DVD ripping for file server playback?

[David]

I know some of you are into storing digital media.

I keep meaning to copy the rack of DVDs to disc in the hope that "can't be
arsed to search through them looking for something then sticking it in the
DVD player" may give way to streaming to the laptop, tablet, or even
(gasp) a TV set top box.

There are even Raspberry Pis out there somewhere.

So - what is the best software to use to rip these to a central server?

What format gives the greatest chance of other software being able to play
it back? DVD only as (although I have bought a BluRay drive) I have not
bought a BluRay disc so far.

On the most favoured machine (W7 64 bit Pro) I have Cyberlink PowerDVD 14,
Cyberlink MediaEspresso 7, Sony Vegas Movie Studion HD PLatimun 11 along
with DVD Architect Studio 5.0. Plus the standard Windows tools.

Linux - I do have one (slow) PC running Mint 64 bit.

Slightly wacky - I have Raspberry Pis and an external USB 2 DVD reader.

I really need to get set up to just spend a few hours a day feeding DVDs
into the beast until all of them have been copied to HDD.

I would also like to ditch the "extras" if possible and just concentrate
on the movie or TV series or whatever.


TIA


Dave R


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[Rodney Pont]

On 30 Oct 2016 14:06:14 GMT, David wrote:

>On the most favoured machine (W7 64 bit Pro) I have Cyberlink PowerDVD 14,
>Cyberlink MediaEspresso 7, Sony Vegas Movie Studion HD PLatimun 11 along
>with DVD Architect Studio 5.0. Plus the standard Windows tools.

What about windows media player to mp3?

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[Adrian Caspersz]

On 30/10/16 14:06, David wrote:
> I know some of you are into storing digital media.
>
> I keep meaning to copy the rack of DVDs to disc in the hope that "can't be
> arsed to search through them looking for something then sticking it in the
> DVD player" may give way to streaming to the laptop, tablet, or even
> (gasp) a TV set top box.
>
> There are even Raspberry Pis out there somewhere.
>
> So - what is the best software to use to rip these to a central server?

I recently looked at my 200+ collection of DVDs and my ongoing habits of
purchasing even more from the charity shop, and the time and electricity
that would be burnt in compressing them, and the ideal compression
ration required to maintain quality, and the worry about ongoing backups
of hard disks, and ....

<snip>

Gave up on that one. Life too short!

Considering ...

1. Just throw away the cases & stuff the DVDs in a large DJ Flight Case
http://www.3000rpm.com/acatalog/DJ-Flight-Case-For-CD-and-DVD.html

2. Stuff the inlays and artwork in a nice presentation folder for thumbing.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/anything/dp/B00V572JE2

3. Stick a label on the page indicating where the discs are in the box.

4. Update a database with same details for searching. Possible use of a
barcode scanner on 2., to make that job less tedious.

5. Enjoy the quality of something not madly compressed.

Eventually all of your DVD movies are going to be available on demand on
a very low cost streaming service.

You may go in for that eventually, which would nullify all the effort
you made in compressing your own collection.

I'm in exactly that situation with Spotify having most of the CDs (and
cassettes) I already own.

A thought.

Two IT things that are currently killing the planet.

1. Folks madly mining BitCoins.
2. Folks madly compressing DVDs.

YMMV etc....

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[Mike Tomlinson]

En el artículo <e7mgt5...@mid.individual.net>, Adrian Caspersz
<em...@here.invalid> escribió:

>2. Folks madly compressing DVDs.

ITYM "badly compressing DVDs"

Some of the stuff on the torrent sites claiming to be DVD/Bluray rips is
horrendous.

I've given up ripping DVDs, the torrents are inevitably easier once you
find a rip that's been done by someone with a clue.

As for my CD collection, still unsure about that. Ripping to .iso with
Exact Audio Copy still seems the best option for now, though I have
considered just shrugging and feeding the lot to iTunes, choosing the
128k option.

Thoughts appreciated.

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[Chris Ridd]

On 30/10/2016 14:06, David wrote:
> I know some of you are into storing digital media.
>
> I keep meaning to copy the rack of DVDs to disc in the hope that "can't be
> arsed to search through them looking for something then sticking it in the
> DVD player" may give way to streaming to the laptop, tablet, or even
> (gasp) a TV set top box.
>
> There are even Raspberry Pis out there somewhere.
>
> So - what is the best software to use to rip these to a central server?

There is a nice set of wrappers around open source tools to transcode a
ripped DVD or BR title into H.264-compressed mkv or mp4 files, at
https://github.com/donmelton/video_transcoding

> What format gives the greatest chance of other software being able to play
> it back? DVD only as (although I have bought a BluRay drive) I have not
> bought a BluRay disc so far.

IMHO you want H.264. H.265 is at least as good but with much smaller
file sizes, but support for it isn't as widespread. VLC can play it though.

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Chris

[RJH]

On 30/10/2016 15:11, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
> On 30/10/16 14:06, David wrote:
>> I know some of you are into storing digital media.
>>
>> I keep meaning to copy the rack of DVDs to disc in the hope that
>> "can't be
>> arsed to search through them looking for something then sticking it in
>> the
>> DVD player" may give way to streaming to the laptop, tablet, or even
>> (gasp) a TV set top box.
>>
>> There are even Raspberry Pis out there somewhere.
>>
>> So - what is the best software to use to rip these to a central server?
>
> I recently looked at my 200+ collection of DVDs and my ongoing habits of
> purchasing even more from the charity shop, and the time and electricity
> that would be burnt in compressing them, and the ideal compression
> ration required to maintain quality, and the worry about ongoing backups
> of hard disks, and ....
>

I just use Handbrake and the default settings. I did read up on it a
while back, and apparently there's nothing to be gained with different
bitrates etc. Results look fine to me. I think it takes about 20 minutes
for a DVD to a 1GB file.

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[Rodney Pont]

On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 14:49:39 +0000 (GMT), Rodney Pont wrote:

>On 30 Oct 2016 14:06:14 GMT, David wrote:
>
>>On the most favoured machine (W7 64 bit Pro) I have Cyberlink PowerDVD 14,
>>Cyberlink MediaEspresso 7, Sony Vegas Movie Studion HD PLatimun 11 along
>>with DVD Architect Studio 5.0. Plus the standard Windows tools.
>
>What about windows media player to mp3?

Ignore me, my eyes saw DVD but my brain read CD so I assumed audio!

[Johnny B Good]

I too use Handbrake to convert the BBC Freeview SD mpg files into more
compact mkv files (with no perceptible loss of quality getting reductions
anywhere from 40 to 60 percent with the odd case of an actual increase on
extremely rare occasions! - generally a 45 to 55 percent reduction
overall so far). This is relevant since the VOBs are just MPG files with
another extension.

I'd imagine you'd want to join all the VOBs into a single MPG file
before transcoding them with Handbrake so you'll need a basic editor to
join them all up without having to re-render them all to a single MPG. I
use a windows only program for this, called "MpegStreamClip.exe" (designed
to convert TS files to MPG but makes an excellent basic slice and dice
editor) which I run in a winXP VM, along with another utility called
"Mpg2Cut2.exe" to join up the sliced parts (not needed for BBC broadcast
material but useful for commercially broadcast programmes vandalised by
advert breaks[1]).

Handbrake can process MPG files at a rate of 10GB's worth an hour on my
current desktop machine (3.8GHz clocked quad core AMD cpu with 8GB ram
with an SSD and a couple of HDDs running Linux Mint). An hour's worth,
sourced from the BBC Freeview SD recordings, varies from 900MB to around
1.6GB, averaging around the 1.2GB mark. I usually wait till I've got an
overnight's worth to batch process, typically 100 to 130GB at a time, and
let that quad core CPU earn its keep on the night shift!

The most onerous part of the job will be the joining of the VOBs (or
will it?? - it's been nearly a decade since I last ran a DVD ripping tool
and I have a vague memory that joining the VOBs into one long MPG may
have been an option, BICBW[2]). Once you have your full length MPG files
created, the Handbrake batch process should be fairly straightforward to
set up as an overnight job.

[1] These days, the only commercial recordings I bother with are the Red
Dwarf series X1 episodes, one a week, on Dave and I use Kdenlive to cut
out the ad break. It takes considerably longer than using Mpg2Cut2 on
account of the re-rendering but it does give a cleaner join.

[2] I think I still have a few folders with DVD ripped output files
somewhere on the system so I'll take a look when I get a chance to check
them out - no time for that right now though.

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[Johnny B Good]

On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 18:21:57 +0000, Johnny B Good wrote:

> [2] I think I still have a few folders with DVD ripped output files
> somewhere on the system so I'll take a look when I get a chance to check
> them out - no time for that right now though.

Well, I found those DVD rips and, after a bit of experimentation with
MpegStreamClip, I can report good news!

Each DVD rip folder contains the decrypted VOBs and other files used to
control a DVD player (of which, only the VOBs are of any interest). In
this case, I examined the "Bank Job" DVD rip folder. This had four .vob
files which VLC handily played back allowing me to confirm that I needed
all four .vobs (some DVDs include extra .vobs for crap like trailers and
such).

When I opened the vts_01.vob with MpegStreamClip.exe it gave me the
option of opening all four of the vobs. Trying this never before
witnessed feature, I was shown the first frame (full black as it
happened) in the replay/edit window with a 1 hour 47 minute timeline,
confirming my suspicion that it had concatenated all four vobs ready to
be 'converted' into a single mpg file. All I had to do was choose the
'convert to headed mpeg' option, name the output file "Bank Job" and
click save.

About four minutes later, I had myself a 3.6GB mpg created out of the
3.7GB's worth of vobs followed some 17 minutes or so later with a
790MB .mkv file produced by Handbrake (a reduction to just 21.5% of the
original DVD file size!) and, as ever, with no discernible loss of
quality. :-)

If you're using windows as your host OS, then "MpegStreamClip" is the
tool to use with the ripped DVD movie files to convert each movie into a
self contained mpg media file. No need for a seperate concatenation
process, "MpegStreamClip" does it all for you[1].

Wondering whether there was a windows version of handbrake[2], I checked
out the wikipedia article. It seems it had originally been designed to
rip DVD content and transcode to H.264 but the deCSS code was removed in
version 0.9.2 (currently now at ver 5474) so you now need to use a
seperate DVD ripper to extract the .vob files. I guess I'll have to test
the possibility that I can skip the "MpegStreamClip" session altogether
and use Handbrake directly on the decrypted vob files. :-)

Anyway, it looks like ripping the DVDs and converting them into single
self contained H.264 mkv media files will pay a handsome dividend whether
you're just going to save them to a flash drive or store them on a NAS
box for streaming over your lan. The only missing ingredient is a
suitable DVD ripping tool.

I know there are plenty of free DVD ripping tools out there but it's
been so long since I did any ripping, I can't even recall the name of the
DVD ripping program I was using a decade or so back. After exploring the
files accumulated over the past two decades or more on my system and
racking my brain, the best I can come up with is that it may have been a
program called Flask. Whatever it was, it was this that read the DVD
contents and then streamed the decrypted vobs to the hard disk folder.

[1] Talk about "Learning Something New Every Day"! I've only been using
"MpegStreamClip" for the last ten years or so! Admittedly, only because
it was one of the recommended utilities on the Toppy forum's useful
software list for converting the Toppy's *.rec files into *.mpg files.

I discovered it would convert existing mpg files into cleaner mpgs. The
mpg files produced by DTVR's on-the-fly conversion process were a little
bit dirty (about 0.14% of excess baggage - presumably FEC artifacts). I
also found it made a better slice and dice editor than "Mpg2Cut2" when it
came to topping and tailing out the start/end paddings. Now I find it can
do so much more! However, if Handbrake can do what I think it can, it
seems I might not be making any use of this feature...

After testing with another ripped DVD's worth of vobs, I can't see any
way to make Handbrake concatenate its output into a single media file.
Even offering it an actual unencrypted DVD (Fritz The Cat) to work
directly with failed to show any hints of concatenation. Unless I'm
missing something obvious, I guess "MpegStreamClip" will be the "Go To"
application for converting the vob files from a ripped DVD after all.

[2] I'd never used Handbrake until *after* I was forced to give up win2k
about 18 months ago when a major hardware upgrade kicked it into the
ditch for lack of hardware driver support. I've been using Linux Mint
since then with win2k and winXP guest VMs courtesy of Oracle's VirtualBox
so couldn't remember whether or not it had been ported to windows.


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Johnny B Good

[Gordon]

On 2016-10-30, RJH <patch...@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> I just use Handbrake and the default settings. I did read up on it a
> while back, and apparently there's nothing to be gained with different
> bitrates etc. Results look fine to me. I think it takes about 20 minutes
> for a DVD to a 1GB file.
>

Handbrake is a DVD ripper and video file compressor

https://handbrake.fr/features.php

While it compressors video files just fine it also rips the DVD and the
compresses the rip all in one go. Forget about the VOBs.

You can just rip the main stuff on the DVD, leave the extras there on the
DVD.

Handbrake, multi platform, Linux, Mac, and MS Windows. There might be other
ways but Hanbrake certainly proves that the French can make as good as
software as their wine.

[Gripper]

"David" wrote in message news:e7md2m...@mid.individual.net...

"I know some of you are into storing digital media.

I keep meaning to copy the rack of DVDs to disc in the hope that "can't be
arsed to search through them looking for something then sticking it in the
DVD player" may give way to streaming to the laptop, tablet, or even
(gasp) a TV set top box."

You might consider ripping your DVDs to .iso format, the advantages are that
you keep the original quality and you get all the DVD "extras".
The downside is the file size.
Your Raspberry Pi with XBMC or Kodi, or whatever they're calling it this
week, can play .iso files from your network server.
HTH
Neil

[David]

Thanks - have it installed on this system (from some time ago) but haven't
tried it yet.

I may have a ripfest.

Core 2 Quad Q6700 plays AMD FX-6300 plays Core i5 2500k.

Don't think the Pi will make it past the preliminaries.

Cheers

[Johnny B Good]

On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 04:42:46 +0000, Gordon wrote:

> On 2016-10-30, RJH <patch...@gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>> I just use Handbrake and the default settings. I did read up on it a
>> while back, and apparently there's nothing to be gained with different
>> bitrates etc. Results look fine to me. I think it takes about 20
>> minutes for a DVD to a 1GB file.
>>
> Handbrake is a DVD ripper and video file compressor

Not any more, according to wikipedia:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HandBrake>

Now, it's just a transcoder.

>
> https://handbrake.fr/features.php
>
> While it compressors video files just fine it also rips the DVD and the
> compresses the rip all in one go. Forget about the VOBs.

If only that were still true. :-(

>
> You can just rip the main stuff on the DVD, leave the extras there on
> the DVD.

Quoting this from the above web site,

"Supported Input Sources:
Handbrake can process most common multimedia files and any DVD or BluRay
sources that do not contain any kind of copy protection."

Rather limits its usefulness as a DVD ripping tool to non CSS movie DVDs
such as that "Fritz The Cat" DVD I used to test this feature of Handbrake
with. Unless I was missing "The bleedin' obvious", Handbrake just turned
its nose up at this 'task' as if the option to transcode unencrypted, DRM
free content directly from optical media had been completely removed.

If this is the case, I'm not at all bothered since there are plenty of
DVD/Blu-Ray ripping tools to handle this part of the task anyway.

>
> Handbrake, multi platform, Linux, Mac, and MS Windows. There might be
> other ways but Hanbrake certainly proves that the French can make as
> good as software as their wine.

The nationality of a programmer need not be a hindrance to quality
software. :-)

Handbrake is in the same class of usefulness as MpegStreamClip afaiac.:-)

Now, all I need to do is check out contenders for the actual "Ripping"
process required for CSS protected DVDs and I'll be all set to convert
that growing collection of DVD movies I've not bothered inflicting on my
unsullied by region changes DVD burners.

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[Chris Ridd]

On 01/11/2016 16:56, Johnny B Good wrote:
> Rather limits its usefulness as a DVD ripping tool to non CSS movie DVDs
> such as that "Fritz The Cat" DVD I used to test this feature of Handbrake
> with. Unless I was missing "The bleedin' obvious", Handbrake just turned
> its nose up at this 'task' as if the option to transcode unencrypted, DRM
> free content directly from optical media had been completely removed.

On the Mac and Linux, you can get it to use de-CSS libraries that ship
with the VLC player, and also the equivalent BR decrypting libraries
that come with MakeMKV.

Maybe you can do the same on Windows?

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Chris

[ChrisK]

This is old freeware but seems to work still.

http://www.dvdsmith.com/dvdsmith-movie-backup.html

Has the advantage that is doesn't do the video conversion as well so you
can use the tool of your choice.

CK

[Johnny B Good]

I've not got it installed in the winXP guest VM I normally use to run
MpegStreamClip jobs (the most likely guest VM I'd have used for a windows
version of Handbrake). I've only got it installed in the Linux Mint host
where I use it to transcode the mpegs and the BBC iplayer sourced .ts
files.

If Handbrake still supports DVD/Blu-Ray ripping, it doesn't show up as
an option in my case. I could be missing something obvious but even
pointing it at that unencrypted DVD of "Fritz The Cat" failed to elicit
any useful response.

I've got VLC installed (2.1.6 Rincewind) so I think it's a fair bet I've
got those de-CSS libraries installed on the system. Mind you, I haven't
tried playing an encrypted DVD movie direct from any of the DVD re-
writers so I could be wrong about this.

I've just tested VLC playback with another commercially pressed DVD
(Nim's Island) which I expect will be CSS protected. The first attempt
failed using the upper of the two drives even though it did eventually
manage to mount. I then tried my luck with the second drive and was able
to play it using VLC. Thus encouraged, I tried accessing it via Handbrake
and landed up processing just a single vob which wouldn't playback
properly in VLC (sound track only).

However, after a little more fiddling, I took the hint and managed to
pick the correct vob file for it to indicate chapters 1 to 25 and a total
running time of 92 minutes as opposed to the single 6 minute chapter it
had initially chosen. It's just completing as I type... and now I have a
1.1GB mkv movie file which *does* playback using VLC. :-)

Now I'm ripping the "Airplane" special collector's edition DVD but not
without a bit of a struggle to work out that I had to pick just the
Video_TS folder rather than open it and select the starting chapter.
Anyway, I'm now halfway through a 12 minute run (84 minutes and 26
chapters this time). It's averaging 175 fps which seems a typical speed
for mpeg media files. That's about 7 times real-time playback speed, not
too far removed from what I was seeing back in the day, when I first
experimented with ripping DVD movies using Flask under windows 95 osr2.

I seem to recall having to update the DVD R/W drive's firmware and
install a regionless driver dll or three to avoid chewing up the "Five
bites of the cherry" allowance on region changes (only another 4 resets
of the cherry count being allowed by the drive manufacturers afaicr).

I'm not sure whether there is any danger of 'silently' using up all five
bites of the cherry using Linux. I suspect not. Perhaps someone can
clarify the differences between windows and Linux in the matter of DVD
movie playback and region settings. Can it be as simple as treating the
DVD movie as a normal data file collection and decrypting in software?

The "Airplane" session has produced a 737MiB mkv file out of the 4.3GB's
worth of vobs. Mind you, the whole disk is 7.3 GiB in size. I guess the
extra 3GiB's worth are all the extra bonus materials on what is quite
plainly a dual layer DVD.

However, once again, when I'm playing the movie direct from the DVD
using VLC, I can't access any of this "additional material" despite being
able to navigate the DVD movie menu (chapter selection and so on) so it's
a bit of a mystery as to what that extra 3 GiB is referencing. I can't
play back any of the vobs when individually selected from the file
manager menu since VLC doesn't seem to be using the de-CSS library
functions in this mode so I can't see what those additional vobs are all
about.

Anyway, be that as it may, it appears that with the de-CSS library
provided by VLC, Handbrake *can* rip DVD movies straight to a single mkv
H.264 file after all. It just took me a bit longer to figure out how to
persuade Handbrake to do the necessary is all.

It seems I will finally get to watch those DVD movies after all and,
paradoxically, without having to sit through those damned accusatory,
self fulfilling prophecies of copyright infringement warnings which made
the 'official' way of watching them such a soured experience. The Movie
industry deserves to suffer all the losses due to "Piracy" that's coming
their way for that egregious act of vandalism alone imo.

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Johnny B Good

[Johnny B Good]

On Wed, 02 Nov 2016 10:18:55 +0000, Chronos wrote:

> On Wed, 02 Nov 2016 01:46:44 GMT Johnny B Good
> <johnny...@invalid.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> I've got VLC installed (2.1.6 Rincewind) so I think it's a fair bet
>> I've got those de-CSS libraries installed on the system. Mind you, I
>> haven't tried playing an encrypted DVD movie direct from any of the DVD
>> re- writers so I could be wrong about this.
>

> VLC doesn't depend on libdvdcss (assuming Linux here) so you *must* add
> it manually, although for a disk without CSS it should make no
> difference, so check the permissions of your /dev/sr0 and destination
> directory. adduser <your user> cdrom will do the trick for sr0 perms.
> Also, make sure you have libdvdread and libdvdnav installed.
>
> handbrake/stable,now 0.9.9+svn6422+dfsg1-2 amd64 [installed]
> versatile DVD ripper and video transcoder (GTK+ GUI)

When I check the 'About Handbrake' details, all it displays is:-

"HandBrake rev5474 (x86_64)"

I'm running this on Linux Mint 17.1 Rebecca KDE 64-bit.

The only windows machines I'm using these days are all virtual (the best
type of windows machines imho :-)

>
> This one definitely still rips DVDs, including those with CSS.

There's no argument against Handbrake's ability to rip DVDs, not now
I've managed to figure out the necessary steps. :-)

What made me think otherwise was the mention of the removal of the de-CSS
libraries in the history given in the wikipedia article (that and the
fact that I couldn't figure out how to persuade Handbrake to do its
thing).

As for libdvdcss, that's most likely in the system courtesy of stuff
like Acid Rip and K3b (disk burning). In regard of libdvdread and
libdvdnav, I can't see how VLC could have been able to let me access and
control the film chapter selection menus without them. However, I can
always check what's installed via the software manager panel...

It seems I have all three of those libdvd packages, libdvdcss2,
libdvdnav4 and libdvdread4 which looks like the full complement.

Are there any other packages I ought to have installed?

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[Chris Ridd]

On 02/11/2016 18:02, Chronos wrote:

> On Wed, 02 Nov 2016 14:53:16 GMT
> Johnny B Good <johnny...@invalid.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Are there any other packages I ought to have installed?
>

> libbluray if you ever plan to pull content from one of those, although
> it's a bit more convoluted than CSS. AACS is, to be honest, a massive
> pain in the arse and you're better off finding some "other" method of
> getting the relevant ones and zeros onto your storage media.

I've had very good results ripping BluRays using MakeMKV. It is slow to
rip, but then you have excellent control over the compression levels you
want. A lot of "other" sources are over-compressed. Er, I'm told,
allegedly...

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Chris

[David]

Finally getting round to some testing.
My first attempt at using Handbrake on W7 64 bit Pro with a DVD as source
produced (after a short struggle) 5 '.m4v' files, the largest being about
6.5 GB.

I will attempt to play them - WMC refuses on this PC because the monitor
is VGA - and investigate further but it looks as though compression may be
in order.

Cheers


Dave R





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[David]

Giving this a try - simple if not space efficient.

If one DVD is about 7GB then you can store 100 DVDs in 700GB, which should
be enough for the short term.

Second stage can be encoding, trimming, compressing.

I will report progress.

Cheers


Dave R

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[David]

Interesting, but aimed mainly at Linux, by the look of it.

Being lazy and Windows based (mainly) at the moment I am looking for a
simple install and use.

Intrigued that the starting point is the ripped DVD; I really wanted the
starting point to be the physical DVD.

[David]

Win 8.1.

Just right clicking on the DVD and then using "copy" and "paste" copied a
couple of DVDs to disc and they would play in VLC.

Now a couple of newer DVDs refuse to copy because they are encrypted.

Handbrake doesn't work under W8.1 in the way it worked on W7; presumably
lack of codecs.

Now downloading WinX DVD Ripper (free) to try that.

[David]

The web site claims that it is free, but that you need the paid "Platinum"
version for recent new encryption/protection.

However clicking on the free download gets you a trial copy of the
Platinum version which will only rip the first 5 minutes of the DVD.

This is prejudicing me against paying for it unless it is the only
reasonable option. If they had been up front about the 5 minutes
limitation then I would have moved on.

VLC can allegedly rip, but also allegedly it is slow and sometimes
unreliable.

I'm also not inclined to pay for software at the moment because I am on
the road with an old laptop and if I am going to have one ripping machine
then I want a faster and more modern one.


So still no real solution to DVD ripping.

[Gripper]

"David" wrote in message news:ec57oa...@mid.individual.net...

"So still no real solution to DVD ripping."

Try DVDDecrypter

[Rob Morley]

On 23 Dec 2016 18:12:26 GMT
David <wib...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> From: David <wib...@btinternet.com>
> Subject: Re: DVD ripping for file server playback?

> > Now downloading WinX DVD Ripper (free) to try that.
>
> The web site claims that it is free, but that you need the paid
> "Platinum" version for recent new encryption/protection.
>
> However clicking on the free download gets you a trial copy of the
> Platinum version which will only rip the first 5 minutes of the DVD.
>
> This is prejudicing me against paying for it unless it is the only
> reasonable option. If they had been up front about the 5 minutes
> limitation then I would have moved on.

The rotters. :-) It's like that "free download" that somehow morphs
into "sign up for your free trial period" after you've clicked through
several links and closed several popups.
Rumour has it that a keygen is readily available ...

[David]

Conflicted there as well.

Feels a bit like going into a shop, thinking "Bloody hell, I'm not paying
that much for a tin of beans!" and deciding to shop lift it instead.

Further investigations ongoing after a day off for Christmas.

[David]

Looked at that, but allegedly so old it doesn't handle more recent copy
protection.

The newer product from the same source, Imgburn, certainly chokes on copy
protection.

At the moment it looks as though Usenet is being out performed by Facebook.

A potential solution to get Handbrake working on W8+ is to download Kodi
and copy some DLLs to allow decoding.

Handbrake now seems to be working on W10 (not my machine). Will confirm
with more details if it all works O.K.

[David]

https://www.webluke.net/2011/08/handbrake-windows-7-64-bit-dvd-ripping/

Strangely, Handbrake seemed to work on W7 64 bit for me.

Now about to test on W8.1 64 bit.

[David]

Still same fault:

"HandBrake 0.10.5.0 - 64bit Version
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 6.2.9200.0 - 64bit
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T8300 @ 2.40GHz
Ram: 4094 MB,
GPU Information:
Mirage Driver - 2.0.105.0
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT - 9.18.13.4144
Screen: 1440x900
Temp Dir: C:\Users\David\AppData\Local\Temp\
Install Dir: C:\Program Files\Handbrake
Data Dir: C:\Users\David\AppData\Roaming\HandBrake Team\HandBrake\0.10.5.0

-------------------------------------------
[11:43:20] CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T8300 @ 2.40GHz
[11:43:20] - logical processor count: 2
[11:43:20] OpenCL device #1: NVIDIA Corporation GeForce 8600M GT
[11:43:20] - OpenCL version: 1.0 CUDA
[11:43:20] - driver version: 341.44
[11:43:20] - device type: GPU
[11:43:20] - supported: no
[11:43:20] Intel Quick Sync Video support: no
[11:43:20] hb_scan: path=D:\, title_index=0
libbluray/bdnav/index_parse.c:162: indx_parse(): error opening D:\/BDMV/
index.bdmv
libbluray/bdnav/index_parse.c:162: indx_parse(): error opening D:\/BDMV/
BACKUP/index.bdmv
libbluray/bluray.c:2182: nav_get_title_list(D:\) failed
[11:43:20] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 5.0.1
libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
libdvdread: Can't open D:\ for reading
libdvdread: Device D:\ inaccessible, CSS authentication not available.
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
libdvdread: Can't open D:\ for reading
libdvdread: Device D:\ inaccessible, CSS authentication not available.
[11:43:25] scan: DVD has 21 title(s)
[11:43:25] scan: scanning title 1
[11:43:25] scan: opening IFO for VTS 10
[11:43:25] scan: duration is 01:56:59 (7019000 ms)
[11:43:25] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D78EDA0
[11:43:25] scan: vts=10, ttn=1, cells=0->61, blocks=0->2482928, 2482929
blocks
[11:43:25] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking audio 2
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x81bd, lang=Italiano (AC3), 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking audio 3
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x82bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking audio 4
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x83bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking audio 5
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x84bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 1
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x21bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 2
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x23bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 3
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x24bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 4
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x25bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 5
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x26bd, lang=Arabic, 3cc=ara ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 6
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x27bd, lang=Bulgarian, 3cc=bul ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 7
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x28bd, lang=Hrvatski, 3cc=hrv ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 8
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x29bd, lang=Greek, Modern, 3cc=ell ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 9
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x2abd, lang=Hindi, 3cc=hin ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 10
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x2bbd, lang=Islenska, 3cc=isl ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 11
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x2cbd, lang=Romanian, 3cc=ron ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 12
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x2dbd, lang=Serbian, 3cc=srp ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 13
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x2ebd, lang=Slovenian, 3cc=slv ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 14
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x2fbd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 15
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x30bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 16
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x31bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 17
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x32bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 18
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x33bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 19
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x35bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: checking subtitle 20
[11:43:25] scan: id=0x37bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:25] scan: title 1 has 28 chapters
[11:43:25] scan: chap 1 c=0->3, b=0->153307 (153308), 386480 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 2 c=4->6, b=153308->236843 (83536), 197120 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 3 c=7->7, b=236844->339593 (102750), 258760 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 4 c=8->8, b=339594->384780 (45187), 129040 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 5 c=9->11, b=384781->503007 (118227), 342600 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 6 c=12->12, b=503008->551263 (48256), 141360 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 7 c=13->15, b=551264->667174 (115911), 335160 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 8 c=16->18, b=667175->738630 (71456), 209360 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 9 c=19->19, b=738631->793864 (55234), 159960 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 10 c=20->20, b=793865->842590 (48726), 150600 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 11 c=21->21, b=842591->918446 (75856), 224120 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 12 c=22->22, b=918447->986229 (67783), 210360 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 13 c=23->25, b=986230->1100423 (114194), 336360 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 14 c=26->28, b=1100424->1194851 (94428), 294920 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 15 c=29->31, b=1194852->1307770 (112919), 304360 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 16 c=32->36, b=1307771->1377685 (69915), 200440 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 17 c=37->38, b=1377686->1447084 (69399), 202040 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 18 c=39->39, b=1447085->1547954 (100870), 285280 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 19 c=40->42, b=1547955->1602255 (54301), 158400 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 20 c=43->45, b=1602256->1685235 (82980), 232360 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 21 c=46->46, b=1685236->1816777 (131542), 321880 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 22 c=47->47, b=1816778->1879029 (62252), 191080 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 23 c=48->52, b=1879030->1947494 (68465), 185120 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 24 c=53->55, b=1947495->2060362 (112868), 282280 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 25 c=56->58, b=2060363->2133839 (73477), 200160 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 26 c=59->59, b=2133840->2233411 (99572), 284200 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 27 c=60->60, b=2233412->2295843 (62432), 165480 ms
[11:43:25] scan: chap 28 c=61->61, b=2295844->2482928 (187085), 629720 ms
[11:43:25] scan: aspect = 1.77778
[11:43:25] scan: scanning title 2
[11:43:25] scan: opening IFO for VTS 1
[11:43:26] scan: duration is 00:00:14 (14600 ms)
[11:43:26] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D78EDA0
[11:43:26] scan: vts=1, ttn=1, cells=0->1, blocks=0->4824, 4825 blocks
[11:43:26] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:26] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:26] scan: title 2 has 2 chapters
[11:43:26] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=0->4755 (4756), 13000 ms
[11:43:26] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=4756->4824 (69), 1600 ms
[11:43:26] scan: aspect = 1.77778
[11:43:26] scan: scanning title 3
[11:43:26] scan: opening IFO for VTS 2
[11:43:26] scan: duration is 00:00:35 (35000 ms)
[11:43:26] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D7900C0
[11:43:26] scan: vts=2, ttn=1, cells=0->1, blocks=0->11305, 11306 blocks
[11:43:26] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:26] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:26] scan: title 3 has 2 chapters
[11:43:26] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=0->11050 (11051), 33400 ms
[11:43:26] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=11051->11305 (255), 1600 ms
[11:43:26] scan: aspect = 1.77778
[11:43:26] scan: scanning title 4
[11:43:26] scan: opening IFO for VTS 3
[11:43:26] scan: duration is 00:00:25 (25640 ms)
[11:43:26] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D78EDA0
[11:43:26] scan: vts=3, ttn=1, cells=0->1, blocks=0->7762, 7763 blocks
[11:43:26] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:26] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:26] scan: checking subtitle 1
[11:43:26] scan: id=0x20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:26] scan: checking subtitle 2
[11:43:26] scan: id=0x21bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:26] scan: title 4 has 2 chapters
[11:43:26] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=0->7713 (7714), 24040 ms
[11:43:26] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=7714->7762 (49), 1600 ms
[11:43:26] scan: aspect = 1.77778
[11:43:26] scan: scanning title 5
[11:43:26] scan: opening IFO for VTS 11
[11:43:26] scan: duration is 00:00:05 (5000 ms)
[11:43:26] scan: ignoring title (too short)
[11:43:26] scan: scanning title 6
[11:43:26] scan: opening IFO for VTS 4
[11:43:27] scan: duration is 00:00:47 (47080 ms)
[11:43:27] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D78F8E0
[11:43:27] scan: vts=4, ttn=1, cells=0->1, blocks=0->14898, 14899 blocks
[11:43:27] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 2
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x21bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: title 6 has 2 chapters
[11:43:27] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=0->14855 (14856), 45480 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=14856->14898 (43), 1600 ms
[11:43:27] scan: aspect = 1.77778
[11:43:27] scan: scanning title 7
[11:43:27] scan: opening IFO for VTS 12
[11:43:27] scan: duration is 00:18:26 (1106320 ms)
[11:43:27] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D78E920
[11:43:27] scan: vts=12, ttn=1, cells=0->8, blocks=0->352502, 346593 blocks
[11:43:27] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 2
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x21bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: title 7 has 9 chapters
[11:43:27] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=0->53165 (53166), 173720 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=54114->89827 (35714), 123760 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 3 c=2->2, b=90646->129180 (38535), 134160 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 4 c=3->3, b=130022->166901 (36880), 117320 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 5 c=4->4, b=167722->208168 (40447), 142000 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 6 c=5->5, b=208973->273153 (64181), 189320 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 7 c=6->6, b=273995->316183 (42189), 130080 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 8 c=7->7, b=317022->352455 (35434), 94360 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 9 c=8->8, b=352456->352502 (47), 1600 ms
[11:43:27] scan: aspect = 1.77778
[11:43:27] scan: scanning title 8
[11:43:27] scan: opening IFO for VTS 12
[11:43:27] scan: duration is 00:02:55 (175320 ms)
[11:43:27] pgc_id: 2, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D78E920
[11:43:27] scan: vts=12, ttn=2, cells=0->1, blocks=0->352502, 53213 blocks
[11:43:27] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 2
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x21bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: title 8 has 2 chapters
[11:43:27] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=0->53165 (53166), 173720 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=352456->352502 (47), 1600 ms
[11:43:27] scan: aspect = 1.77778
[11:43:27] scan: scanning title 9
[11:43:27] scan: opening IFO for VTS 12
[11:43:27] scan: duration is 00:02:05 (125360 ms)
[11:43:27] pgc_id: 3, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D78E920
[11:43:27] scan: vts=12, ttn=3, cells=0->1, blocks=54114->352502, 35761
blocks
[11:43:27] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 2
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x21bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: title 9 has 2 chapters
[11:43:27] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=54114->89827 (35714), 123760 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=352456->352502 (47), 1600 ms
[11:43:27] scan: aspect = 1.77778
[11:43:27] scan: scanning title 10
[11:43:27] scan: opening IFO for VTS 12
[11:43:27] scan: duration is 00:02:15 (135760 ms)
[11:43:27] pgc_id: 4, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D78F100
[11:43:27] scan: vts=12, ttn=4, cells=0->1, blocks=90646->352502, 38582
blocks
[11:43:27] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 2
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x21bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: title 10 has 2 chapters
[11:43:27] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=90646->129180 (38535), 134160 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=352456->352502 (47), 1600 ms
[11:43:27] scan: aspect = 1.77778
[11:43:27] scan: scanning title 11
[11:43:27] scan: opening IFO for VTS 12
[11:43:27] scan: duration is 00:01:58 (118920 ms)
[11:43:27] pgc_id: 5, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D78EEC0
[11:43:27] scan: vts=12, ttn=5, cells=0->1, blocks=130022->352502, 36927
blocks
[11:43:27] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 2
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x21bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: title 11 has 2 chapters
[11:43:27] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=130022->166901 (36880), 117320 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=352456->352502 (47), 1600 ms
[11:43:27] scan: aspect = 1.77778
[11:43:27] scan: scanning title 12
[11:43:27] scan: opening IFO for VTS 12
[11:43:27] scan: duration is 00:02:23 (143600 ms)
[11:43:27] pgc_id: 6, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D78E920
[11:43:27] scan: vts=12, ttn=6, cells=0->1, blocks=167722->352502, 40494
blocks
[11:43:27] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 2
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x21bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: title 12 has 2 chapters
[11:43:27] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=167722->208168 (40447), 142000 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=352456->352502 (47), 1600 ms
[11:43:27] scan: aspect = 1.77778
[11:43:27] scan: scanning title 13
[11:43:27] scan: opening IFO for VTS 12
[11:43:27] scan: duration is 00:03:10 (190920 ms)
[11:43:27] pgc_id: 7, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D78F100
[11:43:27] scan: vts=12, ttn=7, cells=0->1, blocks=208973->352502, 64228
blocks
[11:43:27] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 2
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x21bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: title 13 has 2 chapters
[11:43:27] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=208973->273153 (64181), 189320 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=352456->352502 (47), 1600 ms
[11:43:27] scan: aspect = 1.77778
[11:43:27] scan: scanning title 14
[11:43:27] scan: opening IFO for VTS 12
[11:43:27] scan: duration is 00:02:11 (131680 ms)
[11:43:27] pgc_id: 8, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D78EDA0
[11:43:27] scan: vts=12, ttn=8, cells=0->1, blocks=273995->352502, 42236
blocks
[11:43:27] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 2
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x21bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: title 14 has 2 chapters
[11:43:27] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=273995->316183 (42189), 130080 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=352456->352502 (47), 1600 ms
[11:43:27] scan: aspect = 1.77778
[11:43:27] scan: scanning title 15
[11:43:27] scan: opening IFO for VTS 12
[11:43:27] scan: duration is 00:01:35 (95960 ms)
[11:43:27] pgc_id: 9, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D78F8E0
[11:43:27] scan: vts=12, ttn=9, cells=0->1, blocks=317022->352502, 35481
blocks
[11:43:27] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 2
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x21bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: title 15 has 2 chapters
[11:43:27] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=317022->352455 (35434), 94360 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=352456->352502 (47), 1600 ms
[11:43:27] scan: aspect = 1.77778
[11:43:27] scan: scanning title 16
[11:43:27] scan: opening IFO for VTS 5
[11:43:27] scan: duration is 00:06:40 (400160 ms)
[11:43:27] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D7900C0
[11:43:27] scan: vts=5, ttn=1, cells=0->1, blocks=0->129101, 129102 blocks
[11:43:27] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 2
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x21bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: title 16 has 2 chapters
[11:43:27] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=0->129054 (129055), 398560 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=129055->129101 (47), 1600 ms
[11:43:27] scan: aspect = 1.33333
[11:43:27] scan: scanning title 17
[11:43:27] scan: opening IFO for VTS 6
[11:43:27] scan: duration is 00:06:53 (413800 ms)
[11:43:27] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D78EDA0
[11:43:27] scan: vts=6, ttn=1, cells=0->1, blocks=0->133565, 133566 blocks
[11:43:27] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 1
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: checking subtitle 2
[11:43:27] scan: id=0x21bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:27] scan: title 17 has 2 chapters
[11:43:27] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=0->133522 (133523), 412200 ms
[11:43:27] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=133523->133565 (43), 1600 ms
[11:43:27] scan: aspect = 1.33333
[11:43:27] scan: scanning title 18
[11:43:27] scan: opening IFO for VTS 7
[11:43:28] scan: duration is 00:07:03 (423880 ms)
[11:43:28] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D78F8E0
[11:43:28] scan: vts=7, ttn=1, cells=0->1, blocks=0->136914, 136915 blocks
[11:43:28] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:28] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:28] scan: checking subtitle 1
[11:43:28] scan: id=0x20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:28] scan: checking subtitle 2
[11:43:28] scan: id=0x21bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:28] scan: title 18 has 2 chapters
[11:43:28] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=0->136871 (136872), 422280 ms
[11:43:28] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=136872->136914 (43), 1600 ms
[11:43:28] scan: aspect = 1.33333
[11:43:28] scan: scanning title 19
[11:43:28] scan: opening IFO for VTS 13
[11:43:28] scan: duration is 00:07:29 (449000 ms)
[11:43:28] pgc_id: 1, pgn: 1: pgc: 000000001D78EDA0
[11:43:28] scan: vts=13, ttn=1, cells=0->1, blocks=0->145181, 145182 blocks
[11:43:28] scan: checking audio 1
[11:43:28] scan: id=0x80bd, lang=English (AC3), 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:28] scan: checking subtitle 1
[11:43:28] scan: id=0x20bd, lang=English, 3cc=eng ext=0
[11:43:28] scan: checking subtitle 2
[11:43:28] scan: id=0x21bd, lang=Italiano, 3cc=ita ext=0
[11:43:28] scan: title 19 has 2 chapters
[11:43:28] scan: chap 1 c=0->0, b=0->144554 (144555), 447400 ms
[11:43:28] scan: chap 2 c=1->1, b=144555->145181 (627), 1600 ms
[11:43:28] scan: aspect = 1.33333
[11:43:28] scan: scanning title 20
[11:43:28] scan: opening IFO for VTS 8
[11:43:28] scan: duration is 00:00:05 (5000 ms)
[11:43:28] scan: ignoring title (too short)
[11:43:28] scan: scanning title 21
[11:43:28] scan: opening IFO for VTS 9
[11:43:28] scan: duration is 00:00:05 (5000 ms)
[11:43:28] scan: ignoring title (too short)
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
dvdnav: Can not set dvd menu, No such menu or menu not reachable.
[11:43:29] scan: decoding previews for title 1
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:29] scan: title angle(s) 1
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
[11:43:30] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:30] scan: decoding previews for title 1
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:30] scan: title angle(s) 1
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
[11:43:31] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:31] scan: decoding previews for title 2
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:31] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:32] hb_demux_ps: not a PS packet (00000000)
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading from DVD.
[11:43:32] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:32] scan: decoding previews for title 2
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:32] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:32] hb_demux_ps: not a PS packet (00000000)
[11:43:32] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:32] scan: decoding previews for title 3
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:32] scan: title angle(s) 1
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading from DVD.
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
[11:43:33] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:33] scan: decoding previews for title 3
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:33] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:33] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:33] scan: decoding previews for title 4
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:33] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:33] hb_demux_ps: not a PS packet (00000000)
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading from DVD.
[11:43:33] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:33] scan: decoding previews for title 4
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:33] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:33] hb_demux_ps: not a PS packet (00000000)
[11:43:33] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:33] scan: decoding previews for title 6
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:33] scan: title angle(s) 1
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading from DVD.
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
[11:43:34] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:34] scan: decoding previews for title 6
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:34] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:34] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:34] scan: decoding previews for title 7
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:34] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:34] hb_demux_ps: not a PS packet (00000000)
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading from DVD.
[11:43:35] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:35] scan: decoding previews for title 7
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:35] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:35] hb_demux_ps: not a PS packet (00000000)
[11:43:35] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:35] scan: decoding previews for title 8
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:35] scan: title angle(s) 1
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading from DVD.
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
[11:43:35] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:35] scan: decoding previews for title 8
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:35] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:35] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:35] scan: decoding previews for title 9
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:35] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:35] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:35] scan: decoding previews for title 9
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:35] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:36] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:36] scan: decoding previews for title 10
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:36] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:36] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:36] scan: decoding previews for title 10
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:36] scan: title angle(s) 1
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
Last error repeated 4 times
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
[11:43:36] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:36] scan: decoding previews for title 11
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:36] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:36] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:36] scan: decoding previews for title 11
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:37] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:37] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:37] scan: decoding previews for title 12
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:37] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:37] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:37] scan: decoding previews for title 12
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:37] scan: title angle(s) 1
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
Last error repeated 3 times
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
[11:43:37] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:37] scan: decoding previews for title 13
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:37] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:38] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:38] scan: decoding previews for title 13
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:38] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:38] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:38] scan: decoding previews for title 14
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:38] scan: title angle(s) 1
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
Last error repeated 2 times
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
[11:43:38] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:38] scan: decoding previews for title 14
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:38] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:39] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:39] scan: decoding previews for title 15
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:39] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:39] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:39] scan: decoding previews for title 15
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:39] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:39] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:39] scan: decoding previews for title 16
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:39] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:40] hb_demux_ps: not a PS packet (00000000)
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
Last error repeated 2 times
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading from DVD.
[11:43:40] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:40] scan: decoding previews for title 16
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:40] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:40] hb_demux_ps: not a PS packet (00000000)
[11:43:40] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:40] scan: decoding previews for title 17
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:40] scan: title angle(s) 1
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading from DVD.
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
[11:43:41] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:41] scan: decoding previews for title 17
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:41] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:41] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:41] scan: decoding previews for title 18
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:41] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:41] hb_demux_ps: not a PS packet (00000000)
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading NAV packet.
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading from DVD.
[11:43:41] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:41] scan: decoding previews for title 18
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:41] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:42] hb_demux_ps: not a PS packet (00000000)
[11:43:42] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:42] scan: decoding previews for title 19
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:42] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:42] hb_demux_ps: not a PS packet (00000000)
[11:43:42] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:42] scan: decoding previews for title 19
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00e50000. Regions: 2
4 5
[11:43:42] scan: title angle(s) 1
[11:43:42] hb_demux_ps: not a PS packet (00000000)
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading from DVD.
Last error repeated 2 times
dvdnav: Read Error, Error reading from DVD.
[11:43:42] Warning: Could not read data for preview 1, skipped
[11:43:42] libhb: scan thread found 0 valid title(s)
"

Can't read the data to allow you to chose which bits to copy.

W10 machine downloaded Kodi and installed, then pulled the DLL of the
Internet.

Perhaps I should try that next.

[Rob Morley]

On 26 Dec 2016 10:00:59 GMT

David <wib...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 05:35:20 +0000, Rob Morley wrote:
>
> > On 23 Dec 2016 18:12:26 GMT David <wib...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >

> [...]
> >
> [...]
> [...]

> >
> > The rotters. :-) It's like that "free download" that somehow
> > morphs into "sign up for your free trial period" after you've
> > clicked through several links and closed several popups.
> > Rumour has it that a keygen is readily available ...
>
> Conflicted there as well.

Understandable, but it depends how you use it - if you just use it to
try the software without the restrictions imposed by the free trial,
you can either uninstall it or pay for it after you've tested it.

>
> Feels a bit like going into a shop, thinking "Bloody hell, I'm not
> paying that much for a tin of beans!" and deciding to shop lift it
> instead.

I don't know how that feels. :-)

[Chris Ridd]

On 26/12/2016 11:48, David wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 11:41:00 +0000, David wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 11:32:06 +0000, David wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 17:52:06 +0000, Gripper wrote:
>>>
>>>> "David" wrote in message news:ec57oa...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>
>>>> "So still no real solution to DVD ripping."
>>>>
>>>> Try DVDDecrypter
>>>
>>> Looked at that, but allegedly so old it doesn't handle more recent copy
>>> protection.
>>>
>>> The newer product from the same source, Imgburn, certainly chokes on
>>> copy protection.
>>>
>>> At the moment it looks as though Usenet is being out performed by
>>> Facebook.
>>>
>>> A potential solution to get Handbrake working on W8+ is to download
>>> Kodi and copy some DLLs to allow decoding.
>>>
>>> Handbrake now seems to be working on W10 (not my machine). Will confirm
>>> with more details if it all works O.K.
>>
>>
>> https://www.webluke.net/2011/08/handbrake-windows-7-64-bit-dvd-ripping/
>>
>> Strangely, Handbrake seemed to work on W7 64 bit for me.
>>
>> Now about to test on W8.1 64 bit.
>
> Still same fault:
>
> "HandBrake 0.10.5.0 - 64bit Version

NB Handbrake 1.0.0 has just come out. Worth a try just in case...


--
Chris

[David]

MakeMKV seems to be the winner at the moment.

Not perfect (unless I have a dodgy DVD drive) but it does copy the
protected DVDs that failed with other software and the copy will play back
through VLC.

Now for the long and boring bit of working my way through the pile of DVDs.

[Vir Campestris]

On 25/12/2016 05:35, Rob Morley wrote:
> Rumour has it that a keygen is readily available ...

Ah, how ironic.

A piece of software designed to get around other people's copy
protection, and people are getting around its own copy protection :)

Andy