Run iPhoto, iTunes & Aperture on Catalina to Ventura

[Mark]

Yet again the creeping thought that I should update from Mojave to
Catalina (juat to keep as 'up-to-date' as I can) keeps intruding...

Just been digging around re iTunes->Music.app & what's different, I
came across <https://github.com/cormiertyshawn895/Retroactive> Allows
you to run iPhoto, iTunes & Aperture on Catalina up to Ventura (also
Final Cut Pro 7, Logic Pro 9, and iWork ’09 on macOS Mojave or macOS
High Sierra - should you wish to do so).
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Cheers ... Mark

[Sn!pe]

Alan B <alanrich...@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> Not the same but it would be nice if 32 bit apps such as MacSOUP could be
> made to run on Catalina onwards without having to resort to an all singing
> and dancing VM.

Seconded. At present I screenshare into a Mojave legacy 'puter
just for MacSOUP, it's that important to me.

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~ Slava Ukraini ~

[Sn!pe]

Alan B <alanrich...@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> I use a Mojave VM to run it. It's a 30GB+ bundle so a bit of an
> overkill!

When I had a 'Doze reason to run Parallels it was easy enough
to run a Mojave VM on it too. Now that my 'Doze case has died
I think I may ditch Parallels as being too costly. Besides,
I don't like subscription software.

[Mark]

On 2022-11-07 13:58:01 +0000, alanrich...@gmail.com.invalid (Alan
B) said:

> I use a Mojave VM to run it. It's a 30GB+ bundle so a bit of an
> overkill!

Just checked - Unison is 32bit. Buggerit.
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Cheers ... Mark

[Mark]

On 2022-11-07 19:06:48 +0000, Alan B
<alanrich...@gmail.com.invalid> said:

> I thought 2.2 was 64 bit?
>
> <https://panic.com/blog/the-future-of-unison/>

Ahhhhh... yes! Now, let's see... I know I tried it when it came out,
but there was a problem with it, which is why I went back to the old
version (1.8). I've just opened it now and at first glance it seems ok.
I'll have a play later in the week. Thanks for the reminder!
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Cheers ... Mark

[Sn!pe]

> I'm using the free version of VMware Fusion Player on my Intel Mac. You
> just need to register first. It calls itself "Player" but still allows
> you to create VMs.
>
> <https://customerconnect.vmware.com/evalcenter?p=fusion-player-personal>

Thanks, Alan.

I wonder if it runs OK on Apple Silicon; I'm using a MBP M1X here.
I suppose there's one way to find out...

[nospam]

In article <1q12x4k.ni7c7f3hfgasN%snip...@gmail.com>, Sn!pe

<snip...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > <https://customerconnect.vmware.com/evalcenter?p=fusion-player-personal>
>
> Thanks, Alan.
>
> I wonder if it runs OK on Apple Silicon; I'm using a MBP M1X here.
> I suppose there's one way to find out...

for m*, get this:
<https://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2022/07/just-released-vmware-fusion-
22h2-tech-preview.html>

[Sn!pe]

Alan B <alanrich...@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> Yes and also UTM is free.
>
> <https://mac.getutm.app>
>
> I think you may have difficulty building and running a Mojave VM on a M*
> Mac!

Thank you, both. It will be an interesting project for when I have
some spare time; meanwhile I still have my legacy Mojave m/c.

[Mark]

On 2022-11-08 13:22:38 +0000, Alan B
<alanrich...@gmail.com.invalid> said:

> Unison 2.2 may work on Silicon Macs via Rosetta 2 - posting this
> followup using it!

That's cool! Good to know :)
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Cheers ... Mark

[Mark]

On 2022-11-09 08:56:04 +0000, Alan B
<alanrich...@gmail.com.invalid> said:

> On 8 Nov 2022 at 19:13:03 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrich...@gmail.com.invalid>

>> Mmmmmm. After running it for a while 2.2 seems a bit unstable. A couple of
>> crashes, odd window behaviour etc. It’s no surprise as the app has not been
>> updated for years. Maybe it will run better on earlier macOS versions
>> including Mojave. When I’ve time I’ll try it on my Intel Mac running
>> Monterey plus Mojave on a VM.
>
> I thought I'd better check out Unison 2.2 (which is 64 bit compatible) as
> promised sooner rather than later before I raise your expectations! As I
> hinted earlier it has problems reading newsgroups posts when running in
> Monterey and Ventura. The sub window which lists out thread messages usually
> does not appear when you select/click on a thread in the main messages window.
> In Ventura the app then crashes frequently. If you are able to properly
> display a post, it seems you can create and post a followup. I tried the app
> next on my Mojave VM created using the free version of VMware Fusion and it
> seemed to work OK! I don't have access to Catalina or Big Sur systems though.
> Incidentally my Mojave VM takes up just over 30GB currently. So you might want
> to look at another newsgroup client if you upgrade from Mojave but you could
> create a VM which can still be used to run Unison (32 or 64 bit versions) plus
> any other favourite 32 bit apps.

Thanks for the info - much appreciated. Are you using Usenapp also?
How's it looking..?

I used to use Hogwasher as well... It does say it still works on
Catalina, even though it looks like it's abandonware. Trouble is, even
though I have a serial number it won't work. I did email the dev a
couple of years ago but no reply.

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Cheers ... Mark

[Mark]

On 9 Nov 2022, Alan B wrote
(in article<tkg4uk$7a9u$1...@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>):

> Hogwasher 5.24 seems to work OK even in Ventura. When I had a problem with
> it a while ago, they came back to me almost immediately. I use several
> clients including Usenapp which works fine apart from not supporting the
> display of X-Faces.

How recently did you contact Asar? Three years ago I got a bounce back from
their serial support email (’Message not delivered/No such person’.)
I’ve just used their feedback contact form. Let’s see.

(I’m using the 5.24 trial version for this).

[Mark]

On 9 Nov 2022, Alan B wrote

(in article<tkg71k$7gl7$1...@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>):

> On 2022-11-09, Mark<captai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > How recently did you contact Asar? Three years ago I got a bounce back from
> > their serial support email (’Message not delivered/No such person’.)
> > I’ve just used their feedback contact form. Let’s see.
> >
> > (I’m using the 5.24 trial version for this).
>

> It must have been about 3 years ago as I've kept a copy of a Hog 5.21
> crash report dated 13/10/2019. Unfortunately I haven't got a copy
> of the response I got from Asar. I think I emailed them rather than
> filling in a form - maybe ser...@asar.com?

Yes, that’s the email address I got the bounce back from. My licence is
from 2006 though! Maybe if it’s no longer supported it'll continue working
after the trial? Who knows!

Cheers ... Mark

[Ian McCall]

On 9 Nov 2022, Mark wrote
(in article <tkg4h4$2i5$1...@gioia.aioe.org>):

> I used to use Hogwasher as well... It does say it still works on
> Catalina, even though it looks like it's abandonware. Trouble is, even
> though I have a serial number it won't work. I did email the dev a
> couple of years ago but no reply.

Am I reading this right - Hogwasher as abandonware? I’m using it right now
(on Ventura), bought from Mac App Store so no serial number involved. Are you
saying you’ve not had responses from the devs recently?

Thanks,
Ian

[Ian McCall]

On 9 Nov 2022, Alan B wrote

(in article<tkgkmd$8t18$1...@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>):

> I downloaded my copy directly from Asar some years ago so paid the
> registration fee directly to them and got a reg. key. Presumably the reg.
> key I was given won't work if the app is downloaded from the App Store?

Correct, separate purchasing paths. I’ve never had to enter a serial
number.

Cheers,
Ian

[Mark]

On 2022-11-09 16:32:13 +0000, Alan B
<alanrich...@gmail.com.invalid> said:

> I downloaded my copy directly from Asar some years ago so paid the
> registration fee directly to them and got a reg. key. Presumably the reg.
> key I was given won't work if the app is downloaded from the App Store?

Ahhh... Thanks Ian! I had no idea... I just assumed as I'd had no reply
to emails to Kurt & Asar about three years ago (and there was nothing
on the website mentioning anything past Catalina), that development had
stopped.

I got it directly from the website originally, along with a serial
number. Good to know it's still alive and kicking!
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Cheers ... Mark

[Martin S Taylor]

On 5 Nov 2022, Mark wrote
(in article <tk6ftq$12go$1...@gioia.aioe.org>):

> Allows
> you to run iPhoto, iTunes & Aperture on Catalina up to Ventura (also
> Final Cut Pro 7, Logic Pro 9, and iWork ’09 on macOS Mojave or macOS
> High Sierra - should you wish to do so).

iWork '09 works fine on Mojave and High Sierra.

If anyone can find a way of getting it to run on later versions of the OS,
please let me know. As far as I can tell it won't run under VM Fusion or any
of the other main emulators.
MST