more besides):
> >
> ><https://www.noodlesoft.com/>
>
> +! for Hazel. I bought it for its workflow functionality. Its app
> cleanup is a bonus.

+!! for Hazel

Stuart
--
cut that out to reply

[Matt]

Thanks to you all for the input!

I´ll try Hazel.

Matt.

[Andy H]

Gwynne Harper <g.ha...@gmx.line> wrote:

> Andy H <thewil...@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> > > I miss that CleanMyMac automatically offers to Deep Clean all the
> > > pieces left behind when a program is removed, and I can't yet find such
> > > an option in Onyx.
> >
> > AppCleaner is both free and very effective for this.
>
> I use Hazel for this (and more besides):
>
> <https://www.noodlesoft.com/>

Interesting, never seen that one before.

Can't say I have a use for the filing features, and I'm pretty happy
with AppCleaner otherwise, so the $30 for that seems a little poor value
for my needs.

Looks like a well done app though.

--
Andy Hewitt