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jbrennand
Mar 18, 2022, 6:00:11 PM3/18/22
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In my thread below you can read that I have put a new SSD HD into my
daughters 2012 MBP which is currently running High Sierra 10.13.6.
She had an old MS Office on there which of course is now not working as
it is wanting her to update to 365 which she is never going to do.
I plan to move her to Libre Office because I believe you now have to pay
for iWork. I use it on my new MB Air and I like it but dont want to pay
for her to use it as she does very little with it other than read/edit docs.
However, I have just discovered my old iWork'08 family install disc
(with Key). Before trying it out, do you think this will install and
run Pages/Numbers/Keynote on her system ok ? Also, would it then allow
a free "upgrade" through the Apple Store - or has that little loophole
been closed down now?
Thanks for any thoughts.
JohnB
daughters 2012 MBP which is currently running High Sierra 10.13.6.
She had an old MS Office on there which of course is now not working as
it is wanting her to update to 365 which she is never going to do.
I plan to move her to Libre Office because I believe you now have to pay
for iWork. I use it on my new MB Air and I like it but dont want to pay
for her to use it as she does very little with it other than read/edit docs.
However, I have just discovered my old iWork'08 family install disc
(with Key). Before trying it out, do you think this will install and
run Pages/Numbers/Keynote on her system ok ? Also, would it then allow
a free "upgrade" through the Apple Store - or has that little loophole
been closed down now?
Thanks for any thoughts.
JohnB
David Kennedy
Mar 18, 2022, 6:36:50 PM3/18/22
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distant past but, AFAIK it's no longer the case.
Pages is a free download - you can check on the app store - and I suspect that
numbers is also.
You should probably forget the iwork disc and start with the latest versions
the machine will take.
jbrennand
Mar 18, 2022, 6:52:28 PM3/18/22
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I will take a peek on the App store tomorrow when I fire her MBP up
again.... I am taking a well deserved break now with a glass of chilled
Chablis and the Irish rock night on BBC2 :-)
JohnB
Wolffan
Mar 18, 2022, 10:13:17 PM3/18/22
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On 2022 Mar 18, jbrennand wrote
(in article <t12vd9$hdo$1...@dont-email.me>):
> In my thread below you can read that I have put a new SSD HD into my
> daughters 2012 MBP which is currently running High Sierra 10.13.6.
>
> She had an old MS Office on there which of course is now not working as
> it is wanting her to update to 365 which she is never going to do.
>
> I plan to move her to Libre Office because I believe you now have to pay
> for iWork.
no, you don’t. When Keynote first came out, Apple charged for it. Apple
also charged for Pages. iWork cost what Keynote had cost by itself... and
then it was free. It’s been free since 2013.
version which works, sort of, on Windows, and for free.
(in article <t12vd9$hdo$1...@dont-email.me>):
> In my thread below you can read that I have put a new SSD HD into my
> daughters 2012 MBP which is currently running High Sierra 10.13.6.
>
> She had an old MS Office on there which of course is now not working as
> it is wanting her to update to 365 which she is never going to do.
>
> I plan to move her to Libre Office because I believe you now have to pay
> for iWork.
also charged for Pages. iWork cost what Keynote had cost by itself... and
then it was free. It’s been free since 2013.
> I use it on my new MB Air and I like it but dont want to pay
> for her to use it as she does very little with it other than read/edit docs.
go to the Apple Store. iWork is available as individual downloads.
> for her to use it as she does very little with it other than read/edit docs.
>
>
> However, I have just discovered my old iWork'08 family install disc
> (with Key). Before trying it out, do you think this will install and
> run Pages/Numbers/Keynote on her system ok ?
i suspect that it’s dead.
>
> However, I have just discovered my old iWork'08 family install disc
> (with Key). Before trying it out, do you think this will install and
> run Pages/Numbers/Keynote on her system ok ?
> Also, would it then allow
> a free "upgrade" through the Apple Store - or has that little loophole
> been closed down now?
it’s just free. it’s free on Macs, free on iOS, it even has a web app
> a free "upgrade" through the Apple Store - or has that little loophole
> been closed down now?
version which works, sort of, on Windows, and for free.
Graeme Wall
Mar 19, 2022, 4:20:45 AM3/19/22
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On 18/03/2022 22:36, David Kennedy wrote:
>
> You should probably forget the iwork disc and start with the latest
> versions the machine will take.
Graeme Wall
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Graeme Wall
Mar 19, 2022, 4:21:43 AM3/19/22
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jbrennand
Mar 19, 2022, 3:02:19 PM3/19/22
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On 18/03/2022 22:00, jbrennand wrote:
Also, would it then allow
> a free "upgrade" through the Apple Store - or has that little loophole
> been closed down now?
>
> Thanks for any thoughts.
>
> JohnB
Thanks for all your input chaps. Good to know they are free on the App
> a free "upgrade" through the Apple Store - or has that little loophole
> been closed down now?
>
> Thanks for any thoughts.
>
> JohnB
store. As she wasnt here today and I dont have access to her App store
account, I just installed Libre Office. Have to say it looks a lot
better than it did when I tried it yonks ago.
It now opens all her Docs/xcl/ppt documents and they all seem to
read/edit fine.
Are there any gotcha's I need to be aware of ?
I will leave her to test it out and if she likes it then its job done.
If not I will point her in the direction of the App store.
Cheers JohnB
David Kennedy
Mar 19, 2022, 5:00:00 PM3/19/22
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On 19/03/2022 19:02, jbrennand wrote:
> On 18/03/2022 22:00, jbrennand wrote:
> Also, would it then allow
>> a free "upgrade" through the Apple Store - or has that little loophole been
>> closed down now?
>>
>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>>
>> JohnB
>
> Thanks for all your input chaps. Good to know they are free on the App
> store. As she wasnt here today and I dont have access to her App store
> account, I just installed Libre Office. Have to say it looks a lot better
> than it did when I tried it yonks ago.
>
> It now opens all her Docs/xcl/ppt documents and they all seem to read/edit fine.
>
> Are there any gotcha's I need to be aware of ?
Only that Pages will open most MS files and save in that format too.
> On 18/03/2022 22:00, jbrennand wrote:
> Also, would it then allow
>> a free "upgrade" through the Apple Store - or has that little loophole been
>> closed down now?
>>
>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>>
>> JohnB
>
> Thanks for all your input chaps. Good to know they are free on the App
> store. As she wasnt here today and I dont have access to her App store
> account, I just installed Libre Office. Have to say it looks a lot better
> than it did when I tried it yonks ago.
>
> It now opens all her Docs/xcl/ppt documents and they all seem to read/edit fine.
>
> Are there any gotcha's I need to be aware of ?
jbrennand
Mar 27, 2022, 2:42:39 PM3/27/22
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On 19/03/2022 10:16, Alan B wrote:
>
> Pages, Numbers and Keynote are all free on macOS, iOS and iPadOS and have
> online capabilities via iCloud on a web browser.
If that's correct, how does she actually get them ?
She goes to the App store, finds them, tries to download and gets a no
go message something like.... "this is not compatible for your operating
system"... and it wont download.
She is still on High Sierra and has never had iWork on it - she was all
M$Office until being 365'd
Thoughts ?
JohnB
>
> Pages, Numbers and Keynote are all free on macOS, iOS and iPadOS and have
> online capabilities via iCloud on a web browser.
If that's correct, how does she actually get them ?
She goes to the App store, finds them, tries to download and gets a no
go message something like.... "this is not compatible for your operating
system"... and it wont download.
She is still on High Sierra and has never had iWork on it - she was all
M$Office until being 365'd
Thoughts ?
JohnB
Mark
Mar 27, 2022, 3:11:24 PM3/27/22
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On 2022-03-27 18:57:00 +0000, Alan B
<alanrich...@nospamgmail.com.here> said:
> The versions in the App Store will be the latest versions which are no
> longer compatible with High Sierra. You are not alone with this problem so
> may be the online iCloud versions are the answer or a third party app such
> as LibreOffice as mentioned before.
>
> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250781090>
You could try this...
<https://www.cultofmac.com/306118/download-apples-iwork-apps-older-macs-free/>
Or
you can purchase the full iWork '09 DVD, but remember the '09 -> later
version issues: I forget the details, but an older (e.g '09) doc opened
in more recent Pages version saves it as that newer version, and can't
then be re-opened in '09. Or something like that...)
--
Cheers ... Mark
<alanrich...@nospamgmail.com.here> said:
> longer compatible with High Sierra. You are not alone with this problem so
> may be the online iCloud versions are the answer or a third party app such
> as LibreOffice as mentioned before.
>
> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250781090>
You could try this...
<https://www.cultofmac.com/306118/download-apples-iwork-apps-older-macs-free/>
Or
you can purchase the full iWork '09 DVD, but remember the '09 -> later
version issues: I forget the details, but an older (e.g '09) doc opened
in more recent Pages version saves it as that newer version, and can't
then be re-opened in '09. Or something like that...)
--
Cheers ... Mark
jbrennand
Mar 27, 2022, 3:17:34 PM3/27/22
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On 27/03/2022 19:57, Alan B wrote:
Mac-users having the same issue all p'd off by finding that Apple in its
infinite wisdom seems to be actively precluding users of older
kit/software from accessing the Apple iWork software. A ruse to get
people to buy updated equipment is the consensus view. Steve... more
than ever.. wish you were still here with us :-(
Cheers John
> The versions in the App Store will be the latest versions which are no
> longer compatible with High Sierra. You are not alone with this problem so
> may be the online iCloud versions are the answer or a third party app such
> as LibreOffice as mentioned before.
>
> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250781090>
>
Thanks Alan. Yes a little googling has found many many disgruntled
> longer compatible with High Sierra. You are not alone with this problem so
> may be the online iCloud versions are the answer or a third party app such
> as LibreOffice as mentioned before.
>
> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250781090>
>
Mac-users having the same issue all p'd off by finding that Apple in its
infinite wisdom seems to be actively precluding users of older
kit/software from accessing the Apple iWork software. A ruse to get
people to buy updated equipment is the consensus view. Steve... more
than ever.. wish you were still here with us :-(
Cheers John
jbrennand
Mar 27, 2022, 3:23:43 PM3/27/22
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I saw that link but didnt progress because of the security warning for
downloading it - but as I said in the first post I still have my old
iWork'08 family install disc (with Key)- I may give that a go when she
is next here with the MBP.
John
jbrennand
Mar 27, 2022, 3:25:40 PM3/27/22
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On 27/03/2022 20:11, Mark wrote:
> On 2022-03-27 18:57:00 +0000, Alan B
I forget the details, but an older (e.g '09) doc opened
> in more recent Pages version saves it as that newer version, and can't
> then be re-opened in '09. Or something like that...)
.... somehow that doesn't surprise me with Apple these days...
> in more recent Pages version saves it as that newer version, and can't
> then be re-opened in '09. Or something like that...)
JohnB
Mark
Mar 27, 2022, 3:38:41 PM3/27/22
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incompatability between '09 & later versions (a shame as the later
versions of Pages aren't a patch on '09)
--
Cheers ... Mark
jbrennand
Apr 3, 2022, 11:27:17 AM4/3/22
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On 18/03/2022 22:00, jbrennand wrote:
The iWork8 Disc installed fine I could update to the latest version of
that and it opened all the Office documents.
However, I also went to the App store and the latest versions were not
available from her account in "Purchased" items - however - our accounts
are linked and I could see them in my "Purchased" list from 2015. They
all downloaded and work fine on High Sierra.
Thanks for your inputs.
JohnB
Martin S Taylor
Apr 5, 2022, 6:06:32 AM4/5/22
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On Mar 19, 2022, Graeme Wall wrote
(in article <t143ql$e17$6...@dont-email.me>):
> > again.... I am taking a well deserved break now with a glass of chilled
> > Chablis and the Irish rock night on BBC2 :-)
>
> Does it have Ceilidh written all the way through?
:-)
(in article <t143ql$e17$6...@dont-email.me>):
> > again.... I am taking a well deserved break now with a glass of chilled
> > Chablis and the Irish rock night on BBC2 :-)
>
> Does it have Ceilidh written all the way through?
Martin S Taylor
Apr 5, 2022, 6:08:21 AM4/5/22
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On Mar 27, 2022, Mark wrote
(in article <t1qcso$12gq$1...@gioia.aioe.org>):
> I forget the details, but an older (e.g '09) doc opened
> in more recent Pages version saves it as that newer version, and can't
> then be re-opened in '09. Or something like that...)
The option to Export the file in Pages '09 format is still there in all newer
versions.
MST
(in article <t1qcso$12gq$1...@gioia.aioe.org>):
> I forget the details, but an older (e.g '09) doc opened
> in more recent Pages version saves it as that newer version, and can't
> then be re-opened in '09. Or something like that...)
versions.
MST
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