dual processor machine again
ajk
first thanks for peoples posts. After looking at all the sites and things
etc I can't make my mind up. Can anyone give me advice. Or tell me their
spec of machine, if roughly the same
This is what I think I might get:
Supermicro P6DBE mobo, for price
2 Pentium III 500/600/650, but which ones, coppermine?? etc
128mb ram, for now
what case, someone recommended the Supermicro SC760A case a bit pricey for
just a case
I have to put in:-
Creative Plantium sound card kit
Creative DVD encore 3 with DXR3 decoder card
Network card, can't remember what
Viper 550 pci, at moment will upgrade
I am upgrading from a pentium 200 mmx with 64mb of ram:), the reason for
upgrade is that i am going to start doing 3D animation, using 3D studio max
at moment, and i need my own machine.
Thanks
Timetex Solutions
Only 1 question - why a dual processor requirement? Going to be running
an OS that supports dual processors, I hope....(?) but is there really
a performance gain over (lets say) a cheaper mobo, better PIII chip and
more RAM?
I haven't priced the components up, but my guess is that DualCPU Mobo +
2x decent PIII chip + 128Mb RAM wouldnt be too dissimilar to a (decent)
Mobo + 1x (slightly better) PIII chip + 256Mb RAM.
Unless you are talking MAJOR rendering, in which case I can see the
advantage... but you'd still need to be running Win2k or something to
take advantage, and 128Mb RAM still wouldn't cut it.....
BTW - if you want a case recommendation, go for the Aopen HX08 (from
Dabs). Superb case to work with (I'm starting to sound like an advert).
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Before you buy.
Steve
"ajk" <a.ke...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> hi
>
> first thanks for peoples posts. After looking at all the sites and things
> etc I can't make my mind up. Can anyone give me advice. Or tell me their
> spec of machine, if roughly the same
>
> This is what I think I might get:
>
> Supermicro P6DBE mobo, for price
> 2 Pentium III 500/600/650, but which ones, coppermine?? etc
> 128mb ram, for now
> what case, someone recommended the Supermicro SC760A case a bit pricey for
> just a case
The case is rearly one of the most importants parts of any PC, some people
will gladly pay double the price for a graphics card that they will maybe
only keep for about a couple of years, then upgrade. The case will last
certainly a lot longer. So think about upgradability, addons etc. The
Supermicro case although, more expensive than most, certainly has scope for
just about anyone, with upgradability in mind.
With me it was a toss-up between the Aopen HX08 and the Supermicro. I ended
up with the Super, and no regrets. Remember, you can fit up to 8 fans
inside, (2 Sunon's fitted) a bit over the top, but necessary if you want
everything inside. I also found that fitting motherboards easier than the
Aopen case.
The only trouble if there is one, with the P6DBE mobo is the fact that it
has the somewhat older BX chipset, but very stable all the same.
Steve
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> "ajk" <a.ke...@virgin.net> wrote:
> Only 1 question - why a dual processor requirement?
He's already given you the answer. 3DstudioMax, is one of the few pieces of
software optimised for SMP and shows *huge* performance benefits from
running SMP under NT4 or W2K.
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"ajk" <a.ke...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> hi
>
> first thanks for peoples posts. After looking at all the sites and things
> etc I can't make my mind up. Can anyone give me advice. Or tell me their
> spec of machine, if roughly the same
>
> This is what I think I might get:
>
> Supermicro P6DBE mobo, for price
Here's a nice review of some other mobo options:
http://www.tomshardware.com/mainboard/00q3/000911/index.html
The MSI 694D Pro looks nice.
> 2 Pentium III 500/600/650, but which ones, coppermine?? etc
> 128mb ram, for now
Buy Mushkin PC133 revII, it's the fastest you can buy, will run at CA2 up to
160 FSB!
> what case, someone recommended the Supermicro SC760A case a bit pricey for
> just a case
I'd go for the Globalwin 802 (midi tower), plenty of depth for a dual mobo,
slide out mobo tray, space for 9 drives, space for extra 80mm colling fans
and cheaper than the alternatives at about £50 quid.
> I have to put in:-
> Creative Plantium sound card kit
> Creative DVD encore 3 with DXR3 decoder card
> Network card, can't remember what
> Viper 550 pci, at moment will upgrade
GeForce 64mb (any brand) is your power user option for rendering in MAX.
> I am upgrading from a pentium 200 mmx with 64mb of ram:), the reason for
> upgrade is that i am going to start doing 3D animation, using 3D studio
max
> at moment, and i need my own machine.
>
Like someone else said, you will need to run an OS that supports dual
CPU's - I guess if you are using MAX, then W2K is your option - but I'm sure
you already know that.
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......tril0Byte
Stuart Booth
>Only 1 question - why a dual processor requirement? Going to be running
>an OS that supports dual processors, I hope....(?) but is there really
>a performance gain over (lets say) a cheaper mobo, better PIII chip and
>more RAM?
I would TOTALLY recommend a dual processor system over a single
processor box every time as long as it's for truly multi-threaded
applications like Photoshop, and maybe Studio, I'm not too sure as
this isn't my field. Or anything where the processor is heavily CPU
bound but you still wish to continue using the machine.
At work I recently had the choice of a dual PIII-700 vs a single
PIII-933. The choice was obvious to me and I went for the dual. Last
year I built a machine at home out of 2 x Cel366@550Mhz and this
machine *creamed* a single PIII-700 for the work we were doing on it.
My field is software development and the ability for the machine to be
doing some major processing whilst you carry on working is utterly
priceless.
For playing games, then no, I wouldn't recommend it, but in this
chap's case it sounds like he'd truly benefit by being able to
realistically use his machine whilst it renders.
>I haven't priced the components up, but my guess is that DualCPU Mobo +
>2x decent PIII chip + 128Mb RAM wouldnt be too dissimilar to a (decent)
>Mobo + 1x (slightly better) PIII chip + 256Mb RAM.
For us the dual 700 was the same price as the single 933, same RAM and
basic specification.
Two smaller CPUs win over a bigger single processor as far as I'm
concerned!
Stuart
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ajk
Where else can I buy the Global Win 802 with 300W case. The only place i
have found is www.overclockers.co.uk for £74.00. Any better place
Thanks
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