CRAP DVD :(
puck
system-
pIII 733 fcpga
384mb sdram
gigabyte ga6vxe7+ motherboard
matrox g200 16mb sgram
awe64 gold sound
hitachi 12x dvd g7500
quantum fireball 6.4 gig 5400 rpm drive
basically, quite often if there is a lot of action in a particular
film the picture freezes for a few seconds.. or just slows down. i
have an old 14inch monitor that does 1024x768 at 60hz but for dvd
movies i have been running at 640x480 at 75hz mostly.
any suggestions for improvment would be most appreciated.
puck
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Stu@.
lower than the actual dvd resoloution=more work..
the G200 is a nice enough card for dvd.. i have the 8MB and that did dvd on
my PII350...
what are you using to play dvd? unless the "hitachi 12x dvd g7500" is a
hardware card package i dont see (with my sleep deprived eyes) any players
mentioned!! are you using software? which one?
the way its only having trouble during fast action bits suggests its a
performance/bottleneck problem because the bitrate is variable in DVD and
therefore the whole system will have more work to do during this time... i
assume you have DMA enabled on your DVD-drive? if not that could be the
bottleneck..
if its only on one specific dvd or part then it could of course be a duff
dvd in the first place!!
running at 640 and a high colour(assuming you are) could also be the prob..
run it at 8x6 16bit for the G200 to do its stuff..
i need sleep now, so check out that stuff and get back to us with the
findings, and a bit more detail about players/operating system etc..
puck
<s...@thepink.worldonline.co.uk> stood up, raised ones hand and
gleefully exclaimed:
>go to 800x600 for a start for normal and 1024x768 for widescreen.. 640 is
>lower than the actual dvd resoloution=more work..
i shall definitely try that.
>the G200 is a nice enough card for dvd.. i have the 8MB and that did dvd on
>my PII350...
>what are you using to play dvd? unless the "hitachi 12x dvd g7500" is a
>hardware card package i dont see (with my sleep deprived eyes) any players
>mentioned!! are you using software? which one?
power dvd. the latest full version.
>the way its only having trouble during fast action bits suggests its a
>performance/bottleneck problem because the bitrate is variable in DVD and
>therefore the whole system will have more work to do during this time... i
>assume you have DMA enabled on your DVD-drive? if not that could be the
>bottleneck..
i have all thr via4in1 drivers installed and the windows does
recognise the dvd drive as a hitachigd7500
>if its only on one specific dvd or part then it could of course be a duff
>dvd in the first place!!
well, tried too films. one of them is an old film called 'the
message', an epic of sorts and i thought being a late sixties early
seveties job it might be bad quality but its the same with another
film i tried. it seems as if fast action sequences are the problems
>running at 640 and a high colour(assuming you are) could also be the prob..
>run it at 8x6 16bit for the G200 to do its stuff..
i shall try that.
>i need sleep now, so check out that stuff and get back to us with the
>findings, and a bit more detail about players/operating system etc..
thanks very much
Conor Turton
hawsons...@cf.ac.uk says...
> i can't work out why the dvd picture quality is so crap in my machine.
>
> system-
> pIII 733 fcpga
> 384mb sdram
> gigabyte ga6vxe7+ motherboard
> matrox g200 16mb sgram
> awe64 gold sound
> hitachi 12x dvd g7500
> quantum fireball 6.4 gig 5400 rpm drive
>
> basically, quite often if there is a lot of action in a particular
> film the picture freezes for a few seconds.. or just slows down. i
> have an old 14inch monitor that does 1024x768 at 60hz but for dvd
> movies i have been running at 640x480 at 75hz mostly.
>
> any suggestions for improvment would be most appreciated.
The G200 is now an old dated graphics card and will struggle at 1024x768
especially as the CPU is having to calculate the resizing as well.
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Stu@.
would that be the released 2.55 or the recent 2.55 build 0620 or the pirate
evaluation V3.0 ;)
anyway good choice.. shouldnt be the problem its a good player..
> i have all thr via4in1 drivers installed and the windows does
> recognise the dvd drive as a hitachigd7500
havnt used VIA for a while.. isnt there a program that comes with it you run
to select which drives run under DMA?? with most chipsets its normally in
the option "settings" under each drive in device manager as a check box, but
i seem to recall its not there with VIA and you need to use their program!!
if its on the CD or website i cant remember.. i think it comes as part of
the 4in1 package,, have a nose.. make sure the dma is on for your DVD else
the drives performance will be sumwhat decreased and it might not be able to
cope with these high data spikes!!
Stu@.
True but unfortunately you missed out "incredibly powerfull".. the G200 is
an incredible card and wont struggle in any way especially not on a
PIII700+!! i ran DVD just fine on my PII300 with an 8Mb G200 and puck has
the 16MB one! i now run a PIII800 @ 1280x1024 still on my G200 8MB, and
DVD is still lurvely, hell even at 1600x, me monitor would rather not
though ;)
puck
<conor....@gmx.net> stood up, raised ones hand and gleefully
exclaimed:
>> any suggestions for improvment would be most appreciated.
>
>The G200 is now an old dated graphics card and will struggle at 1024x768
>especially as the CPU is having to calculate the resizing as well.
so what is your suggestion mate?
puck
<s...@thepink.worldonline.co.uk> stood up, raised ones hand and
gleefully exclaimed:
>> The G200 is now an old dated graphics card
>
>True but unfortunately you missed out "incredibly powerfull".. the G200 is
>an incredible card and wont struggle in any way especially not on a
>PIII700+!! i ran DVD just fine on my PII300 with an 8Mb G200 and puck has
>the 16MB one! i now run a PIII800 @ 1280x1024 still on my G200 8MB, and
>DVD is still lurvely, hell even at 1600x, me monitor would rather not
>though ;)
>
could this be a monitor problem in my system? could that be too slow
at refreshing?
puck
>go to 800x600 for a start for normal and 1024x768 for widescreen.. 640 is
hope you got your sleep. okay, i have tried all you suggested above
and running the video card at 800x600 under 16bit still produced the
ocassinal slow down or freeze in frames.
my operating system is win98se.
the soft player i use is power dvds latest version.
by the way, dma is enabled.
kind regards
Stu@.
blurry or whatever throughout the film, but you mentioned the image pausing
completely on occasion, so no i would say not... you say you have your
monitor at 75hz, thats 75 redrawn frames each second DVD being under half
that so no problems there...
if it wasnt illegall you could have tried to rip the DVD to your hard disk
using a program such as Deccs or DOD dvd ripper, playing the resulting .vob
file off your hard disk would illiminate or incriminate your DVD drive as
the guilty party!! if it still skipped then you know you have a
decoding/display problem... (but as i said that would be illegal ;)
"puck" <hawsons...@cf.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:26:46 -0000, "Stu@."
> <s...@thepink.worldonline.co.uk> stood up, raised ones hand and
> gleefully exclaimed:
>
> >> The G200 is now an old dated graphics card
> >
> >True but unfortunately you missed out "incredibly powerfull".. the G200
is
> >an incredible card and wont struggle in any way especially not on a
> >PIII700+!! i ran DVD just fine on my PII300 with an 8Mb G200 and puck
has
> >the 16MB one! i now run a PIII800 @ 1280x1024 still on my G200 8MB, and
> >DVD is still lurvely, hell even at 1600x, me monitor would rather not
> >though ;)
> >
>
> could this be a monitor problem in my system? could that be too slow
> at refreshing?
Stu@.
lots of things i should have mentioned ages ago but forgot!!
close all background apps and programs exept ur dvd and systray/explorere
etc.. (close Pdesk.exe it can be a right pain sometimes.)
open up "system monitor" setup to monitor the CPU useage as a graph at
1second intervals... set up the dvd to a position before somewhere that
usually skipps and hit play.. watch the graph.. it should settle down while
playing, no where near the 100% mark.. (as reference on my PIII800 as i
write this mail.. (and therefore have loads of apps open.. my reading was
between 40-50%) anyway play the DVD and check that the cpu usage doesnt max
out during the point where you have the trouble..
as i say it should be no where near it and if it does indeed max out then
you probably have some hardware problem or conflict..
hugh pearce
Hi
I had a very similar problem when i upgraded my IDE controller drivers,
going back to the old ones cured it
Hugh
puck
>if the monitor was faulty or incredibly old/dying it could produce a image
>blurry or whatever throughout the film, but you mentioned the image pausing
>completely on occasion, so no i would say not... you say you have your
>monitor at 75hz, thats 75 redrawn frames each second DVD being under half
>that so no problems there...
>
>if it wasnt illegall you could have tried to rip the DVD to your hard disk
>using a program such as Deccs or DOD dvd ripper, playing the resulting .vob
>file off your hard disk would illiminate or incriminate your DVD drive as
>the guilty party!! if it still skipped then you know you have a
>decoding/display problem... (but as i said that would be illegal ;)
right, problem solved now thanks to you :)
basically, i switched off the puter and restarted and did everything
as instructed again in previous postings. then rebooted, did scan disc
and put on that old film 'the message' again. now its fine. so
basically, when i watch dvd films i shall have to use 16bit colour.
many thanks yet again.
kind regards
puck
>open up "system monitor" setup to monitor the CPU useage as a graph at
>1second intervals... set up the dvd to a position before somewhere that
>usually skipps and hit play.. watch the graph.. it should settle down while
>playing, no where near the 100% mark.. (as reference on my PIII800 as i
>write this mail.. (and therefore have loads of apps open.. my reading was
>between 40-50%) anyway play the DVD and check that the cpu usage doesnt max
>out during the point where you have the trouble..
>
>as i say it should be no where near it and if it does indeed max out then
>you probably have some hardware problem or conflict..
>
right now that the problem has been rectified, i have still checked
the cpu usage and it does seem to be constantly on 100% when dvd is
playing. i have three other programmes running as well and the dvd
picture is fine now but even when i have the other applications
switched off the cpu usage is 100%.
i have rain 1.0 installed on my puter and when that is on there is a
false reading in cpu usage but with rain switched off the cpu is still
using 100%. as i said above, the picture is fine now but should the
cpu really use up its full potential or is there a problem with system
monitor?
Stu@.
to be reading acuratly.. if you really were at 100% then you would notice
frames being dropped and sound etc... may be something may not.. search the
net and try finding another cpu load monitor... see what that says.. at the
end of the day if all is working ok then it doesnt really matter does it,
curiosity aside!
what hugh says may very well be true.. perhaps the bus mastering on those
new drivers is somehow screwed up and is using more cpu than it should!!
worth checking out..
S.W. Cooper
my system (Athlon 700). I tried playing Diablo2 after watching some DVD
yesterday (Power DVD on a 14" monitor again, with no problems), and it
was so slow it was almost unplayable. Reboot, and all problems solved.
Windows 98 is a really bad OS like this, I think it all has to do with
allocating memory, most of it gets allocated, then only some gets
reclaimed when tasks close.
puck wrote:
>
> On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:05:31 -0000, Conor Turton
> <conor....@gmx.net> stood up, raised ones hand and gleefully
> exclaimed:
>
> >> any suggestions for improvment would be most appreciated.
> >
> >The G200 is now an old dated graphics card and will struggle at 1024x768
> >especially as the CPU is having to calculate the resizing as well.
>
> so what is your suggestion mate?
> puck
>
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