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D.M. Procida
Feb 19, 2012, 6:46:53 AM2/19/12
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How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
macron? I'm using Lion.
Daniele
macron? I'm using Lion.
Daniele
Richard Kettlewell
Feb 19, 2012, 7:10:35 AM2/19/12
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real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) writes:
> How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
> macron? I'm using Lion.
System preferences > Language & Text > Input Sources, add 'US Extended'
> How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
> macron? I'm using Lion.
and make sure 'Show input menu in menu bar' is ticked, then select it
from the input menu (look for a flag) when you need it.
Use the keyboard viewer to see what key combinations produce which
symbols; alt+t for thorn, for example. For diacritics, enter the
diacritic first then the letter.
There doesn't seem to be an equivalent 'British Extended'.
If you know the hex codes there's a 'Unicode hex input' input source
too.
--
http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
Woody
Feb 19, 2012, 7:16:18 AM2/19/12
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D.M. Procida <real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
> How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
> macron? I'm using Lion.
Acording to the interweb thingy if you select the american international
> How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
> macron? I'm using Lion.
keyboard as your keyboard layout, you can do a series of key
combinations such as Opt-A,X for macron etc.
Or you can use the character input panel if you are just using them
occasionally.
--
Woody
Steve Hodgson
Feb 19, 2012, 9:57:23 AM2/19/12
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In article
<1kfpmxg.1cbwff6q612y8N%real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk>,
custom keyboard layout with Ukelele.
http://bit.ly/ygy0DM
I've used this in the past to create a more human-friendly keyboard
layout for commonly used Maltese characters.
--
Cheers,
Steve
<1kfpmxg.1cbwff6q612y8N%real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk>,
D.M. Procida <real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
> How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
> macron? I'm using Lion.
If it's a character you need to type regularly you could create a
> How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
> macron? I'm using Lion.
custom keyboard layout with Ukelele.
http://bit.ly/ygy0DM
I've used this in the past to create a more human-friendly keyboard
layout for commonly used Maltese characters.
--
Cheers,
Steve
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Simon Dobbs
Feb 19, 2012, 11:18:46 AM2/19/12
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:46:53 +0000, D.M. Procida wrote
(in article
<1kfpmxg.1cbwff6q612y8N%real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk>):
> How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
> macron? I'm using Lion.
>
> Daniele
I would use that old stalwart, PopChar
(in article
<1kfpmxg.1cbwff6q612y8N%real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk>):
> How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
> macron? I'm using Lion.
>
> Daniele
Jaimie Vandenbergh
Feb 19, 2012, 1:14:59 PM2/19/12
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:10:35 +0000, Richard Kettlewell
<r...@greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) writes:
>> How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
>> macron? I'm using Lion.
>
>System preferences > Language & Text > Input Sources, add 'US Extended'
An alternative if you'd rather pick them from a list than type them:
<r...@greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) writes:
>> How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
>> macron? I'm using Lion.
>
>System preferences > Language & Text > Input Sources, add 'US Extended'
Keyboard, Keyboard tab, I tick the "show keyboard and character
viewers on menu bar".
Thorn and u-with-macron are under "latin" for some reason.
Cheers - Jaimie
--
If you own a jackhammer, every problem looks like hours of fun
Chris Ridd
Feb 19, 2012, 2:10:43 PM2/19/12
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On 2012-02-19 18:14:59 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:10:35 +0000, Richard Kettlewell
> <r...@greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) writes:
>>> How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
>>> macron? I'm using Lion.
>>
>> System preferences > Language & Text > Input Sources, add 'US Extended'
>
> An alternative if you'd rather pick them from a list than type them:
>
> Keyboard, Keyboard tab, I tick the "show keyboard and character
> viewers on menu bar".
>
> Thorn and u-with-macron are under "latin" for some reason.
That's Latin in the sense of character sets; Latin character sets are
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:10:35 +0000, Richard Kettlewell
> <r...@greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) writes:
>>> How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
>>> macron? I'm using Lion.
>>
>> System preferences > Language & Text > Input Sources, add 'US Extended'
>
> An alternative if you'd rather pick them from a list than type them:
>
> Keyboard, Keyboard tab, I tick the "show keyboard and character
> viewers on menu bar".
>
> Thorn and u-with-macron are under "latin" for some reason.
all ultimately derived from Latin script.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_script>
--
Chris
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Richard Kettlewell
Feb 20, 2012, 5:45:05 AM2/20/12
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Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> writes:
> Richard Kettlewell <r...@greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>> real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) writes:
>>> How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
>>> macron? I'm using Lion.
>>
>> System preferences > Language & Text > Input Sources, add 'US Extended'
>
> An alternative if you'd rather pick them from a list than type them:
>
> Keyboard, Keyboard tab, I tick the "show keyboard and character
> viewers on menu bar".
Yes, that's ideal for one-offs but it's rather tedious for characters
> Richard Kettlewell <r...@greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>> real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) writes:
>>> How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
>>> macron? I'm using Lion.
>>
>> System preferences > Language & Text > Input Sources, add 'US Extended'
>
> An alternative if you'd rather pick them from a list than type them:
>
> Keyboard, Keyboard tab, I tick the "show keyboard and character
> viewers on menu bar".
you type often.
> Thorn and u-with-macron are under "latin" for some reason.
between scripts at the relatively coarse level of (say) Latin vs Greek
vs Cyrillic.
--
http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
Bruce Horrocks
Feb 20, 2012, 4:30:43 PM2/20/12
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On 19/02/2012 11:46, D.M. Procida wrote:
> How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
> macron? I'm using Lion.
and if you don't want to set up additional keyboards etc, or memorise
> How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
> macron? I'm using Lion.
Unicode sequences then, depending upon the word processor you are using,
you might be able to set up an autocorrect sequence to replace something
simple to type with thorn etc.
--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey
England
(bruce at scorecrow dot com)
Shane Badham
Feb 21, 2012, 3:19:41 PM2/21/12
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Bruce Horrocks <07....@scorecrow.com> wrote:
> On 19/02/2012 11:46, D.M. Procida wrote:
> > How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
> > macron? I'm using Lion.
>
> and if you don't want to set up additional keyboards etc, or memorise
> Unicode sequences then, depending upon the word processor you are using,
> you might be able to set up an autocorrect sequence to replace something
> simple to type with thorn etc.
There are other solutions. I used to use PopChar ; it still exists as
> On 19/02/2012 11:46, D.M. Procida wrote:
> > How can I easily type characters such as thorn, or a letter u with a
> > macron? I'm using Lion.
>
> and if you don't want to set up additional keyboards etc, or memorise
> Unicode sequences then, depending upon the word processor you are using,
> you might be able to set up an autocorrect sequence to replace something
> simple to type with thorn etc.
PopCharx at: http://www.ergonis.com/products/popcharx/. It costs.
There is also the Mac "Special Characters..." and "Accented Latin" (at
the bottom) gives you "funny d and "funny p". I think one of them is
thorn (d?). You may have to select an appropriate font to get what you
want.
I don't have Lion, so I am not sure if this will work for you.
HTH
--
Thanks and regards, Shane.
"A closed mouth gathers no feet!"
Email: Beware the invalid word! shane at wonk dot demon dot co dot uk
Website: http://www.wonk.demon.co.uk/
Sara
Feb 23, 2012, 3:20:42 AM2/23/12
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In article
<1kfqdbz.ybxq8nznevpfN%real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> Chris Ridd <chri...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > Jaimie Vandenbergh said:
> [snip]
>
> That's why it died out in England: Norman French speaking scribes point
> blank refused to have anything to do with non-Latin characters such as
> eth, thorn, and yogh.
>
> Rowland.
It is one of the characters you get the option to use if you press and
hold the key?
--
There are cats everywhere. Even sitting in the snow.
<1kfqdbz.ybxq8nznevpfN%real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> Chris Ridd <chri...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > Jaimie Vandenbergh said:
> [snip]
>
> > > Thorn and u-with-macron are under "latin" for some reason.
> >
> > That's Latin in the sense of character sets; Latin character sets are
> > all ultimately derived from Latin script.
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_script>
>
> Thorn doesn't come from Latin script. It's derived from Nordic runes.
> > > Thorn and u-with-macron are under "latin" for some reason.
> >
> > That's Latin in the sense of character sets; Latin character sets are
> > all ultimately derived from Latin script.
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_script>
>
>
> That's why it died out in England: Norman French speaking scribes point
> blank refused to have anything to do with non-Latin characters such as
> eth, thorn, and yogh.
>
> Rowland.
It is one of the characters you get the option to use if you press and
hold the key?
--
There are cats everywhere. Even sitting in the snow.
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Paul Grayson
Feb 23, 2012, 5:43:14 PM2/23/12
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Does switching to the Welsh layout help? It uses the same standard keyboard layout as the usual UK one, but the Alt key does have more options.
I'm not in front of a Mac at the moment to check, but I believe there's a macron compose key. I'm not too certain about thorn though, and I can't find a diagram of the layout on-line.
I'm not in front of a Mac at the moment to check, but I believe there's a macron compose key. I'm not too certain about thorn though, and I can't find a diagram of the layout on-line.
Sara
Feb 24, 2012, 2:49:49 AM2/24/12
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In article
<1kfx4tb.68u9cp3jffjuN%real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> >
> > > Chris Ridd <chri...@mac.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jaimie Vandenbergh said:
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > > Thorn and u-with-macron are under "latin" for some reason.
> > > >
> > > > That's Latin in the sense of character sets; Latin character sets are
> > > > all ultimately derived from Latin script.
> > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_script>
> > >
> > > Thorn doesn't come from Latin script. It's derived from Nordic runes.
> > >
> > > That's why it died out in England: Norman French speaking scribes point
> > > blank refused to have anything to do with non-Latin characters such as
> > > eth, thorn, and yogh.
> > >
> > > Rowland.
> >
> > It is one of the characters you get the option to use if you press and
> > hold the key?
>
> Umm. I'm not familiar with that means of selecting a character. Here,
> if I press and hold a key I get the key repeating.
>
I only found out about it a couple of days ago. It does it in Lion (but
not in MTN, oddly enough). No more repeating keys for me :(
And now I've checked and no, it's not an option that I can see.
> The way I get a thorn is to type \th (or \TH for capital thorn) at LaTeX
> after selecting t1 output encoding. I've no idea how to get a thorn the
> Mac way (UK keyboard layout), except by using the "Character Viewer"
> available from the input (keyboard) menu.
>
> If you select the Icelandic keyboard layout, thorn is available by
> pressing the key marked /? on a UK keyboard. Thorn (and eth) are both
> still used in Icelandic.
>
> (what a thorn generally looks like is `like a p or b, except with the
> bowl half-way up the vertical'
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_letter>)
>
I did wonder what it was.
<1kfx4tb.68u9cp3jffjuN%real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> >
> > > Chris Ridd <chri...@mac.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jaimie Vandenbergh said:
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > > Thorn and u-with-macron are under "latin" for some reason.
> > > >
> > > > That's Latin in the sense of character sets; Latin character sets are
> > > > all ultimately derived from Latin script.
> > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_script>
> > >
> > > Thorn doesn't come from Latin script. It's derived from Nordic runes.
> > >
> > > That's why it died out in England: Norman French speaking scribes point
> > > blank refused to have anything to do with non-Latin characters such as
> > > eth, thorn, and yogh.
> > >
> > > Rowland.
> >
> > It is one of the characters you get the option to use if you press and
> > hold the key?
>
> if I press and hold a key I get the key repeating.
>
I only found out about it a couple of days ago. It does it in Lion (but
not in MTN, oddly enough). No more repeating keys for me :(
And now I've checked and no, it's not an option that I can see.
> The way I get a thorn is to type \th (or \TH for capital thorn) at LaTeX
> after selecting t1 output encoding. I've no idea how to get a thorn the
> Mac way (UK keyboard layout), except by using the "Character Viewer"
> available from the input (keyboard) menu.
>
> If you select the Icelandic keyboard layout, thorn is available by
> pressing the key marked /? on a UK keyboard. Thorn (and eth) are both
> still used in Icelandic.
>
> (what a thorn generally looks like is `like a p or b, except with the
> bowl half-way up the vertical'
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_letter>)
>
I did wonder what it was.
Jaimie Vandenbergh
Feb 24, 2012, 3:54:15 AM2/24/12
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:49:49 +0000, Sara
<sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>In article
><1kfx4tb.68u9cp3jffjuN%real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
> real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
>
>> Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > It is one of the characters you get the option to use if you press and
>> > hold the key?
>>
>> Umm. I'm not familiar with that means of selecting a character. Here,
>> if I press and hold a key I get the key repeating.
>>
>I only found out about it a couple of days ago. It does it in Lion (but
>not in MTN, oddly enough). No more repeating keys for me :(
(does in ML for me - are you in an Apple app?)
<sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>In article
><1kfx4tb.68u9cp3jffjuN%real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
> real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
>
>> Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > It is one of the characters you get the option to use if you press and
>> > hold the key?
>>
>> Umm. I'm not familiar with that means of selecting a character. Here,
>> if I press and hold a key I get the key repeating.
>>
>I only found out about it a couple of days ago. It does it in Lion (but
>not in MTN, oddly enough). No more repeating keys for me :(
You can disable the 'offer variations' feature and bring key repeat
back using the terminal command
defaults write -g ApplePressAndHoldEnabled -bool false
(or true to bring it back). Apps only check the state on launch, so
will need to be restarted before they see it.
Cheers - Jaimie
--
"If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put that thing in
your mouth. Particularly if the thing is cats."
- Lemony Snicket, "The Wide Window"
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Sara
Feb 27, 2012, 2:14:15 AM2/27/12
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In article <9ojek7lah3e7537gh...@4ax.com>,
apps, or at least in the two I've tried it in: Mail and TextEdit.
> You can disable the 'offer variations' feature and bring key repeat
> back using the terminal command
>
> defaults write -g ApplePressAndHoldEnabled -bool false
>
> (or true to bring it back). Apps only check the state on launch, so
> will need to be restarted before they see it.
Handy - thanks.
--
There are cats everywhere. At least one is staring at the birdies.
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:49:49 +0000, Sara
> <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >In article
> ><1kfx4tb.68u9cp3jffjuN%real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
> > real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> >
> >> Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> > It is one of the characters you get the option to use if you press and
> >> > hold the key?
> >>
> >> Umm. I'm not familiar with that means of selecting a character. Here,
> >> if I press and hold a key I get the key repeating.
> >>
> >I only found out about it a couple of days ago. It does it in Lion (but
> >not in MTN, oddly enough). No more repeating keys for me :(
>
> (does in ML for me - are you in an Apple app?)
>
MTN = MT Newswatcher, not an Apple app. It certainly does it in Apple
> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:49:49 +0000, Sara
> <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >In article
> ><1kfx4tb.68u9cp3jffjuN%real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
> > real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> >
> >> Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> > It is one of the characters you get the option to use if you press and
> >> > hold the key?
> >>
> >> Umm. I'm not familiar with that means of selecting a character. Here,
> >> if I press and hold a key I get the key repeating.
> >>
> >I only found out about it a couple of days ago. It does it in Lion (but
> >not in MTN, oddly enough). No more repeating keys for me :(
>
> (does in ML for me - are you in an Apple app?)
>
apps, or at least in the two I've tried it in: Mail and TextEdit.
> You can disable the 'offer variations' feature and bring key repeat
> back using the terminal command
>
> defaults write -g ApplePressAndHoldEnabled -bool false
>
> (or true to bring it back). Apps only check the state on launch, so
> will need to be restarted before they see it.
--
There are cats everywhere. At least one is staring at the birdies.
Jaimie Vandenbergh
Feb 27, 2012, 5:28:15 AM2/27/12
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On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:14:15 +0000, Sara
I believe it only applies to apps written against the current Cocoa
toolkit, which would likely be MTN's reason for not doing it.
Cheers - Jaimie
--
"So overall I don't think either you or I got it right, which is
still doing better than average for a Usenet exchange"
-- J Nebus, rasfw
<sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <9ojek7lah3e7537gh...@4ax.com>,
> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:49:49 +0000, Sara
>> <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >In article
>> ><1kfx4tb.68u9cp3jffjuN%real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
>> > real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
>> >
>> >> Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > It is one of the characters you get the option to use if you press and
>> >> > hold the key?
>> >>
>> >> Umm. I'm not familiar with that means of selecting a character. Here,
>> >> if I press and hold a key I get the key repeating.
>> >>
>> >I only found out about it a couple of days ago. It does it in Lion (but
>> >not in MTN, oddly enough). No more repeating keys for me :(
>>
>> (does in ML for me - are you in an Apple app?)
>>
>MTN = MT Newswatcher, not an Apple app. It certainly does it in Apple
>apps, or at least in the two I've tried it in: Mail and TextEdit.
Oops - thought you meant MounTaiN as in Lion.
>In article <9ojek7lah3e7537gh...@4ax.com>,
> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:49:49 +0000, Sara
>> <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >In article
>> ><1kfx4tb.68u9cp3jffjuN%real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
>> > real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
>> >
>> >> Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > It is one of the characters you get the option to use if you press and
>> >> > hold the key?
>> >>
>> >> Umm. I'm not familiar with that means of selecting a character. Here,
>> >> if I press and hold a key I get the key repeating.
>> >>
>> >I only found out about it a couple of days ago. It does it in Lion (but
>> >not in MTN, oddly enough). No more repeating keys for me :(
>>
>> (does in ML for me - are you in an Apple app?)
>>
>MTN = MT Newswatcher, not an Apple app. It certainly does it in Apple
>apps, or at least in the two I've tried it in: Mail and TextEdit.
I believe it only applies to apps written against the current Cocoa
toolkit, which would likely be MTN's reason for not doing it.
Cheers - Jaimie
--
"So overall I don't think either you or I got it right, which is
still doing better than average for a Usenet exchange"
-- J Nebus, rasfw
Sara
Feb 27, 2012, 7:55:27 AM2/27/12
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In article <7immk7pp98krb4oa2...@4ax.com>,
--
Sara
Cats cats cats cats
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:14:15 +0000, Sara
> <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >In article <9ojek7lah3e7537gh...@4ax.com>,
> > Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:49:49 +0000, Sara
> >> <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article
> >> ><1kfx4tb.68u9cp3jffjuN%real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
> >> > real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > It is one of the characters you get the option to use if you press and
> >> >> > hold the key?
> >> >>
> >> >> Umm. I'm not familiar with that means of selecting a character. Here,
> >> >> if I press and hold a key I get the key repeating.
> >> >>
> >> >I only found out about it a couple of days ago. It does it in Lion (but
> >> >not in MTN, oddly enough). No more repeating keys for me :(
> >>
> >> (does in ML for me - are you in an Apple app?)
> >>
> >MTN = MT Newswatcher, not an Apple app. It certainly does it in Apple
> >apps, or at least in the two I've tried it in: Mail and TextEdit.
>
> Oops - thought you meant MounTaiN as in Lion.
OIC - no, I'm not that down with the cool kids.
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:14:15 +0000, Sara
> <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >In article <9ojek7lah3e7537gh...@4ax.com>,
> > Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:49:49 +0000, Sara
> >> <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article
> >> ><1kfx4tb.68u9cp3jffjuN%real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
> >> > real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > It is one of the characters you get the option to use if you press and
> >> >> > hold the key?
> >> >>
> >> >> Umm. I'm not familiar with that means of selecting a character. Here,
> >> >> if I press and hold a key I get the key repeating.
> >> >>
> >> >I only found out about it a couple of days ago. It does it in Lion (but
> >> >not in MTN, oddly enough). No more repeating keys for me :(
> >>
> >> (does in ML for me - are you in an Apple app?)
> >>
> >MTN = MT Newswatcher, not an Apple app. It certainly does it in Apple
> >apps, or at least in the two I've tried it in: Mail and TextEdit.
>
> Oops - thought you meant MounTaiN as in Lion.
>
> I believe it only applies to apps written against the current Cocoa
> toolkit, which would likely be MTN's reason for not doing it.
>
Sounds reasonable.
> I believe it only applies to apps written against the current Cocoa
> toolkit, which would likely be MTN's reason for not doing it.
>
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Feb 27, 2012, 11:43:01 AM2/27/12
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In article
<1kg4ob2.cmu6jregaq4gN%real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>
> > <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>
I think it arrived with 10.7
> Seems rather more use than anything else happening.
>
> Rowland.
<1kg4ob2.cmu6jregaq4gN%real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>
> > <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > It is one of the characters you get the option to use if you press
> > >> >> > and
> > >> >> > hold the key?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Umm. I'm not familiar with that means of selecting a character.
> > >> >> Here,
> > >> >> if I press and hold a key I get the key repeating.
> > >> >>
> > >> >I only found out about it a couple of days ago. It does it in Lion (but
> > >> >not in MTN, oddly enough). No more repeating keys for me :(
> > >>
> > >> (does in ML for me - are you in an Apple app?)
> > >>
> > >MTN = MT Newswatcher, not an Apple app. It certainly does it in Apple
> > >apps, or at least in the two I've tried it in: Mail and TextEdit.
> >
> > Oops - thought you meant MounTaiN as in Lion.
> >
> > I believe it only applies to apps written against the current Cocoa
> > toolkit, which would likely be MTN's reason for not doing it.
>
> Press-and-hold a key in Textedit.app (10.6.8) repeats the key.
> > >> <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > It is one of the characters you get the option to use if you press
> > >> >> > and
> > >> >> > hold the key?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Umm. I'm not familiar with that means of selecting a character.
> > >> >> Here,
> > >> >> if I press and hold a key I get the key repeating.
> > >> >>
> > >> >I only found out about it a couple of days ago. It does it in Lion (but
> > >> >not in MTN, oddly enough). No more repeating keys for me :(
> > >>
> > >> (does in ML for me - are you in an Apple app?)
> > >>
> > >MTN = MT Newswatcher, not an Apple app. It certainly does it in Apple
> > >apps, or at least in the two I've tried it in: Mail and TextEdit.
> >
> > Oops - thought you meant MounTaiN as in Lion.
> >
> > I believe it only applies to apps written against the current Cocoa
> > toolkit, which would likely be MTN's reason for not doing it.
>
>
I think it arrived with 10.7
> Seems rather more use than anything else happening.
>
> Rowland.
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Feb 27, 2012, 1:17:11 PM2/27/12
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Rowland McDonnell <real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> > > Press-and-hold a key in Textedit.app (10.6.8) repeats the key.
> > >
> > I think it arrived with 10.7
>
> <plays with 10.7 MacBook>
> > > Press-and-hold a key in Textedit.app (10.6.8) repeats the key.
> > >
> > I think it arrived with 10.7
>
>
> Oh yes, so it did.
>
> Glad to see that keys like space and = and - still auto-repeat, though.
It's also app-specific withing 10.7 - hold a key down in 10.7's TextEdit
and you get the popup, do the same in Terminal.app and it repeats.
Jim
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