Sonoma and "blue caps lock arrow"

[jbrennand]

Recently gone on to Sonoma 14.1 - and the "blue caps lock indicator"
arrow - which comes on at all times the key is on, is beginning to annoy
me :-(

Searching reveals that this another helpful feature added by Apple that
cant be turned off in settings.

Lots of detailed discussion on Reddit, etc., on how to inactivate it via
Terminal commands.

So, anyone on here done this successfully and can confirm what exact
text works in the Terminal.

Thanks for any input. John

[TimS]

On 30 Oct 2023 at 16:32:00 GMT, "jbrennand" <bren...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Recently gone on to Sonoma 14.1 - and the "blue caps lock indicator"
> arrow - which comes on at all times the key is on, is beginning to annoy
> me :-(
>
> Searching reveals that this another helpful feature added by Apple that
> cant be turned off in settings.

Are you telling me that in Sonoma you can no longer permanently disable
CapsLock? This is pretty much the first thing I do at any computer I sit down
at, although how you do it in Windows is a mystery.

Or just that you can't disable the blue light bollocks?


--
Tim

[jbrennand]

Whenever you press the "Caps Lock" key down - a blue up arrow appears on
screen under the next letter to be typed. It remains there until you
press the key off. I just use the shift key now - but its really
annoying when wanting to type lots of capitals continuously.

Whether you can permanently disable caps lock in settings... I am not
sure - but I have never checked.


This blue arrow bollox "feature" cannot be disabled in the settings.
The folks on Reddit have posted script to input on Terminal to remove
it. But I am not too confident in Terminal so just looking for
confirmation and clarity.

Cheers John

[TimS]

On 31 Oct 2023 at 00:54:58 GMT, "jbrennand" <bren...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> On 30/10/2023 16:39, TimS wrote:
>> On 30 Oct 2023 at 16:32:00 GMT, "jbrennand" <bren...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Recently gone on to Sonoma 14.1 - and the "blue caps lock indicator"
>>> arrow - which comes on at all times the key is on, is beginning to annoy
>>> me :-(
>>>
>>> Searching reveals that this another helpful feature added by Apple that
>>> cant be turned off in settings.
>>
>> Are you telling me that in Sonoma you can no longer permanently disable
>> CapsLock? This is pretty much the first thing I do at any computer I sit down
>> at, although how you do it in Windows is a mystery.
>>
>> Or just that you can't disable the blue light bollocks?
>>
>>
> Whenever you press the "Caps Lock" key down - a blue up arrow appears on
> screen under the next letter to be typed. It remains there until you
> press the key off. I just use the shift key now - but its really
> annoying when wanting to type lots of capitals continuously.

Caps Lock is annoying when you're typing a password.

> Whether you can permanently disable caps lock in settings... I am not
> sure - but I have never checked.

On macOS you can, certainly, and AISB I do it on any mac I use.

> This blue arrow bollox "feature" cannot be disabled in the settings.
> The folks on Reddit have posted script to input on Terminal to remove
> it. But I am not too confident in Terminal so just looking for
> confirmation and clarity.

No Sonoma here (yet) so can't help with that, sorry, but keep us posted on the
matter, thanks.

--
Tim

[Martin S Taylor]

On 31 Oct 2023, TimS wrote
(in article <kqbpo1...@mid.individual.net>):

> > Whenever you press the "Caps Lock" key down - a blue up arrow appears on
> > screen under the next letter to be typed. It remains there until you
> > press the key off. I just use the shift key now - but its really
> > annoying when wanting to type lots of capitals continuously.
>
> Caps Lock is annoying when you're typing a password.

That's the main point of the blue arrow, surely? To remind you that you're
typing in all caps, and that's why your password isn't being recognised. It's
the one time I really find the blue arrow useful.

>
>
> > Whether you can permanently disable caps lock in settings... I am not
> > sure - but I have never checked.
>
> On macOS you can, certainly, and AISB I do it on any mac I use.

AISB?

Martin

[Jörg Lorenz]

What's your problem? I love it.

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[Graeme Wall]

It's one of those marmite things, you either hate it or love it. Like
you I like it.

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This account not read.

[Jörg Lorenz]

:-)


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De gustibus non est disputandum

[Paul Mackenzie Smith]

On 30 Oct 2023 at 16:32:00 GMT, "jbrennand" <bren...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

I've tried this, and its working for me (thanks to "precision01" on the
MacRumors forum):

1. Open Terminal.
2. Type the following sudo command (or copy and paste):

sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/FeatureFlags/Domain/UIKit.plist
redesigned_text_cursor -dict-add Enabled -bool NO

3. Restart the computer

No side issues that I'm aware of, and I haven't tried reverting the command,
so I don't know if changing "NO" to "YES" would work.

Paul

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Mac mini M1, 13.5; iPad Pro 9.7"; iPhone 13 Mini
To reply, take the pith out of blueyonder.

[Sara Merriman]

I hate it. There's a light on the caps lock key, and in the old days, a
caps-lock symbol would appear faintly in the box you're typing in as a
reminder. The big blue arrow is a pain in the arse.
--
Spike is a sturdy birdy

[Sara Merriman]

On 31 Oct 2023 at 11:11:38 GMT, "Paul Mackenzie Smith"

<pau...@bluepithyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> On 30 Oct 2023 at 16:32:00 GMT, "jbrennand" <bren...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Recently gone on to Sonoma 14.1 - and the "blue caps lock indicator"
>> arrow - which comes on at all times the key is on, is beginning to annoy
>> me :-(
>>
>> Searching reveals that this another helpful feature added by Apple that
>> cant be turned off in settings.
>>
>> Lots of detailed discussion on Reddit, etc., on how to inactivate it via
>> Terminal commands.
>>
>> So, anyone on here done this successfully and can confirm what exact
>> text works in the Terminal.
>>
>> Thanks for any input. John
>
> I've tried this, and its working for me (thanks to "precision01" on the
> MacRumors forum):
>
> 1. Open Terminal.
> 2. Type the following sudo command (or copy and paste):
>
> sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/FeatureFlags/Domain/UIKit.plist
> redesigned_text_cursor -dict-add Enabled -bool NO
>
> 3. Restart the computer
>
> No side issues that I'm aware of, and I haven't tried reverting the command,
> so I don't know if changing "NO" to "YES" would work.
>
> Paul

I shall that alost immediately!
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with what Bob in accounting bought last year. Trace it back - they buy
Microsoft because the IBM Selectric didn't suck much" - P Seebach, afc

[TimS]

On 31 Oct 2023 at 08:48:48 GMT, "Martin S Taylor"

As I said before (FWIW).

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Tim

[jbrennand]

On 31/10/2023 11:11, Paul Mackenzie Smith wrote:
> On 30 Oct 2023 at 16:32:00 GMT, "jbrennand" <bren...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Recently gone on to Sonoma 14.1 - and the "blue caps lock indicator"
>> arrow - which comes on at all times the key is on, is beginning to annoy
>> me :-(
>>
>> Searching reveals that this another helpful feature added by Apple that
>> cant be turned off in settings.
>>
>> Lots of detailed discussion on Reddit, etc., on how to inactivate it via
>> Terminal commands.
>>
>> So, anyone on here done this successfully and can confirm what exact
>> text works in the Terminal.
>>
>> Thanks for any input. John
>
> I've tried this, and its working for me (thanks to "precision01" on the
> MacRumors forum):
>
> 1. Open Terminal.
> 2. Type the following sudo command (or copy and paste):
>
> sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/FeatureFlags/Domain/UIKit.plist
> redesigned_text_cursor -dict-add Enabled -bool NO
>
> 3. Restart the computer
>
> No side issues that I'm aware of, and I haven't tried reverting the command,
> so I don't know if changing "NO" to "YES" would work.
>
> Paul
>

Thanks Paul... its about to be done !

John

[Sara Merriman]

I just did it and it dies indeed work. Lovely.

--
Billy is silly

[jbrennand]

On 31/10/2023 11:11, Paul Mackenzie Smith wrote:

> On 30 Oct 2023 at 16:32:00 GMT, "jbrennand" <bren...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Recently gone on to Sonoma 14.1 - and the "blue caps lock indicator"
>> arrow - which comes on at all times the key is on, is beginning to annoy
>> me :-(
>>
>> Searching reveals that this another helpful feature added by Apple that
>> cant be turned off in settings.
>>
>> Lots of detailed discussion on Reddit, etc., on how to inactivate it via
>> Terminal commands.
>>
>> So, anyone on here done this successfully and can confirm what exact
>> text works in the Terminal.
>>
>> Thanks for any input. John
>
> I've tried this, and its working for me (thanks to "precision01" on the
> MacRumors forum):
>
> 1. Open Terminal.
> 2. Type the following sudo command (or copy and paste):
>
> sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/FeatureFlags/Domain/UIKit.plist
> redesigned_text_cursor -dict-add Enabled -bool NO
>
> 3. Restart the computer
>
> No side issues that I'm aware of, and I haven't tried reverting the command,
> so I don't know if changing "NO" to "YES" would work.
>
> Paul
>

Hi Paul

Tried it via cut and paste and it didnt work - twice.

I include the text from Terminal below.

Gobbledegook to me :-) Any ideas?

John
__________

Last login: Tue Oct 31 14:15:05 on console

The default interactive shell is now zsh.
To update your account to use zsh, please run `chsh -s /bin/zsh`.
For more details, please visit https://support.apple.com/kb/HT208050.
MacBook-Air-3:~ JB$
MacBook-Air-3:~ JB$ sudo defaults write
/Library/Preferences/FeatureFlags/Domain/UIKit.plist
Password:
Sorry, try again.
Password:
Command line interface to a user's defaults.
Syntax:

'defaults' [-currentHost | -host <hostname>] followed by one of the
following:

read shows all defaults
read <domain> shows defaults for given domain
read <domain> <key> shows defaults for given domain, key

read-type <domain> <key> shows the type for the given
domain, key

write <domain> <domain_rep> writes domain (overwrites existing)
write <domain> <key> <value> writes key for domain

rename <domain> <old_key> <new_key> renames old_key to new_key

delete <domain> deletes domain
delete <domain> <key> deletes key in domain
delete-all <domain> deletes the domain from all
containers
delete-all <domain> Key> deletes key in domain from all
containers

import <domain> <path to plist> writes the plist at path to domain
import <domain> - writes a plist from stdin to domain
export <domain> <path to plist> saves domain as a binary plist
to path
export <domain> - writes domain as an xml plist to
stdout
domains lists all domains
find <word> lists all entries containing word
help print this help

<domain> is ( <domain_name> | -app <application_name> | -globalDomain )
or a path to a file omitting the '.plist' extension

<value> is one of:
<value_rep>
-string <string_value>
-data <hex_digits>
-int[eger] <integer_value>
-float <floating-point_value>
-bool[ean] (true | false | yes | no)
-date <date_rep>
-array <value1> <value2> ...
-array-add <value1> <value2> ...
-dict <key1> <value1> <key2> <value2> ...
-dict-add <key1> <value1> ...
MacBook-Air-3:~ JB$
________________________________________

[TimS]

Well it helps of you enter the entire command instead of just part of it.
This:

sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/FeatureFlags/Domain/UIKit.plist
redesigned_text_cursor -dict-add Enabled -bool NO

is all supposed to be entered before you press the Return key. Copy/paste
should work, but don't copy the Return that may be in the middle of the
command as you see it, due to line lengths and stuff, not put there by Paul.
And do you have a sudo password? Without it you won't be able to enter
privileged commands.

--
Tim

[Sara Merriman]

does!
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that someone has called your intelligence or competence into question, don't
ask questions on Usenet where the answers won't be carefully tailored to avoid
tripping your hair-trigger insecurities." - D M Procida, UCSM

[jbrennand]

Thanks Tim - rookie error :-)

But just tried again (hand-typed!)and it still hasnt changed it - now
getting this...

John
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MacBook-Air-3:~ JB$ sudo defaults write

/Library/Preferences/FeatureFlags/Domain/UIKit.plistredesigned_text_cursor_
-dict-add Enabled -bool NO
Password:
2023-10-31 14:59:52.919 defaults[1068:14808] Unexpected argument -bool;
leaving defaults unchanged.
MacBook-Air-3:~ JB$
__________________________________

[Graham J]

I see an extra underscore _ not sure what effect that woul dhave.

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Graham J

[TimS]

The _ is at the end of cursor.

Also there is a missing space needed after plist.

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Tim

[jbrennand]

Sorted - that's much better now !

Thanks a lot for your help and patience... senility is setting in :-)

John