TEMPOR~1 directory - How can I regain control of my drive?
Outsider
Not only doe this directory appear, I am not allowed to delete it!
Not even format works!
D:\TEMP>DIR/AD/O/P
Volume in drive D has no label
Volume Serial Number is 3AAC-92C3
Directory of D:\TEMP
. <DIR> 23-07-08 13.15 .
.. <DIR> 23-07-08 13.15 ..
TEMPOR~1 <DIR> 23-07-08 13.16 Temporary Internet Files
0 file(s) 0 bytes
3 dir(s) 263.888.896 bytes free
D:\TEMP>qformat d: /u/q
WARNING, ALL DATA ON NON-REMOVABLE DISK
DRIVE D: WILL BE LOST!
Proceed with Format (Y/N)?y
Drive D: is currently in use by another process.
Aborting Format.
Does anyone know how to eliminate it? How can I regain control of my drive?
This directory mysteriously appears each time I start Windows! How can I
prevent this from happening? BTW, I do not have IE installed.
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Walter Briscoe
alt.msdos.batch, Outsider <nonvali...@yahoo.com> writes
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> Directory of D:\TEMP
>
>. <DIR> 23-07-08 13.15 .
>.. <DIR> 23-07-08 13.15 ..
>TEMPOR~1 <DIR> 23-07-08 13.16 Temporary Internet Files
>Does anyone know how to eliminate it? How can I regain control of my drive?
>This directory mysteriously appears each time I start Windows! How can I
>prevent this from happening? BTW, I do not have IE installed.
>
which has that value.
You might also try something obstructive.
Can you delete the folder in safe mode? Try doing so and creating a file
called "Temporary Internet Files". If the name is in use as a file,
there is a good chance it can't be used as a folder. IE tends to be
tightly interwoven with W95+. Once, I tried removing it via Control
Panel; W95 was also taken out!
You don't say why this is so important to you.
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Todd Vargo
"Outsider" <nonvali...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4889A984...@yahoo.com...
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> Not only doe this directory appear, I am not allowed to delete it!
> Not even format works!
>
> D:\TEMP>DIR/AD/O/P
>
> Volume in drive D has no label
> Volume Serial Number is 3AAC-92C3
> Directory of D:\TEMP
>
> . <DIR> 23-07-08 13.15 .
> .. <DIR> 23-07-08 13.15 ..
> TEMPOR~1 <DIR> 23-07-08 13.16 Temporary Internet Files
> 0 file(s) 0 bytes
> 3 dir(s) 263.888.896 bytes free
>
> D:\TEMP>qformat d: /u/q
>
> WARNING, ALL DATA ON NON-REMOVABLE DISK
> DRIVE D: WILL BE LOST!
> Proceed with Format (Y/N)?y
>
>
> Drive D: is currently in use by another process.
> Aborting Format.
>
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> Does anyone know how to eliminate it? How can I regain control of my
drive?
> This directory mysteriously appears each time I start Windows! How can I
> prevent this from happening? BTW, I do not have IE installed.
That's because it's a Windows system folder. Windows Explorer (not IE) uses
a database file named index.dat stored, guess where, to keep track of where
all of the files, that would be stored in the TIF cache, came from. As long
as IE is not installed, there should be no reason to worry about deleting
the TIF folder nor relocating it.
If you insist to delete it, you have to do so before the GUI loads. But,
there is always a catch, when the Windows GUI loads, Explorer (not IE) will
recreate the TIF folder again, as you have already found out.
To avoid such housekeeping problems as with clearing the TEMP directory, my
suggestion to anyone reading this is, _never_ relocate the TIF folder to
your TEMP directory!
I have already tried removing entries from the registry in hopes to prevent
the TIF folder recreation. It wont work. Windows Explorer (not IE) just
recreates the registry entries the same as recreating the TIF folders.
If you really want to prevent recreation if TIF on your HD, open control
panel\internet options, and press the settings button. Set the cache as
small as possible (1MB), then move the TIF folder to a ramdrive (which I
know Outsider uses). Windows will need to reboot for the change to take
effect.
I already tested this, and it works. If by chance the cache target
(ramdrive) does not exist, TIF will be created in TEMP (along with Cookies
and History). When the ramdrive becomes available in later reboots, the
cache will again be created in the ramdrive, but the 3 folders in TEMP will
need removed manually.
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Outsider
??
What an odd question!
Do my reasons really make any difference? Do I need reasons for using
my own computer and peripherals?? Well, perhaps you will be able to
relate to my reasons.
First, I like to have control over my own drives so I, and not Microsoft,
can decide how I want to use my own drives, which are my own possessions,
not Microsoft's.
I choose to place the %temp% directory on a drive other than the boot drive,
just as I choose to place my browser cache on a drive other than the boot
drive. The reasons why should be fairly obvious as far as I am concerned,
but irrelevant to the discussion and I would like to stick to the issue.
Second, I created drive d: for my own use and naturally I need to be able
to clear it or format it, and indeed have control over it.
Do you think Microsoft should control my d: drive? This should be illegal.
The problem is the software industry is unregulated, and it would take
many millions of dollars to sue Microsoft and set a legal precedent.
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> Each product is more restrictive and intrusive than the previous.
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Outsider
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> "Outsider" <nonvali...@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:3B5EFD67...@yahoo.com...
>
> > You know, the more Microsoft products I try, the more I hate M$.
> > Each product is more restrictive and intrusive than the previous.
>
> Stay cool. Ommmm...... Ommmmmm.......
>
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What the heck is a "temporary internet file" anyhow?
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Roger Hunt
>>
>> > You know, the more Microsoft products I try, the more I hate M$.
>> > Each product is more restrictive and intrusive than the previous.
>>
>> Stay cool. Ommmm...... Ommmmmm.......
>>
>> --
>
>What the heck is a "temporary internet file" anyhow?
>
except yours. :-)
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Clay Calvert
> What the heck is a "temporary internet file" anyhow?
It is a cache of recently visited web pages. Imagine how painful it would
be to have to completely reload the previous page every time you hit the
"Back" button.
Outsider
Ahh, it is the Microsoft® proprietary name for browser cache files like
"shortcut" is the Microsoft® proprietary name for hyperlinks.
I have a browser cache which I setup in my browser, so I don't want M$
controlling my d: drive. That is outrageous and totally unacceptable!
Todd Vargo
"Roger Hunt" <Ro...@carewg.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Oh no, they are temporary on his machine too. His definition of temporary
and M$ just differ a little bit. ;-)
JimD
wrote:
>Clay Calvert wrote:
>>
>> Outsider <nonvali...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:3B6012EF...@yahoo.com...
>>
>> > What the heck is a "temporary internet file" anyhow?
>>
>> It is a cache of recently visited web pages. Imagine how painful it would
>> be to have to completely reload the previous page every time you hit the
>> "Back" button.
>
>
>Ahh, it is the Microsoft® proprietary name for browser cache files like
>"shortcut" is the Microsoft® proprietary name for hyperlinks.
>
>I have a browser cache which I setup [set up] in my browser,
I suspect this Tempor~1 directory is just that, the browser
cache you've set up in your browser!
>so I don't want M$
>controlling my d: drive. That is outrageous and totally unacceptable!
Paranoid or what?
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JimD
wrote:
>Frank-Peter Schultze wrote:
>>
>> "Outsider" <nonvali...@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:3B5EFD67...@yahoo.com...
>>
>> > You know, the more Microsoft products I try, the more I hate M$.
>> > Each product is more restrictive and intrusive than the previous.
>>
>> Stay cool. Ommmm...... Ommmmmm.......
>>
>> --
>
>What the heck is a "temporary internet file" anyhow?
The HTML and graphics files of the Internet sites you have
recently visited, so that you can use the Back and Forward
buttons without having to re-load the page every time.
Clay Calvert
<nonvali...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Clay Calvert wrote:
>>
>> Outsider <nonvali...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:3B6012EF...@yahoo.com...
>>
>> > What the heck is a "temporary internet file" anyhow?
>>
>> It is a cache of recently visited web pages. Imagine how painful it would
>> be to have to completely reload the previous page every time you hit the
>> "Back" button.
>
>
>Ahh, it is the Microsoft® proprietary name for browser cache files like
>"shortcut" is the Microsoft® proprietary name for hyperlinks.
>
>I have a browser cache which I setup in my browser, so I don't want M$
>controlling my d: drive. That is outrageous and totally unacceptable!
If you were using an open source OS, you could remove the offending
lines of code and then recompile.
Clay Calvert
CCal...@Wanguru.com
Replace "W" with "L"
Outsider
> >I have a browser cache which I setup [set up] in my browser,
>
> I suspect this Tempor~1 directory is just that, the browser
> cache you've set up in your browser!
Nope.
> >so I don't want M$
> >controlling my d: drive. That is outrageous and totally unacceptable!
>
> Paranoid or what?
No, pissed off and mad as hell.
Outsider
>
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 19:03:24 +0200, Outsider
> <nonvali...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Clay Calvert wrote:
> >>
> >> Outsider <nonvali...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3B6012EF...@yahoo.com...
> >>
[snipped]
> >I have a browser cache which I setup in my browser, so I don't want M$
> >controlling my d: drive. That is outrageous and totally unacceptable!
>
> If you were using an open source OS, you could remove the offending
> lines of code and then recompile.
>
An open source OS sounds like a reasonable future plan to me.
Outsider
>
> Outsider wrote:
> > This directory mysteriously appears each time I start Windows! How can I
> > prevent this from happening? BTW, I do not have IE installed.
[snipped]
> If you really want to prevent recreation if TIF on your HD, open control
> panel\internet options, and press the settings button. Set the cache as
> small as possible (1MB), then move the TIF folder to a ramdrive (which I
> know Outsider uses). Windows will need to reboot for the change to take
> effect.
I tried this, but no luck :-(. When I click on that, nothing happens.
> I already tested this, and it works. If by chance the cache target
> (ramdrive) does not exist, TIF will be created in TEMP (along with Cookies
> and History). When the ramdrive becomes available in later reboots, the
> cache will again be created in the ramdrive, but the 3 folders in TEMP will
> need removed manually.
>
> --
Is there a way to do it in regedit?
Frank-Peter Schultze
> An open source OS sounds like a reasonable future plan to me.
How about FreeDOS?
Todd Vargo
> Todd Vargo wrote:
> >
> > Outsider wrote:
>
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> > > This directory mysteriously appears each time I start Windows! How can
I
> > > prevent this from happening? BTW, I do not have IE installed.
>
>
> [snipped]
>
> > If you really want to prevent recreation if TIF on your HD, open control
> > panel\internet options, and press the settings button. Set the cache as
> > small as possible (1MB), then move the TIF folder to a ramdrive (which I
> > know Outsider uses). Windows will need to reboot for the change to take
> > effect.
>
> I tried this, but no luck :-(. When I click on that, nothing happens.
This could be because you already removed IE but I'm not sure.
>
>
> > I already tested this, and it works. If by chance the cache target
> > (ramdrive) does not exist, TIF will be created in TEMP (along with
Cookies
> > and History). When the ramdrive becomes available in later reboots, the
> > cache will again be created in the ramdrive, but the 3 folders in TEMP
will
> > need removed manually.
> >
> > --
>
> Is there a way to do it in regedit?
Yes, but I did some more testing, and discovered it is possible to eliminate
the recreation of TIF completely.
Open regedit and navigate to the following key.
(all one line)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows
\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders
Then on the right hand pane double click "Cache" and delete the entire
destination string and press "OK". You must reboot Windows for the change to
take effect (Systems setup for multiple users can just use the "Log Off
Current User" feature.)
Outsider
>
> "Outsider" <nonvali...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:488C43CB...@yahoo.com...
> > Todd Vargo wrote:
[snipped]
> > > If you really want to prevent recreation if TIF on your HD, open control
> > > panel\internet options, and press the settings button. Set the cache as
> > > small as possible (1MB), then move the TIF folder to a ramdrive (which I
> > > know Outsider uses). Windows will need to reboot for the change to take
> > > effect.
> >
> > I tried this, but no luck :-(. When I click on that, nothing happens.
>
> This could be because you already removed IE but I'm not sure.
Seems like a likely possibility.
[snipped]
> > Is there a way to do it in regedit?
> Yes, but I did some more testing, and discovered it is possible to eliminate
> the recreation of TIF completely.
>
> Open regedit and navigate to the following key.
>
> (all one line)
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows
> \CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders
>
> Then on the right hand pane double click "Cache" and delete the entire
> destination string and press "OK". You must reboot Windows for the change to
> take effect (Systems setup for multiple users can just use the "Log Off
> Current User" feature.)
>
> --
Wow, this sounds great! I'll try it on Monday :-)
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JimD
wrote:
You can remove most things by booting into (or out to)
pure DOS, then use the DEL or DELTREE commands.
john
<nonvali...@yahoo.com> writes
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>Not only doe this directory appear, I am not allowed to delete it!
>Not even format works!
>
>D:\TEMP>DIR/AD/O/P
>
> Volume in drive D has no label
> Volume Serial Number is 3AAC-92C3
> Directory of D:\TEMP
>
>. <DIR> 23-07-08 13.15 .
>.. <DIR> 23-07-08 13.15 ..
>TEMPOR~1 <DIR> 23-07-08 13.16 Temporary Internet Files
> 0 file(s) 0 bytes
> 3 dir(s) 263.888.896 bytes free
>
>D:\TEMP>qformat d: /u/q
>
>WARNING, ALL DATA ON NON-REMOVABLE DISK
>DRIVE D: WILL BE LOST!
>Proceed with Format (Y/N)?y
>
>
>Drive D: is currently in use by another process.
>Aborting Format.
>
>
>Does anyone know how to eliminate it? How can I regain control of my drive?
>This directory mysteriously appears each time I start Windows! How can I
>prevent this from happening? BTW, I do not have IE installed.
>
have you tried using the lock command? if you use:
lock d:
and then remove the directory?
dunno if this works, just an idea.
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Todd Vargo
"JimD" <j...@foot-and-mouth.com> wrote in message
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> >> > Is there a way to do it in regedit?
> >
> >
> >> Yes, but I did some more testing, and discovered it is possible to
eliminate
> >> the recreation of TIF completely.
> >>
> >> Open regedit and navigate to the following key.
> >>
> >> (all one line)
> >> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows
> >> \CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders
> >>
> >> Then on the right hand pane double click "Cache" and delete the entire
> >> destination string and press "OK". You must reboot Windows for the
change to
> >> take effect (Systems setup for multiple users can just use the "Log Off
> >> Current User" feature.)
> >>
> >> --
> >
> >Wow, this sounds great! I'll try it on Monday :-)
>
> You can remove most things by booting into (or out to)
> pure DOS, then use the DEL or DELTREE commands.
I'm sure he knows, but the desired solution is to completely prevent
recreation of the TIF folder in the first place since IE is not installed.
Outsider
>
> Outsider <nonvali...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3B610767...@yahoo.com>...
>
> > An open source OS sounds like a reasonable future plan to me.
>
> How about FreeDOS?
>
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It's a possibility. Have you seen their fdisk.exe?
http://www.23cc.com/free-fdisk/
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Outsider
>
> > Is there a way to do it in regedit?
> Yes, but I did some more testing, and discovered it is possible to eliminate
> the recreation of TIF completely.
>
> Open regedit and navigate to the following key.
>
> (all one line)
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows
> \CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders
>
> Then on the right hand pane double click "Cache" and delete the entire
> destination string and press "OK". You must reboot Windows for the change to
> take effect (Systems setup for multiple users can just use the "Log Off
> Current User" feature.)
>
Yay Todd! Success. :-))
Outsider
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> >D:\TEMP>qformat d: /u/q
> >
> >WARNING, ALL DATA ON NON-REMOVABLE DISK
> >DRIVE D: WILL BE LOST!
> >Proceed with Format (Y/N)?y
> >
> >
> >Drive D: is currently in use by another process.
> >Aborting Format.
> >
> >
> >Does anyone know how to eliminate it? How can I regain control of my drive?
> >This directory mysteriously appears each time I start Windows! How can I
> >prevent this from happening? BTW, I do not have IE installed.
> >
>
> have you tried using the lock command? if you use:
>
> lock d:
>
> and then remove the directory?
> dunno if this works, just an idea.
Thanks for the idea. I hadn't noticed this command before and no wonder
since it's an internal command. I am so happy about fixing the problem
with Todd's suggestion that I don't want to re-create the problem and
try the lock command just now. Maybe later.
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Frank-Peter Schultze
> Frank-Peter Schultze wrote:
> >
> > Outsider <nonvali...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3B610767...@yahoo.com>...
> >
> > > An open source OS sounds like a reasonable future plan to me.
> >
> > How about FreeDOS?
> >
> > --
>
> It's a possibility. Have you seen their fdisk.exe?
> http://www.23cc.com/free-fdisk/
Yes. IIRC, I used an older build to get rid of an non DOS partition...
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