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Backup up an EEE PC 901 with Acronis True Image

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Nick Le Lievre

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Nov 1, 2008, 11:35:25 AM11/1/08
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I want to backup my XP EEE PC 901 to an external USB HD with Acronis True
Image, this should be fairly easy, my question is how do I go about
restoring it in the event of a complete system failure.

As there is no CD drive I can't boot off a bootable Acronis restore CD, how
else am I going to restore it any idea's.


Adrian C

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Nov 1, 2008, 12:28:52 PM11/1/08
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Bootable USB. Google it?

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Nick Le Lievre

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Nov 1, 2008, 12:40:40 PM11/1/08
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"Adrian C" <em...@here.invalid> wrote in message
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> Bootable USB. Google it?
>

Seems a bit too difficult, what I have done is bought a used external
slimline usb2.0 DVD+-RW drive off eBay apparently the outer casing is a bit
broken/loose but it works, only £ 9.99 with free delivery.

If it does indeed work then it'll be perfect, if not then its only a £ 10
gamble. An 3.5" enclosure would of cost me about the same if not a little
more.


GeoffC

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Nov 1, 2008, 12:56:26 PM11/1/08
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Make a PXE image from the boot diskette and use TFTPD32 to boot over a
network.

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Palindrome

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Nov 1, 2008, 3:25:38 PM11/1/08
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Isn't there a BIOS option to boot off an external USB CD drive? Or to
boot off a flash drive? Or a network boot and load an image with Acronis
on it?

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Nick Le Lievre

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Nov 1, 2008, 5:08:40 PM11/1/08
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"Palindrome" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Isn't there a BIOS option to boot off an external USB CD drive? Or to boot
> off a flash drive? Or a network boot and load an image with Acronis on it?

Yeah you can boot off a "removable" drive, I guess that means USB Flash
drives, hard drives or external cd/dvd drives there is no mention of a
network boot. The thing is getting a usb hard drive to boot is not that
simple same with a USB flash drive and I don't have an external cd/dvd drive
but as I mention in another post I bought an used and cosmetically damaged
external dvd+-rw off eBay for £ 10 so as long as its *only* cosmetic damage
it should be a good deal for a tenner. I've looked and external dvd+-rw are
about £ 30 upwards new.


Daniel James

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Nov 2, 2008, 9:40:50 AM11/2/08
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In article news:<geiggg$j59$1...@aioe.org>, Nick Le Lievre wrote:
> Yeah you can boot off a "removable" drive, I guess that means USB
> Flash drives, hard drives or external cd/dvd drives ...

Yes. I can certainly boot my EEE 701 from a USB CD drive.

> ... there is no mention of a network boot.

Really? There is on the 701.

> I've looked and external dvd+-rw are about £ 30 upwards new.

I paid a little more -- £40-something? -- for a USB-powered LG drive,
but it's a great little device.

Cheers,
Daniel.


Nick Le Lievre

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Nov 2, 2008, 9:57:43 AM11/2/08
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"Daniel James" <waste...@nospam.aaisp.org> wrote in message
> I paid a little more -- Ł40-something? -- for a USB-powered LG drive,

> but it's a great little device.
>

The cosmetically damaged one I've bought off of eBay for a tenner is a
BTC/Emprex drive and comes with an AC adapter although as its a slimline
USB2.0 drive, not sure if it will work on USB power only seeing as its
basically a laptop sized drive, I heard some can only read discs on USB
power but for Ł 10 I'm not complaining.


Steve Walker

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Nov 2, 2008, 10:26:32 AM11/2/08
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Nick Le Lievre wrote:
> "Adrian C" <em...@here.invalid> wrote in message
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>> Bootable USB. Google it?
>>
>
> Seems a bit too difficult, what I have done is bought a used external
> slimline usb2.0 DVD+-RW drive

Yeah, that's bootable USB....


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Jon

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Nov 3, 2008, 2:20:42 AM11/3/08
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In article <gehsvk$4q4$1...@aioe.org>,
nickle...@jerseymail.co.uk.invalid says...

Can it boot from network or USB?

Activate the Acronis Self-restore thing? Can't rememebr the actual name
of the feature but it's puts a bootable version of acronis on the "HD"
and alters the MBR o when the machine boots you will see "Press F11 to
enter the acronis recovery console" or similar.
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Nick Le Lievre

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Nov 3, 2008, 6:44:40 AM11/3/08
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At 03 Nov 2008 07:20:42 +0000 Jon wrote:
> Can it boot from network or USB?
>
> Activate the Acronis Self-restore thing? Can't rememebr the actual name
> of the feature but it's puts a bootable version of acronis on the "HD"
> and alters the MBR o when the machine boots you will see "Press F11 to
> enter the acronis recovery console" or similar.
> --

Thanks but I wanted something in case of complete hd failure including mbr,
the external dvd drive option seems best.

harikeo

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Nov 3, 2008, 6:47:35 AM11/3/08
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Doesn't Acronis build a bootable CD which can then connect to a network
or USB device?

Daniel James

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Nov 3, 2008, 7:55:19 AM11/3/08
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In article news:<gekf5u$g9j$1...@aioe.org>, Nick Le Lievre wrote:
> The cosmetically damaged one I've bought off of eBay for a tenner
> is a BTC/Emprex drive and comes with an AC adapter ...

OK ...

> ... although as its a slimline USB2.0 drive, not sure if it will


> work on USB power only seeing as its basically a laptop sized drive,

> ...

It may, it may not. It depends more on the design of the USB adaptor
than on the drive itself. My USB DVD has a DC input and a cable to draw
power from a second USB port if needed, but works perfectly well (at
least for reading, I've not tried burning with it yet) with just the
single USB connection.

> ... I heard some can only read discs on USB power ...

The drive will certainly take more power to burn than to read, whether
the power provided by USB is enough I don't know.

The USB spec says a device can draw 100mA at any time, but it allowed to
draw 500mA if it can query the device and the device says that 500mA is
available. Some dumb devices don't support the query, and so only draw
100mA (REALLY dumb devices just try to draw 500mA without asking, and
can burn out your USB port).

If in doubt use a powered USB hub.

> but for £ 10 I'm not complaining.

No, indeed.

Cheers,
Daniel.

Nick Le Lievre

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Nov 3, 2008, 1:44:45 PM11/3/08
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"harikeo" <nom...@home.net> wrote in message
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> Doesn't Acronis build a bootable CD which can then connect to a network or
> USB device?

Yeah it does but not much use if you have an EEE ie no CD/DVD drive (unless
you get an external one).

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Palindrome

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Nov 4, 2008, 4:17:36 AM11/4/08
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Mark wrote:
<snip>

> ...It took several goes and right now I can't remember which sequence of
> events finally worked (soz) but it wasn't that hard.

Ah, well at least you know what your problem was... :)


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Nick Le Lievre

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Nov 7, 2008, 10:03:50 AM11/7/08
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"Daniel James" <waste...@nospam.aaisp.org> wrote in message
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>> but for £ 10 I'm not complaining.
>
> No, indeed.
>

Just to update I got the drive today and it does its intended purpose ie
boot from an Acronis CD-Rom, I tried other things such as reading DVD/CD
under Windows and it was a bit hit and miss it reads some but ignores
others, I even tried burning a DVD @ 2.4x but it was way way slow for some
reason 500mb of data was gonna take 5 hours, I dunno there may some firmware
update that addresses this issue or something.

As regards to this condition well the previous owner must of cracked it open
in an attempt to use the drive as an internal device and it has 2 missing
screws like the sort you get on a mobile phone, they're tiny, and the outer
casing is broken obviously but its present, if I can find 2 really tiny
screws it will stay together without any trouble... for £ 10 even it I can
only use it to boot Acronis its still worth it vs the hassle of bootable USB
flash/hdd.

Nick Le Lievre

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Nov 7, 2008, 11:49:08 AM11/7/08
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"Nick Le Lievre" <nickle...@jerseymail.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
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When I tried the drive as above I was running it on my Vista 64-bit system,
I tried it on the EEE XP 32bit and it reads a lot more of the discs, there
are still the odd few which don't read ie a DL disc I tried and a few others
but mainly it works, even played some DVDs for the first time on the EEE,
now as I don't have any DVD burning programs on the EEE yet I can't try out
the burning function, but at least it runs quite well as a CD/DVD drive and
if I can find 2 screws from somewhere it`ll be fine.

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