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johannes
Dec 22, 2013, 4:41:46 AM12/22/13
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I hope that this qualifies for 'homebuild' group. After all, the RPI is
'hands on'. I have no illusions that this is a general computer, but may
have its uses as a monitoring/control device where it would be wasteful
to occupy a full PC full time. I know that RPI can do almost everything
else at a stretch, but why would anyone want to do that in such a
cramped environment. I rather see it as a usefull and risk-free
complement for certain computation/control/automation tasks.
Anyway, I am thinking of purchasing this devive, but am baffled that it
can't connect natively to a normal PC monitor. Of course I could connect
it to my TV, but it would be inconvenient. There are various gadget
solutins for how to connect it to a VGA, but they seem cumbersome.
However, they claim that you can connet HDMI via a cheap converter to
DVI, and then take the sound out, if necessary, via the normal round
audio socket. The problem is that my monitor is not VGA.
But can you piggy back the converters, e.g. HDMI -> DVI -> VGA by
using DVI->VGA converter? Would that work?
'hands on'. I have no illusions that this is a general computer, but may
have its uses as a monitoring/control device where it would be wasteful
to occupy a full PC full time. I know that RPI can do almost everything
else at a stretch, but why would anyone want to do that in such a
cramped environment. I rather see it as a usefull and risk-free
complement for certain computation/control/automation tasks.
Anyway, I am thinking of purchasing this devive, but am baffled that it
can't connect natively to a normal PC monitor. Of course I could connect
it to my TV, but it would be inconvenient. There are various gadget
solutins for how to connect it to a VGA, but they seem cumbersome.
However, they claim that you can connet HDMI via a cheap converter to
DVI, and then take the sound out, if necessary, via the normal round
audio socket. The problem is that my monitor is not VGA.
But can you piggy back the converters, e.g. HDMI -> DVI -> VGA by
using DVI->VGA converter? Would that work?
Adrian C
Dec 22, 2013, 4:45:15 AM12/22/13
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On 22/12/2013 09:41, johannes wrote:
> I hope that this qualifies for 'homebuild' group.
Post in comp.sys.raspberry-pi or google it.
> I hope that this qualifies for 'homebuild' group.
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Adrian C
johannes
Dec 22, 2013, 5:00:04 AM12/22/13
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On 22/12/2013 09:41, johannes wrote:
[...]
>
> Anyway, I am thinking of purchasing this devive, but am baffled that it
> can't connect natively to a normal PC monitor. Of course I could connect
> it to my TV, but it would be inconvenient. There are various gadget
> solutins for how to connect it to a VGA, but they seem cumbersome.
> However, they claim that you can connet HDMI via a cheap converter to
> DVI, and then take the sound out, if necessary, via the normal round
> audio socket. The problem is that my monitor is not VGA.
>
> But can you piggy back the converters, e.g. HDMI -> DVI -> VGA by
> using DVI->VGA converter? Would that work?
>
Oops, I meant: my monitor only has VGA socket of course.
> Anyway, I am thinking of purchasing this devive, but am baffled that it
> can't connect natively to a normal PC monitor. Of course I could connect
> it to my TV, but it would be inconvenient. There are various gadget
> solutins for how to connect it to a VGA, but they seem cumbersome.
> However, they claim that you can connet HDMI via a cheap converter to
> DVI, and then take the sound out, if necessary, via the normal round
> audio socket. The problem is that my monitor is not VGA.
>
> But can you piggy back the converters, e.g. HDMI -> DVI -> VGA by
> using DVI->VGA converter? Would that work?
>
Chris Whelan
Dec 22, 2013, 5:00:42 AM12/22/13
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On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 09:41:46 +0000, johannes wrote:
[...]
> Anyway, I am thinking of purchasing this devive, but am baffled that it
> can't connect natively to a normal PC monitor.
Why are you baffled? The reasons for no on-board VGA are fully and
clearly explained on the Pi's website.
> Of course I could connect
> it to my TV, but it would be inconvenient. There are various gadget
> solutins for how to connect it to a VGA, but they seem cumbersome.
> However, they claim that you can connet HDMI via a cheap converter to
> DVI, and then take the sound out, if necessary, via the normal round
> audio socket. The problem is that my monitor is not VGA.
If your monitor is not VGA, then presumably it is DVI. If so, HDMI to DVI
cables work perfectly.
> But can you piggy back the converters, e.g. HDMI -> DVI -> VGA by using
> DVI->VGA converter? Would that work?
No.
If in fact you meant the monitor you want to use is VGA only, be aware
that not all HDMI to VGA adaptors work.
Chris
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[...]
> Anyway, I am thinking of purchasing this devive, but am baffled that it
> can't connect natively to a normal PC monitor.
clearly explained on the Pi's website.
> Of course I could connect
> it to my TV, but it would be inconvenient. There are various gadget
> solutins for how to connect it to a VGA, but they seem cumbersome.
> However, they claim that you can connet HDMI via a cheap converter to
> DVI, and then take the sound out, if necessary, via the normal round
> audio socket. The problem is that my monitor is not VGA.
cables work perfectly.
> But can you piggy back the converters, e.g. HDMI -> DVI -> VGA by using
> DVI->VGA converter? Would that work?
If in fact you meant the monitor you want to use is VGA only, be aware
that not all HDMI to VGA adaptors work.
Chris
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Remove prejudice to reply.
Chris Ridd
Dec 22, 2013, 5:03:45 AM12/22/13
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On 2013-12-22 09:41:46 +0000, johannes said:
> I hope that this qualifies for 'homebuild' group. After all, the RPI is
> 'hands on'. I have no illusions that this is a general computer, but may
> have its uses as a monitoring/control device where it would be wasteful
> to occupy a full PC full time. I know that RPI can do almost everything
> else at a stretch, but why would anyone want to do that in such a
> cramped environment. I rather see it as a usefull and risk-free
> complement for certain computation/control/automation tasks.
>
>
> Anyway, I am thinking of purchasing this devive, but am baffled that it
> can't connect natively to a normal PC monitor. Of course I could connect
> it to my TV, but it would be inconvenient. There are various gadget
> solutins for how to connect it to a VGA, but they seem cumbersome.
There are cheap converters from HDMI to VGA which work well and don't
> I hope that this qualifies for 'homebuild' group. After all, the RPI is
> 'hands on'. I have no illusions that this is a general computer, but may
> have its uses as a monitoring/control device where it would be wasteful
> to occupy a full PC full time. I know that RPI can do almost everything
> else at a stretch, but why would anyone want to do that in such a
> cramped environment. I rather see it as a usefull and risk-free
> complement for certain computation/control/automation tasks.
>
>
> Anyway, I am thinking of purchasing this devive, but am baffled that it
> can't connect natively to a normal PC monitor. Of course I could connect
> it to my TV, but it would be inconvenient. There are various gadget
> solutins for how to connect it to a VGA, but they seem cumbersome.
draw much current. We have this one for our Pi:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0088K7QUQ
> However, they claim that you can connet HDMI via a cheap converter to
> DVI, and then take the sound out, if necessary, via the normal round
> audio socket. The problem is that my monitor is not VGA.
>
> But can you piggy back the converters, e.g. HDMI -> DVI -> VGA by
> using DVI->VGA converter? Would that work?
mentioned if you don't have a VGA monitor?
--
Chris
Chris Ridd
Dec 22, 2013, 5:04:53 AM12/22/13
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On 2013-12-22 10:03:45 +0000, Chris Ridd said:
> Er, I'm not really sure what your question is. Why is VGA even being
> mentioned if you don't have a VGA monitor?
OK, I see your update explains this!
> Er, I'm not really sure what your question is. Why is VGA even being
> mentioned if you don't have a VGA monitor?
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Chris
johannes
Dec 22, 2013, 5:21:38 AM12/22/13
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On 22/12/2013 09:45, Adrian C wrote:
> On 22/12/2013 09:41, johannes wrote:
>> I hope that this qualifies for 'homebuild' group.
>
> Post in comp.sys.raspberry-pi or google it.
Nobody I found have tried this suggested double pluging,
> On 22/12/2013 09:41, johannes wrote:
>> I hope that this qualifies for 'homebuild' group.
>
> Post in comp.sys.raspberry-pi or google it.
hence my question.
This is a ng with knowledgeable, sometimes helpful people.
What's wrong with asking? Have a nice christmas.
Tony Houghton
Dec 22, 2013, 9:56:37 AM12/22/13
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On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 09:41:46 +0000
johannes <jo...@sizefitter.com> wrote:
> Anyway, I am thinking of purchasing this devive, but am baffled that it
> can't connect natively to a normal PC monitor. Of course I could connect
> it to my TV, but it would be inconvenient. There are various gadget
> solutins for how to connect it to a VGA, but they seem cumbersome.
> However, they claim that you can connet HDMI via a cheap converter to
> DVI, and then take the sound out, if necessary, via the normal round
> audio socket. The problem is that my monitor is not VGA.
>
> But can you piggy back the converters, e.g. HDMI -> DVI -> VGA by
> using DVI->VGA converter? Would that work?
Do you mean your monitor is VGA-only, with no DVI? HDMI is compatible
> Anyway, I am thinking of purchasing this devive, but am baffled that it
> can't connect natively to a normal PC monitor. Of course I could connect
> it to my TV, but it would be inconvenient. There are various gadget
> solutins for how to connect it to a VGA, but they seem cumbersome.
> However, they claim that you can connet HDMI via a cheap converter to
> DVI, and then take the sound out, if necessary, via the normal round
> audio socket. The problem is that my monitor is not VGA.
>
> But can you piggy back the converters, e.g. HDMI -> DVI -> VGA by
> using DVI->VGA converter? Would that work?
with DVI-D (digital) via a simple adapter plug, but VGA is only
compatible with DVI-A (analogue) unless you use a more sophisticated
convertor. DVI-I supports both analogue and digital.
Linus Fisher
Dec 22, 2013, 9:59:55 AM12/22/13
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bought by my usual ill-advised eBay route. It's been fine. The novelty
of the pi wore off though...
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robert
Dec 22, 2013, 10:37:29 AM12/22/13
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Be aware that when connecting HDMI outputs to an old DVI-D display or
projector you may have DHCP issues and get no video. Not sure of if this
is an issue with Raspberry Pis but had it with DVD players.
Mark
Jan 2, 2014, 10:15:14 AM1/2/14
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On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 10:00:42 +0000 (UTC), Chris Whelan
<cawh...@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 09:41:46 +0000, johannes wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>> Anyway, I am thinking of purchasing this devive, but am baffled that it
>> can't connect natively to a normal PC monitor.
>
>Why are you baffled? The reasons for no on-board VGA are fully and
>clearly explained on the Pi's website.
Maybe the OP disagrees with their explanation (as do I) since VGA is
<cawh...@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 09:41:46 +0000, johannes wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>> Anyway, I am thinking of purchasing this devive, but am baffled that it
>> can't connect natively to a normal PC monitor.
>
>Why are you baffled? The reasons for no on-board VGA are fully and
>clearly explained on the Pi's website.
not really legacy in the sense that it is still ubiquitous. Having
looked at a selection of new and old monitors they all had VGA inputs.
Borg
Jan 2, 2014, 11:13:56 AM1/2/14
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On a side note. You don't get sound out through the HDMI on the Pi
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Chris Whelan
Jan 2, 2014, 11:42:24 AM1/2/14
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On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:13:56 +0000, Borg wrote:
> On a side note. You don't get sound out through the HDMI on the Pi
Just an enlargement on that statement; you won't get sound from HDMI to
> On a side note. You don't get sound out through the HDMI on the Pi
VGA, or from HDMI to DVI.
HDMI to HDMI works, and if it doesn't, this:
http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Sound
will fix it.
(PS your sig sep is broken.)
David.WE.Roberts
Feb 7, 2014, 1:30:47 PM2/7/14
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level computer, and one of the design assumptions was that most homes have
a TV. Not much point in having a £30 computer which won't work until you
buy an £80 monitor.
So having VGA on a monitor is not relevant - the Pi is designed to connect
to a TV.
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