Cheap(ish) 19" monitor recommendations
Alan Daly
I'm looking for replacement for my 17" monitor, My budget is about
£150-£200, (Well, I've £300 to spend total but want to pop a AMD Barton core
2500+ in to replace my 1700+ Palomino)
So far I'm drawn to Tekhead's cheap 19" .25 dot pitch model but lack of
specs and the super-cheap price has me holding back(hint hint Sam, how about
some more details on your website about this monitor), at the upper bracket
of my budget I've seen this monitor available at Microwarehouse for £199inc
: (Mitsubishi DiamondPlus 93SB)
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/index.cfm?go=hardware.view&product=1360
Any bargains, pitfalls and advice gratefully received,
Thanks,
Alan.
nightic
"Alan Daly" <alan...@btclick.com> wrote in message news:b83jn1$rbc$1...@sparta.btinternet.com...
Best for around that money is the Viewsonic P95F+
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/crt_p95fplus.htm
http://www.tomshardware.com/display/20020319/crt-10.html#viewsonic_p95f
http://computers.cnet.com/hardware/0-2295747-404-4837348.html?tag=pdtl-list
Samuel
PCWorld are doing one for £99 at the moment. No idea what it's like but
remember seeing it in their Easter Promotion thing.
Dr Bombcrater
>
> I'm looking for replacement for my 17" monitor, My budget is about
> £150-£200, (Well, I've £300 to spend total but want to pop a AMD Barton
core
> 2500+ in to replace my 1700+ Palomino)
The Hansol 920D is good. Flat screen and good image quality for less than
£170 :
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X2
92ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=17989
## Doc
Jaime
I know its over your budget however aria have the Iiyama 454 on offer for
£255 on their today only. This IMHO has to be the best 19" crt on the
market. Whatever you decide upon it is defently worth avoiding the cheap
deals various vendors have and going for a branded model that you can read
reviews on and/or prehaps find and look at in a high street shop.
Jaime
TellyTubby
> I know its over your budget however aria have the Iiyama 454 on offer
> for Ł255 on their today only. This IMHO has to be the best 19" crt on
> the market.
Far from it, I have both a IIyama 454 and a Philips Brilliance 109P, for
picture colour, clarity and quality, the Philips beats the IIyama hands
down, but the IIyama does do higher resolutions.
William Caruthers
"TellyTubby" <ye...@right.invalid> wrote in message
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> Jaime wrote:
>
>
> > I know its over your budget however aria have the Iiyama 454 on offer
> > the market.
>
> Far from it, I have both a IIyama 454 and a Philips Brilliance 109P, for
> picture colour, clarity and quality, the Philips beats the IIyama hands
> down, but the IIyama does do higher resolutions.
Not to mention IIyama monitors have a habit of breaking all the time.
Julian Hales
shipping, yeah ok its 2nd hand but if you see the seller has good feedback
usually you can take there word its in good condition
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nightic
"TellyTubby" <ye...@right.invalid> wrote in message news:105105782...@ersa.uk.clara.net...
>
>
> > I know its over your budget however aria have the Iiyama 454 on offer
> > the market.
>
> Far from it, I have both a IIyama 454 and a Philips Brilliance 109P, for
> picture colour, clarity and quality, the Philips beats the IIyama hands
> down, but the IIyama does do higher resolutions.
Methinks you need to fiddle with your 454's settings.
Jaime
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Agreed, the 454 does give an excelant picture, however it is the
hardest/fiddlest monitor to setup so that it gives its best picture. Took me
30 mins to an hour fiddling with the controlls.
Jaime
Mike
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Have to say i was very disappointed with the 454. I expected it to be
superb but it strains my eyes.
Turning the colour setting right down i find it to dark gaming, turning the
settings up, it starts to hurt my eyes after a while.
iiyama - over rated imo
Robert
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>Have to say i was very disappointed with the 454. I expected it to be
>superb but it strains my eyes.
>Turning the colour setting right down i find it to dark gaming, turning the
>settings up, it starts to hurt my eyes after a while.
>iiyama - over rated imo
Suggest that you set it up using a monitor test applet such as NTEST
(Nokia Monitor Test) - it is definitely worth the effort.
--
Robert
Jaime
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Just to add that @1280*1024 @ 100hz its by far the easiest crt on the eye,
makes it painful to use anyone elses screen. Also better than older lcds
that suffer ghosting etc.. as I find these cause eye stran when scrolling
etc..
I have found the colour setting to be the hardest to get right as it can
look a little dark before fiddling with the settings.
Jaime
TellyTubby
> "nightic"
>>
>> Methinks you need to fiddle with your 454's settings.
>
> Agreed, the 454 does give an excelant picture, however it is the
> hardest/fiddlest monitor to setup so that it gives its best picture.
> Took me 30 mins to an hour fiddling with the controlls.
>
Nightic: Methinks you actually need to see a Philips 'P' model monitor (not
S or B range).
I can fiddle with the monitor settings till dawn, my original observation
still stands, the Philips 109P has a better picture quality than the IIyama.
I would even go so far as to say it easily rivals the Sony profesional tubes
at quite a bit less.
nightic
"TellyTubby" <ye...@right.invalid> wrote in message news:105122075...@demeter.uk.clara.net...
Naaah, that's what reviews are for.
Compilation of excerpts below;
"However, when we did our comparisons of still frame captures from games, the Philips fell noticeably behind the Viewsonic, possibly
due to color blending and streaking problems we noticed during our clinical tests - both of which may play a larger role in detail
oriented display requirements of games like Rune and Quake, which depend a lot on depth perception through intricate use of
contrasting colors and shadows. In these images, the Philips had a more washed out and plain look that detracted from gaming
immersion."
"There are a lot of good things about the Philips Brilliance 109P20, but the lack of sharpness across the whole screen is
distracting. The crackling from the back of the casing is also pretty disturbing, though I may never work out what's causing it to
happen. Philips assure me it's not typical."
"But, for me at least, the 109P20 is a lot of money and advanced technology, for a slightly disappointing result."
"Although text on the 109P looked fairly sharp, it was not as dense as we've seen on other displays. Text at small point sizes was
fairly legible, but darker text would have been easier to read."
Not forgetting this is the same Philips known for their generally lame quality domestic electronics (DECT phones anyone?).
Don't see too many of their TVs setting the world alight either.
TellyTubby
>
> Naaah, that's what reviews are for.
>
> Compilation of excerpts below;
I repeat, a bit louder since you didn't hear me first time: " SEE A PHILIPS
FOR YOURSELF, THEN COMPARE "
You got a chip on your shoulder about Philips or something? or is this a
case of "I read some review, bought an IIyama without actually seeing it
first and..."
nightic
"TellyTubby" <ye...@right.invalid> wrote in message news:105123644...@demeter.uk.clara.net...
> nightic wrote:
> >
> > Naaah, that's what reviews are for.
> >
> > Compilation of excerpts below;
>
> I repeat, a bit louder since you didn't hear me first time: " SEE A PHILIPS
> FOR YOURSELF, THEN COMPARE "
>
Yep, I do actually, having previously owned several of their domestic (cr)appliances (tv/video/stereo/radio/phones), I've had the
displeasure of discovering that no matter how impressive their initial quality, they tend to go 'bang' rather sooner than they
ought.
Further, how does one actually get to experience the true quality of a monitor prior to purchase - pop into PC World and check out a
screensaver?
("oooou, that bouncy yellow thing is so ummm, yellow!")
I'm assuming they're not going to look too kindly upon me racking up some frags whilst one of their gormless teenage staff tries to
pre-sell me an extended warranty?
Also, working in media, I'm spoiled in that I get to ask questions of the "wot monita?" variety to the local digital artists,
photographers and animators and what do I hear them reply? "Iiyama, Iiyama, Iiyama" is what (well ok, with the odd "Eizo" thrown in
too).
Sure, the Philips may be a fantastic monitor, better even than the 454 but I reckon it's just you being funny or not setting gamma
and colour temps.
No matter, if it works for you and your eyesight, light tolerances, colour sensitivity, usage type etc then that's great, I
apologise for any offence caused and I'd happily marry your daughter, buuuuut.....given it's your subjective opinion vs. that of
collegues and long-time industry pros (not to mention reviewers who I've justifiably trusted in the past ie. TomsHardware, PCPro...)
who have likely had a greater exposure to comparable hardware, you'll forgive me for pitching my tent in their camp.
Having said all that, I will make an effort to check one out this weekend - I don't expect to be suprised but I am willing to be and
if so I'll report back, apologise for being cheeky and offer to make you a nice cup-a-soup (no croutons).
PC World, here I come, ready or not!
Now then, where did I put my RatzPad and Mousewax............
T e l l y TuBBy
> Yep, I do actually, having previously owned several of their domestic
> (cr)appliances (tv/video/stereo/radio/phones), I've had the
> displeasure of discovering that no matter how impressive their
> initial quality, they tend to go 'bang' rather sooner than they
> ought.
> Having said all that, I will make an effort to check one out this
> weekend - I don't expect to be suprised but I am willing to be and if
> so I'll report back, apologise for being cheeky and offer to make you
> a nice cup-a-soup (no croutons).
<snipped>
Haha, well if you put it like that I can't really argue. I personally
thought IIyama's were pretty good until I got a Philips, I'd rate Iiyama's
as "good" but by no means excellent (well in my eyes anyway)
And as for going Fubar, I just hope it dies within my warranty period :D
Regards,