OT: Enabling native SATA with XP
Tony Houghton
a spare COLA from a scrapped PC so I managed to find an OEM Home disc
image and installed from that. It has SP3 slipstreamed, but despite that
the installer didn't recognise the hard drive until I enabled IDE
emulation in the BIOS. ISTR having this problem before but I can't
remember how to get XP working with native SATA. Do I just need to
install the chipset driver then change the BIOS back? I thought I had to
do some sort of repair from the installation disc before, but what can I
repair it with if this disc doesn't support SATA?
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Johny B Good
You'll either have to a repair or scratch install and press the F6 key at
the start of the install process to signify that you wish to be prompted
to supply additional drivers on a floppy disk[1]. You'll, of course, need
to obtain or create such a disk in order to be able to supply the sata
driver software. Since it's a laptop, you'll either have to download the
XP sata drivers from the manufacturer's website if they've been made
available or else identify the MoBo chipset and track down the sata
drivers from the chipset manufacturer's website.
With Vista being the oem pre-installed OS, you have a better chance of
finding the necessary XP drivers than if win7 had been pre-installed but
you may still have to play internet sleuth in order to track down what you
need[2].
Alternatively, it may be possible to download an updated driver cab file
which includes the majority of such sata drivers[3] and slipstream it into
the install CD. From what I can remember, when I was looking at a way to
do this for the win2k install CD, it was a complex process that I couldn't
translate into a win2k solution.
[1] Being a laptop, you'll need to attach an external USB floppy drive (it
won't work from a thumb drive, it can only be done with an actual floppy
disk).
[2] If it comes to this, the best bet is to search for any postings by
others who have managed to do exactly what you're attempting to do
[3] Even adding all those extra sata driver files to the install CD's
manifest may still not be sufficient if the chipset used happens to be an
obscure or unsupported one.
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Regards JB Good
Mike Tomlinson
<h...@realh.co.uk> escribió:
> It has SP3 slipstreamed, but despite that
>the installer didn't recognise the hard drive until I enabled IDE
>emulation in the BIOS.
What's wrong with using IDE emulation? It's there for that exact
reason, to cater for the sort of problem you're having now.
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Synapse Syndrome
>> It has SP3 slipstreamed, but despite that
>>the installer didn't recognise the hard drive until I enabled IDE
>>emulation in the BIOS.
>
> What's wrong with using IDE emulation? It's there for that exact
> reason, to cater for the sort of problem you're having now.
Isn't it nearly impossible to get AHCI mode working after installing the OS
using that? (this is from hazy memory from a while back)
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Mike Tomlinson
Synapse Syndrome <syn...@syndrome.me.uk> escribió:
>Isn't it nearly impossible to get AHCI mode working after installing the OS
>using that?
Repair install and do the f6 thing, insert floppy with the AHCI drivers
on when prompted.
You only need AHCI if a) you want to hot-plug, or b) want NCQ. There's
little or no performance gain with NCQ.
Not sure if AHCI needs to be enabled to support TRIM.
Tony Houghton
Johny B Good <inv...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 17:34:21 +0100, Tony Houghton <h...@realh.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> My brother-in-law asked me to replace Vista with XP on his laptop. I had
>> a spare COLA from a scrapped PC so I managed to find an OEM Home disc
>> image and installed from that. It has SP3 slipstreamed, but despite that
>> the installer didn't recognise the hard drive until I enabled IDE
>> emulation in the BIOS. ISTR having this problem before but I can't
>> remember how to get XP working with native SATA. Do I just need to
>> install the chipset driver then change the BIOS back? I thought I had to
>> do some sort of repair from the installation disc before, but what can I
>> repair it with if this disc doesn't support SATA?
>
> You'll either have to a repair or scratch install and press the F6 key at
> the start of the install process to signify that you wish to be prompted
> to supply additional drivers on a floppy disk[1]. You'll, of course, need
> to obtain or create such a disk in order to be able to supply the sata
> driver software. Since it's a laptop, you'll either have to download the
> XP sata drivers from the manufacturer's website if they've been made
> available or else identify the MoBo chipset and track down the sata
> drivers from the chipset manufacturer's website.
It's Intel 945/ICH7 so that shouldn't be too hard.
> With Vista being the oem pre-installed OS, you have a better chance of
> finding the necessary XP drivers than if win7 had been pre-installed but
> you may still have to play internet sleuth in order to track down what you
> need[2].
Yeah, boy were the other drivers hard to find! For some reason vanilla
chipset mfrs' drivers wouldn't work in many cases - even the GeForce Go
7200 graphics! And the most vital ones weren't listed on HP's website
even though they're available on the FTP server (with obscure file
names). I was lucky enough to find notebooks-driver.blogspot.com which
had links to them and was surprisingly free of malware, ads and
fake/trojan download buttons.
> Alternatively, it may be possible to download an updated driver cab file
> which includes the majority of such sata drivers[3] and slipstream it into
> the install CD. From what I can remember, when I was looking at a way to
> do this for the win2k install CD, it was a complex process that I couldn't
> translate into a win2k solution.
I've done something similar with nLite before.
> [1] Being a laptop, you'll need to attach an external USB floppy drive (it
> won't work from a thumb drive, it can only be done with an actual floppy
> disk).
I do have a USB floppy drive, and even some old floppies which might
still work.
Tony Houghton
Mike Tomlinson <mi...@jasper.org.uk> wrote:
I thought there was supposed to be a performance hit. Is it not
noticeable then? Especially as this is a ~4-year-old laptop drive, not a
performance one.
Mike Tomlinson
<h...@realh.co.uk> escribió:
>I thought there was supposed to be a performance hit. Is it not
>noticeable then? Especially as this is a ~4-year-old laptop drive, not a
>performance one.
Hell no. It's probably a 5400 rpm drive. You're wasting your time
worrying about AHCI, just leave it in IDE emu and use the time saved on
doing something more productive, like drinking beer. :-)
John Jordan
>
> It's Intel 945/ICH7 so that shouldn't be too hard.
Known recipe for switching to AHCI after install:
http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=444831
I've used this on both ICH7 and ICH9 chipsets, so it does work. Wouldn't
necessarily bother though, as the performance benefits on a laptop HD
will be small.
Otherwise there's the F6+floppy and drivers slipstreamed onto the CD
options.
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John Jordan
Tired
If I remember correctly, the hiren boot disk incorporates a pretty useful
tool that adds a range of sata/ide/ahci/raid drivers into an existing XP
installation. It comes into its own when needing to change motherboard, from
experience the most likely cause of a BSOD is the hard drive controller
driver mismatch.
Daniel James
> Yeah, boy were the other drivers hard to find!
What make is this laptop? Sounds like one to avoid ...
Cheers,
Daniel.
Tony Houghton
Daniel James <dan...@me.invalid> wrote:
HP Pavilion dv2000 (dv2224ea to be precise).
Daniel James
> In <VA.0000047...@me.invalid>,
> Daniel James <dan...@me.invalid> wrote:
> > What make is this laptop? Sounds like one to avoid ...
>
> HP Pavilion dv2000 (dv2224ea to be precise).
Ah, HP! Didn't they once make computers?
I don't suppose I shall have to remember to avoid those for very long.
Thanks for the info, though.
(So sad that yet another once-great /hardware/ company is in the
process of being trashed by an inept /software/ manager with crazy
ideas. If I were an HP shareholder I'd be baying for his blood.)
Cheers,
Daniel.