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Installing Windows in Bootcamp: 'Select CD-rom boot type 1 or 2. What's going on? I can't do anything.

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pfgpowell

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Mar 15, 2013, 2:05:38 PM3/15/13
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I gave up on trying to install Windows 7 on my Macbook Pro running Lion because I kept getting stuck at a demand, when first booting from the Windows DVD to install the OS, to select type 1 or 2. Well, the fact is that I am unable to select anything as no key stroke registers, quite apart from knowing which is which and why. The odd thing is that I have successfully installed W7 on three other Macbook Pro's the same as this one and not had that problem. The only time I did was when I tried to install it on a 13in Macbook, and I simply gave up on that one. So what gives? What do I do? I can't get a keystroke to register so I seem to be stuck from the outset. Is there any way I can get past the command and go on to installing W7

Jaimie Vandenbergh

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Mar 15, 2013, 2:12:20 PM3/15/13
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On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:05:38 -0700 (PDT), pfgpowell
<pfg.p...@virgin.net> wrote:

>I gave up on trying to install Windows 7 on my Macbook Pro running Lion because I kept getting stuck at a demand, when first booting from the Windows DVD to install the OS, to select type 1 or 2. Well, the fact is that I am unable to select anything as no key stroke registers, quite apart from knowing which is which and why. The odd thing is that I have successfully installed W7 on three other Macbook Pro's the same as this one and not had that problem. The only time I did was when I tried to install it on a 13in Macbook, and I simply gave up on that one. So what gives? What do I do? I can't get a keystroke to register so I seem to be stuck from the outset. Is there any way I can get past the command and go on to installing W7

Plug in an external USB keyboard, just for that one keystroke.

Cheers - Jaimie
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pfgpowell

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Mar 15, 2013, 5:45:59 PM3/15/13
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Already tried that before I posted. Didn't work, which is why I posted.

pfgpowell

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Mar 15, 2013, 6:24:02 PM3/15/13
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On Friday, 15 March 2013 18:05:38 UTC, pfgpowell wrote:
> I gave up on trying to install Windows 7 on my Macbook Pro running Lion because I kept getting stuck at a demand, when first booting from the Windows DVD to install the OS, to select type 1 or 2. Well, the fact is that I am unable to select anything as no key stroke registers, quite apart from knowing which is which and why. The odd thing is that I have successfully installed W7 on three other Macbook Pro's the same as this one and not had that problem. The only time I did was when I tried to install it on a 13in Macbook, and I simply gave up on that one. So what gives? What do I do? I can't get a keystroke to register so I seem to be stuck from the outset. Is there any way I can get past the command and go on to installing W7

I've found out why: my Macbook Pro wasn't able to instqll 64 bit Windows. As it happens the Windows DVD I bought came with both the 32 and 64 bit versions

Jaimie Vandenbergh

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Mar 16, 2013, 10:35:57 AM3/16/13
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On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:24:02 -0700 (PDT), pfgpowell
<pfg.p...@virgin.net> wrote:

>On Friday, 15 March 2013 18:05:38 UTC, pfgpowell wrote:
>> I gave up on trying to install Windows 7 on my Macbook Pro running Lion because I kept getting stuck at a demand, when first booting from the Windows DVD to install the OS, to select type 1 or 2. Well, the fact is that I am unable to select anything as no key stroke registers, quite apart from knowing which is which and why. The odd thing is that I have successfully installed W7 on three other Macbook Pro's the same as this one and not had that problem. The only time I did was when I tried to install it on a 13in Macbook, and I simply gave up on that one. So what gives? What do I do? I can't get a keystroke to register so I seem to be stuck from the outset. Is there any way I can get past the command and go on to installing W7
>
>I've found out why: my Macbook Pro wasn't able to install 64 bit Windows. As it happens the Windows DVD I bought came with both the 32 and 64 bit versions

How odd. I thought all Lion Macs needed to be 64-bit capable.

What model is your MBP?

(I had bootup keystroke problems with an Apple Alu keyboard on a Mac
that was older than those, which prompted my earlier suggestion - a
plain PC keyboard worked fine! Pfft, Apple.)

Cheers - Jaimie
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-- Nancy Lebovitz, rasfw

Chris Ridd

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Mar 16, 2013, 12:02:08 PM3/16/13
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On 2013-03-16 14:35:57 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:

> On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:24:02 -0700 (PDT), pfgpowell
> <pfg.p...@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, 15 March 2013 18:05:38 UTC, pfgpowell wrote:
>>> I gave up on trying to install Windows 7 on my Macbook Pro running Lion
>>> because I kept getting stuck at a demand, when first booting from the
>>> Windows DVD to install the OS, to select type 1 or 2. Well, the fact is
>>> that I am unable to select anything as no key stroke registers, quite
>>> apart from knowing which is which and why. The odd thing is that I have
>>> successfully installed W7 on three other Macbook Pro's the same as this
>>> one and not had that problem. The only time I did was when I tried to
>>> install it on a 13in Macbook, and I simply gave up on that one. So what
>>> gives? What do I do? I can't get a keystroke to register so I seem to
>>> be stuck from the outset. Is there any way I can get past the command
>>> and go on to installing W7
>>
>> I've found out why: my Macbook Pro wasn't able to install 64 bit
>> Windows. As it happens the Windows DVD I bought came with both the 32
>> and 64 bit versions
>
> How odd. I thought all Lion Macs needed to be 64-bit capable.

Hm, what about the EFI? Can you boot a 64-bit OS X from a 32-bit EFI,
or does the EFI have to be 64-bit as well?

Some (most?) versions of Windows are fussy about EFI as well, and maybe
they refuse to install if they see too much EFI.

Frankly VirtualBox/VMware Fusion/Parallels is probably the way to go.

--
Chris

Jaimie Vandenbergh

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Mar 16, 2013, 1:19:52 PM3/16/13
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On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 16:02:08 +0000, Chris Ridd <chri...@mac.com>
wrote:

>On 2013-03-16 14:35:57 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:
>
>> On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:24:02 -0700 (PDT), pfgpowell
>> <pfg.p...@virgin.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, 15 March 2013 18:05:38 UTC, pfgpowell wrote:
>>>> I gave up on trying to install Windows 7 on my Macbook Pro running Lion
>>>> because I kept getting stuck at a demand, when first booting from the
>>>> Windows DVD to install the OS, to select type 1 or 2. Well, the fact is
>>>> that I am unable to select anything as no key stroke registers, quite
>>>> apart from knowing which is which and why. The odd thing is that I have
>>>> successfully installed W7 on three other Macbook Pro's the same as this
>>>> one and not had that problem. The only time I did was when I tried to
>>>> install it on a 13in Macbook, and I simply gave up on that one. So what
>>>> gives? What do I do? I can't get a keystroke to register so I seem to
>>>> be stuck from the outset. Is there any way I can get past the command
>>>> and go on to installing W7
>>>
>>> I've found out why: my Macbook Pro wasn't able to install 64 bit
>>> Windows. As it happens the Windows DVD I bought came with both the 32
>>> and 64 bit versions
>>
>> How odd. I thought all Lion Macs needed to be 64-bit capable.
>
>Hm, what about the EFI? Can you boot a 64-bit OS X from a 32-bit EFI,
>or does the EFI have to be 64-bit as well?

Apple won't let 64bit OSX launch from a 32bit Apple EFI.(*)

>Some (most?) versions of Windows are fussy about EFI as well, and maybe
>they refuse to install if they see too much EFI.

Windows only sees the BIOS anyway, at least up until 7 using the old
BootCamp driver set.

Win8 and the new driver set I've no idea, perhaps they've finally got
it.

>Frankly VirtualBox/VMware Fusion/Parallels is probably the way to go.

This in spades.

Cheers - Jaimie

* but it has been done by third party EFI variants. The problem is
that 32bit EFI-level drivers break the 64bit kernel, apparently - but
there are so few EFI-level drivers anyway it's a bit of a non-issue)
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your mouth. Particularly if the thing is cats."
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Jaimie Vandenbergh

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Mar 16, 2013, 1:23:46 PM3/16/13
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On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 17:19:52 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh
<jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:

>On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 16:02:08 +0000, Chris Ridd <chri...@mac.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Hm, what about the EFI? Can you boot a 64-bit OS X from a 32-bit EFI,
>>or does the EFI have to be 64-bit as well?
>
>Apple won't let 64bit OSX launch from a 32bit Apple EFI.(*)

>* but it has been done by third party EFI variants. The problem is
>that 32bit EFI-level drivers break the 64bit kernel, apparently - but
>there are so few EFI-level drivers anyway it's a bit of a non-issue)

Having looked into it a bit more, that doesn't seem to be an issue
after all. Apple seem to have just done it anyway, in a 'cleaning
house' sort of way - get rid of all the 32bit kernel code.

Cheers - Jaimie
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Chris Ridd

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Mar 16, 2013, 3:21:57 PM3/16/13
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On 2013-03-16 17:19:52 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:

> On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 16:02:08 +0000, Chris Ridd <chri...@mac.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Some (most?) versions of Windows are fussy about EFI as well, and maybe
>> they refuse to install if they see too much EFI.
>
> Windows only sees the BIOS anyway, at least up until 7 using the old
> BootCamp driver set.

That's the thing - 64-bit Windows 7 knows about EFI, but 32-bit Windows
7 does not. (WTF Microsoft?). Maybe 64-bit Windows 7 spots something
odd about Apple's EFI implementation and refuses to install. Apple's
EFI is supposedly a bit odd.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Operating_systems>

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Chris

David Empson

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Mar 16, 2013, 6:59:13 PM3/16/13
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Apple has a page listing the Windows versions supported by each model
for Boot Camp here:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5634

It looks like 64-bit Windows 7 (or Vista) support is only available for
2008 and later MacBook Pros.

32-bit Windows 7 also works on Mid/Late 2007 MacBook Pros.

The cutoff varies quite a bit for other families. Some of them seem
arbitrary, e.g. the early 2008 and mid 2007 MacBook Pro have the same
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT, but the 2008 models have a later generation of
Core 2 Duo processor.

I note that the Early 2008 series used to be the oldest MacBook Pro that
could boot the 64-bit Mac OS X kernel (with 10.6). 10.7 extended 64-bit
kernel support back one generation to the Mid 2007 series, and that
series is supported by 10.8.

--
David Empson
dem...@actrix.gen.nz

Jaimie Vandenbergh

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Mar 17, 2013, 4:54:02 PM3/17/13
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On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 19:21:57 +0000, Chris Ridd <chri...@mac.com>
wrote:

>On 2013-03-16 17:19:52 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:
>
>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 16:02:08 +0000, Chris Ridd <chri...@mac.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Some (most?) versions of Windows are fussy about EFI as well, and maybe
>>> they refuse to install if they see too much EFI.
>>
>> Windows only sees the BIOS anyway, at least up until 7 using the old
>> BootCamp driver set.
>
>That's the thing - 64-bit Windows 7 knows about EFI, but 32-bit Windows
>7 does not. (WTF Microsoft?).

Windows on a Mac (same provisos as above) doesn't see the EFI anyway,
BootCamp forces a fake BIOS for it instead.

And you're right, Apple's EFI is a looooong way from being UEFI. It's
a real minimum feature set.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
"You hear someone break into your home. You pull out your chainsaw
and crank it up. It makes its very distinctive chainsaw noise; he
hears it. What criminal is going to stay in a house with someone
that crazy?" -- Home defence with Franklin Hummel, rasfw

pfgpowell

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Mar 18, 2013, 3:34:16 PM3/18/13
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I should have said that it is a 2007 which isn't 64-bit. So I simply installed the 32 bit version of W7 and it went like a breeze.

David Empson

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Mar 18, 2013, 4:43:38 PM3/18/13
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pfgpowell <pfg.p...@virgin.net> wrote:

> On Saturday, 16 March 2013 14:35:57 UTC, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:24:02 -0700 (PDT), pfgpowell
> >
> > <pfg.p...@virgin.net> wrote:
> >
> > >On Friday, 15 March 2013 18:05:38 UTC, pfgpowell wrote:
> >
> > >> I gave up on trying to install Windows 7 on my Macbook Pro running
> > >>Lion because I kept getting stuck at a demand, when first booting from
> > >>the Windows DVD to install the OS, to select type 1 or 2. Well, the
> > >>fact is that I am unable to select anything as no key stroke
> > >>registers, quite apart from knowing which is which and why. The odd
> > >>thing is that I have successfully installed W7 on three other Macbook
> > >>Pro's the same as this one and not had that problem. The only time I
> > >>did was when I tried to install it on a 13in Macbook, and I simply
> > >>gave up on that one. So what gives? What do I do? I can't get a
> > >>keystroke to register so I seem to be stuck from the outset. Is there
> > >>any way I can get past the command and go on to installing W7
> > >>
> > >
> >
> > >I've found out why: my Macbook Pro wasn't able to install 64 bit
> > >Windows. As it happens the Windows DVD I bought came with both the 32
> > >and 64 bit versions
> >
> > How odd. I thought all Lion Macs needed to be 64-bit capable.
> >
> > What model is your MBP?
>
> I should have said that it is a 2007 which isn't 64-bit. So I simply
> installed the 32 bit version of W7 and it went like a breeze.

All 2007 MacBook Pro models have a 64-bit processor (and can run Lion;
the Mid/Late 2007 series can also run Mountain Lion).

The issue isn't whether the processor is 64-bit, it is whether Apple's
Boot Camp drivers support 64-bit Windows on that model.

As I noted earlier (in a post further down this subthread), Apple only
supports 64-bit Windows 7 on MacBook Pro models introduced in 2008 and
later, so your experience is consistent with Apple's documentation.
--
David Empson
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chrisbarczak....@gmail.com

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Oct 12, 2013, 6:51:31 PM10/12/13
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Uhmm I tried this on a 2007 iMac... How do I get the disc out???? I assume I have to take the drive out for now

David Empson

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Oct 12, 2013, 8:08:10 PM10/12/13
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<chrisbarczak....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Uhmm I tried this on a 2007 iMac... How do I get the disc out???? I assume
> I have to take the drive out for now

The usual way to force eject a CD/DVD on a Mac's internal drive is to
start up or restart the computer while holding down the mouse/trackpad
button. Keep holding it down until the disk is ejected (or the OS starts
up, in which case the firmware didn't recognise the button).

If that doesn't work, the other option with models in the last few years
is to hold down the Option (Alt) key at startup to get into the startup
disk selector, and once it is ready for input, the eject key will eject
the CD/DVD.

--
David Empson
dem...@actrix.gen.nz

Jaimie Vandenbergh

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Oct 14, 2013, 8:04:18 PM10/14/13
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For both of these, you *may* need to use a wired keyboard/mouse rather
than bluetooth wireless. The wireless ones should work, but
sometimes...

Cheers - Jaimie
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jorda...@gmail.com

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Dec 19, 2014, 10:57:25 PM12/19/14
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so does this mean we should use the 32 bit installer to be able to skip/ fix the boot type menu? or can i NOT get it Period cuz i have a macbook pro late 2007...Nidia 8600 m GT 256 MB...

pchosp...@gmail.com

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On Saturday, 20 December 2014 03:57:25 UTC, jorda...@gmail.com wrote:
> so does this mean we should use the 32 bit installer to be able to skip/ fix the boot type menu? or can i NOT get it Period cuz i have a macbook pro late 2007...Nidia 8600 m GT 256 MB...

any news
?

nospam

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Dec 10, 2019, 1:32:00 PM12/10/19
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In article <7a8e4918-0149-41c3...@googlegroups.com>,
that was asked *five* years ago.

have you been waiting all this time for an answer??

rs...@gmx.com

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Another day, another nym?

wanders...@gmail.com

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Em sexta-feira, 15 de março de 2013 15:05:38 UTC-3, pfgpowell escreveu:
> I gave up on trying to install Windows 7 on my Macbook Pro running Lion because I kept getting stuck at a demand, when first booting from the Windows DVD to install the OS, to select type 1 or 2. Well, the fact is that I am unable to select anything as no key stroke registers, quite apart from knowing which is which and why. The odd thing is that I have successfully installed W7 on three other Macbook Pro's the same as this one and not had that problem. The only time I did was when I tried to install it on a 13in Macbook, and I simply gave up on that one. So what gives? What do I do? I can't get a keystroke to register so I seem to be stuck from the outset. Is there any way I can get past the command and go on to installing W7



This is because the version of the installation CD has 32 and 64 bits, use a CD that has only 32 or only 64, cannot have the 2

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