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Bella Jones

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Aug 11, 2003, 4:47:36 PM8/11/03
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[OS 9.2.2 / iMac 350]

I don't have a huge grudge against IE, but now it's doing that 'disappearing
submenus' thing. I've tried trashing prefs in different combinations, but
the problem's got worse. I wonder if the 'Explorer control' prefs should go
too? I just can't face digging out all the passwords of sites I've been
using for ages and putting them in again.

Anyway, I've got Mozilla 1.0.1 which I downloaded last year. It's a bit
slow. I've just got 1.2.1 but have not installed it yet.

I just wondered - should I trash the first Mozilla before installing the new
one, and, if anyone's using it, how does the new one run?

And does it do the disappearing menus thing as well?

Thanks

Bella

Christopher Mahon

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Aug 11, 2003, 5:45:58 PM8/11/03
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In article <BB5DBF77.16B7D%bella...@yahoo.co.uk>,
Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Google for Wamcom. This is Mozilla 1.3.1 for OS 9.

Then install the Lo-fi theme.

Nice.

Bella Jones

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Aug 12, 2003, 3:00:17 AM8/12/03
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in article chrismahon-F4FC2...@usenet.plus.net, Christopher
Mahon at chrismahon@m_nospam_ac.com wrote on 11/8/03 10:45 pm:

> In article <BB5DBF77.16B7D%bella...@yahoo.co.uk>,
> Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> [OS 9.2.2 / iMac 350]
>>

[snip sick of IE, trying Mozilla properly]


>>
>> Bella
>>
>
> Google for Wamcom. This is Mozilla 1.3.1 for OS 9.
>
> Then install the Lo-fi theme.
>
> Nice.

W00t! I am now part of the Mozilla testing community!

Thanks for this!

And it even nicely opened with all my new bookmarks that I put in the old
mozilla! <easily pleased>

And I can read news on there too. :-)

Just one thing - the theme gives me a choice of classic or modern. Is lo-fi
something different?

bella

Christopher Mahon

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Aug 13, 2003, 1:49:53 AM8/13/03
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In article <BB5E4F11.16B9E%bella...@yahoo.co.uk>,
Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> W00t! I am now part of the Mozilla testing community!
>
> Thanks for this!
>
> And it even nicely opened with all my new bookmarks that I put in the old
> mozilla! <easily pleased>
>
> And I can read news on there too. :-)
>
> Just one thing - the theme gives me a choice of classic or modern. Is lo-fi
> something different?
>
> bella

Yes, basically, because my screen only shows thousands of colour at
800x600, both installed themes looked rubbish and too big.

You can browse and install lots of themes here:

http://themes.mozdev.org/themes/1.html

My favourite was Lo-Fi Classic, because it is wonderfully small, fast
and functional.

Bella Jones

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Aug 13, 2003, 2:47:05 AM8/13/03
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in article chrismahon-C3D71...@usenet.plus.net, Christopher
Mahon at chrismahon@m_nospam_ac.com wrote on 13/8/03 6:49 am:

Mine's 'millions of colours' so it looks OK, but maybe the lo-fi one will
still run faster?

Just one thing - I played with it yesterday and Explorer does *not* like
being open at the same time! It played up immediately, and Mozilla did that
thing where you click on a button (in this case the salon.com login) and
nothing happened, and I got 'javascript(login)' in the lower bar, as you do
when a button doesn't work.

Is there a cure for this, or a preference I need to change?

Thanks.

Tim Streater

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Aug 13, 2003, 8:19:51 AM8/13/03
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In article <BB5DBF77.16B7D%bella...@yahoo.co.uk>,
Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> [OS 9.2.2 / iMac 350]
>
> I don't have a huge grudge against IE, but now it's doing that 'disappearing
> submenus' thing. I've tried trashing prefs in different combinations, but
> the problem's got worse. I wonder if the 'Explorer control' prefs should go
> too? I just can't face digging out all the passwords of sites I've been
> using for ages and putting them in again.
>
> Anyway, I've got Mozilla 1.0.1 which I downloaded last year. It's a bit
> slow. I've just got 1.2.1 but have not installed it yet.

I tried the most recent Mozilla and Netscape I could find (1.3.1 or so
and 6.x) on 9 and they were both dog-slow, so I went back to IE.

Actually using Netscape 7.1 on XP at work, it seems very nice, but even
on a 1GHz Fujitsu laptop it's very slow. It takes so long to page in
first thing in the morning, it must have been paged out to the moon on a
9.6kbps line.

--

Tim

David Kennedy

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Aug 13, 2003, 8:28:55 AM8/13/03
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NS 7.02 is considerably better than 6 and seems to be the latest version
that works on 9.2 although I had an upgrade notice the other day
advising me of 7.1 I couldn't find a link for an OS9 version though on
the site.

--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

Peter Ceresole

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Aug 13, 2003, 11:33:31 AM8/13/03
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In article <3F3A2F07...@no.spam.today.thanks.invalid>,
David Kennedy <david....@no.spam.today.thanks.invalid> wrote:

>NS 7.02 is considerably better than 6 and seems to be the latest version
>that works on 9.2 although I had an upgrade notice the other day
>advising me of 7.1 I couldn't find a link for an OS9 version though on
>the site.

Hmmmm...

Anne is still using IE 5.0 on a 300MHz TonkaBook with OS 9.0.4; she is
booking airline tickets and banking online with the Nationwide and the
Natwest, and it's working absolutely fine. I don't know what these
'disappearing submenus' are, because they've never happened here.

--
Peter

Bella Jones

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Aug 18, 2003, 3:57:59 AM8/18/03
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in article BB6018DB9...@192.168.0.2, Peter Ceresole at
pe...@cara.demon.co.uk wrote on 13/8/03 4:33 pm:

This is when you click on, say, favorites, and the menu comes down, and
either the little arrow that says there's a submenu doesn't work, or isn't
there at all. Its a corrupted preference thing.

Now, if I could only find out where to make mozilla my default browser
without going via Parv, and find why some buttons don't click in mozilla
either, I'll be home and dry. Bet I end up sticking with IE... :-)

WWH, the Office clipboard is great. Don't need Keyquencer. <heh>

Peter Ceresole

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Aug 18, 2003, 5:07:04 AM8/18/03
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In article <BB664597.16EAC%bella...@yahoo.co.uk>,
Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>This is when you click on, say, favorites, and the menu comes down, and
>either the little arrow that says there's a submenu doesn't work, or isn't
>there at all. Its a corrupted preference thing.

Okay. That's never happened on Anne's machine. Every now and again her IE
crashes; it's the only thing that does, and the only reason for restarts,
maybe one a fortnight, so IE 5.0 is certainly unstable, but it's highly
useable.

>WWH, the Office clipboard is great. Don't need Keyquencer. <heh>

Que?

I use KeyQuencer/Keyboard Maestro for all kinds of things that no clipboard
I know could handle, like launching sequences of actions and/or frequently
used apps, but you mean the Office clipboard does all you want to do?

And while we're still here, I presume your new graphics board is still
working happily?

--
Peter

Bella Jones

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Aug 18, 2003, 5:17:49 AM8/18/03
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in article BB6655C89...@192.168.0.2, Peter Ceresole at
pe...@cara.demon.co.uk wrote on 18/8/03 10:07 am:

>> WWH, the Office clipboard is great. Don't need Keyquencer. <heh>
>
> Que?

Sorry - I have the KQ icon on my desktop, and I associate it with you
because you were its biggest champion. :-)

> I use KeyQuencer/Keyboard Maestro for all kinds of things that no clipboard
> I know could handle, like launching sequences of actions and/or frequently
> used apps, but you mean the Office clipboard does all you want to do?

Yes. <hiss>

> And while we're still here, I presume your new graphics board is still
> working happily?

Seems to be, thanks. It just had four days off while I was away, and nothing
has gone boom, or flashed psychedelically.

Peter Ceresole

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Aug 18, 2003, 5:34:34 AM8/18/03
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In article <BB66584D.16EB7%bella...@yahoo.co.uk>,
Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Sorry - I have the KQ icon on my desktop, and I associate it with you
>because you were its biggest champion. :-)

Oh yes, every day several tiems a day...

Interesting- a KQ icon on the desktop?

You know that by default if you go Opt-Shift-K the Keyquencer CP springs
up? No need for an icon. That's the beauty of KQ. If I could play an
irritating jingle here, I would...

--
Peter

Bella Jones

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Aug 18, 2003, 6:21:30 AM8/18/03
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in article BB665C3A9...@192.168.0.2, Peter Ceresole at
pe...@cara.demon.co.uk wrote on 18/8/03 10:34 am:

> In article <BB66584D.16EB7%bella...@yahoo.co.uk>,
> Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Sorry - I have the KQ icon on my desktop, and I associate it with you
>> because you were its biggest champion. :-)
>
> Oh yes, every day several tiems a day...
>
> Interesting- a KQ icon on the desktop?
>
> You know that by default if you go Opt-Shift-K the Keyquencer CP springs
> up? No need for an icon. That's the beauty of KQ.

I like desktop icons. It means I can see them without thinking. But then I'm
not even using KQ...

>If I could play an
> irritating jingle here, I would...

QT movie/dot whatever file please, with you on the Hammond organ.

Peter Ceresole

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Aug 18, 2003, 7:41:25 AM8/18/03
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In article <BB666739.16EC8%bella...@yahoo.co.uk>,
Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>>If I could play an
>> irritating jingle here, I would...
>
>QT movie/dot whatever file please, with you on the Hammond organ.

Nope. As you bring it up, pictures are absolutely fine (want a few JPEGs?)
but personalised sound files are against my religion.

--
Peter

Peter Ceresole

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Aug 18, 2003, 7:41:24 AM8/18/03
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In article <rpg14-9F5E5A....@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>,

"Richard P. Grant" <rp...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

>> >Sorry - I have the KQ icon on my desktop, and I associate it with you
>> >because you were its biggest champion. :-)
>>
>> Oh yes, every day several tiems a day...
>

>Rowland and LaTeX . . .

I hope Rowland is better than I fear he might be. Does anybody have any
news?

--
Peter

PeterD

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Aug 18, 2003, 9:25:20 AM8/18/03
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Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> >If I could play an
> > irritating jingle here, I would...
>
> QT movie/dot whatever file please, with you on the Hammond organ.

<http://www.pd.dsl.pipex.com/power.mov>

There is a special prize for anyone who can suffer through the entire
5:27 without fast forwarding, muting the sound, self-immolation or
having your brains melt and leak out your nose.

There are some particularly fine moments, especially around 1:20 where
it really starts rockin, and again between 3:30-3:43 when aural bleeding
usually starts.

4:15 has some quite beautiful tympany.

Enjoy.

--
Pd

PeterD

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Aug 18, 2003, 9:56:14 AM8/18/03
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Sara Kirk <sara...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <1fzw4qh.1pjji4319ygxrjN%pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid>, PeterD

> OMG

G? I think it's probably the Work of the Devil. I found it on some
Japanese schoolboy's site, back in the days when I was actively involved
in the electronic music scene. His idea of music and mine are slightly
divergent. Full marks for, umm, perseverance I guess.

--
Pd

Bella Jones

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Aug 18, 2003, 10:35:47 AM8/18/03
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in article 1fzw4qh.1pjji4319ygxrjN%pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid, PeterD at
pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid wrote on 18/8/03 2:25 pm:

Fabulous! Prize please - I actually turned it up, when I was in the other
room.

A lovely soundtrack to a short film, maybe someone making a forlorn attempt
at graffiti, or a tour of a broken fridge, incl rusting magnets.

Peter Ceresole

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Aug 18, 2003, 11:10:08 AM8/18/03
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In article <1fzw4qh.1pjji4319ygxrjN%pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid>,
pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid (PeterD) wrote:

><http://www.pd.dsl.pipex.com/power.mov>

Wonderful.

--
Peter

smokey

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Aug 18, 2003, 11:14:12 AM8/18/03
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"PeterD" <pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid> wrote in message
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> Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > >If I could play an
>
> 4:15 has some quite beautiful tympany.
/\/\/\/\/\/\
Deliberate pun or just a slip of the keyboard?

Smokeyvolvo: dtawson at online bah dot no
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PeterD

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Aug 18, 2003, 11:37:41 AM8/18/03
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smokey <sp...@online.no> wrote:

> "PeterD" <pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid> wrote in message
> news:1fzw4qh.1pjji4319ygxrjN%pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid...
> > Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > >If I could play an
> >
> > 4:15 has some quite beautiful tympany.
> /\/\/\/\/\/\
> Deliberate pun or just a slip of the keyboard?

I guess it's supposed to be a kettledrum roll,
but "flatulent distension of the belly" seems apropos.

--
Pd

Flavio Matani

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Aug 18, 2003, 4:09:45 PM8/18/03
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Peter Ceresole <pe...@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:


but you did mention jingle....

--
flavio matani
guitar tuition and performing
homepage.mac.com/flavio_matani/guitar/

Peter Ceresole

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Aug 18, 2003, 6:05:24 PM8/18/03
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In article <1fzwlau.1qlz2z217rbwp5N%flavio_matani...@mac.com>,
flavio_matani...@mac.com (Flavio Matani) wrote:

>but you did mention jingle....

Jingle jangle, turn that mangle.

--
Peter

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