WOL not working consistently

[Endulini]

Hi,

I've been trying to set up WOL on a Windows 8 system and am confident that
it's configured ok as I can confirm that the Magic Packets are getting
through and are recognised both through the internal LAN and over the
Internet (using a combination of Magic Packet software and TeamViewer). The
problem comes when I shut the system down or set it to sleep or hibernate.
Whilst I can wake it remotely for the first 20 minutes or so after this it
doesn't respond at all. I've disabled hybrid shut-down and have read that
WOL isn't supposedly supported in shut-down or sleep but even putting it in
hibernate doesn't help. It's set up with dynamic DNS so I'm also confident
that it's not due to the IP changing.

Anyone have any suggestions or comments?

Thanks.

[Rob Morley]

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:22:42 +0100
"Endulini" <Endu...@Fruit.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've been trying to set up WOL on a Windows 8 system and am confident
> that it's configured ok as I can confirm that the Magic Packets are
> getting through and are recognised both through the internal LAN and
> over the Internet (using a combination of Magic Packet software and
> TeamViewer). The problem comes when I shut the system down or set it
> to sleep or hibernate. Whilst I can wake it remotely for the first 20
> minutes or so after this it doesn't respond at all.

Is the PSU maintaining standby power for the network port?

> I've disabled
> hybrid shut-down and have read that WOL isn't supposedly supported in
> shut-down or sleep but even putting it in hibernate doesn't help.
> It's set up with dynamic DNS so I'm also confident that it's not due
> to the IP changing.
>

Have you checked the correct options in the network card's Power
Management settings?

[Endulini]

"Rob Morley" wrote in message news:20130925132719.524e2c5c@hyperion...

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:22:42 +0100
"Endulini" <Endu...@Fruit.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've been trying to set up WOL on a Windows 8 system and am confident
> that it's configured ok as I can confirm that the Magic Packets are
> getting through and are recognised both through the internal LAN and
> over the Internet (using a combination of Magic Packet software and
> TeamViewer). The problem comes when I shut the system down or set it
> to sleep or hibernate. Whilst I can wake it remotely for the first 20
> minutes or so after this it doesn't respond at all.

> Is the PSU maintaining standby power for the network port?

The green light is on when the computer is off so presumably yes it is
.

> I've disabled
> hybrid shut-down and have read that WOL isn't supposedly supported in
> shut-down or sleep but even putting it in hibernate doesn't help.
> It's set up with dynamic DNS so I'm also confident that it's not due
> to the IP changing.
>
> Have you checked the correct options in the network card's Power
Management settings?

"Allow this device to wake the computer" is selected
"Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power" is selected (is
that right?)
"Only allow a magic packet to wake the computer" is selected.

Can't see a problem here - is there anything in Power Management might
inhibit it?

[Dave Saville]

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:42:12 UTC, "Endulini" <Endu...@Fruit.com>
wrote:

> "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power" is selected (is
> that right?)
>

Wouldn't think so. If it's been turned off to save power how is it
going to wake up except by re-application of power? It ain't goning to
see any signal on the wire.

--
Regards
Dave Saville

[Rob Morley]

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:42:12 +0100
"Endulini" <Endu...@Fruit.com> wrote:
> "Rob Morley" wrote in message
> news:20130925132719.524e2c5c@hyperion...
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:22:42 +0100
> "Endulini" <Endu...@Fruit.com> wrote:
>
> > I've been trying to set up WOL on a Windows 8 system and am
> > confident that it's configured ok as I can confirm that the Magic
> > Packets are getting through and are recognised both through the
> > internal LAN and over the Internet (using a combination of Magic
> > Packet software and TeamViewer). The problem comes when I shut the
> > system down or set it to sleep or hibernate. Whilst I can wake it
> > remotely for the first 20 minutes or so after this it doesn't
> > respond at all.
>
> > Is the PSU maintaining standby power for the network port?
>
> The green light is on when the computer is off so presumably yes it is
> .

If it's on even when the machine doesn't respond then that doesn't seem
to be the problem.

> >
> > Have you checked the correct options in the network card's Power
> Management settings?
>
> "Allow this device to wake the computer" is selected
> "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power" is
> selected (is that right?)

I'd be inclined to switch that one off, but I'm only guessing and I
don't have a Windows 8 machine to play with.

[Adrian C]

In the router's configuration, as well as the port forwarding you may
have done, You might need to _statically_ assign the MAC address of the
PC's network card to the IP address used for it. This normally has to be
done in CLI, overturning the dynamic assign which is forgotton a time
after the PC powers off.

Which router?

--
Adrian C

[Adrian C]

Ah, see here.

http://talktalkmembers.com/t5/Unlimited-Broadband/HG533-Wake-on-LAN-problems/td-p/852729

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Adrian C

[Endulini]

"Adrian C" <em...@here.invalid> wrote in message
news:bamfnh...@mid.individual.net...

It's a Thomson TG587n v2 i.e. an O2 router (I know I've also posted a
question about a TalkTalk router but that's a different story.....)

[Adrian C]

On 28/09/2013 22:19, Endulini wrote:
>
> "Adrian C" <em...@here.invalid> wrote in message
>>

>> In the router's configuration, as well as the port forwarding you may
>> have done, You might need to _statically_ assign the MAC address of
>> the PC's network card to the IP address used for it. This normally has
>> to be done in CLI, overturning the dynamic assign which is forgotton a
>> time after the PC powers off.
>>
>> Which router?
>>
>> --
>> Adrian C
>>
>>
> It's a Thomson TG587n v2 i.e. an O2 router (I know I've also posted a
> question about a TalkTalk router but that's a different story.....)

Here ya go.

http://npr.me.uk/wol.html

--
Adrian C

[Endulini]

"Adrian C" <em...@here.invalid> wrote in message

news:bar87m...@mid.individual.net...

Cheers Adrian. I've seen this and used it to successfully set my router to
forward on the packets and I can see that the packets are getting through
even from the internet. What is happening though is that after the computer
has been 'asleep', powered down or 'hibernating' for longer than around 20
minutes it doesn't reboot when the magic packet is sent. It's like it's only
dozing initially and then something further powers off after 20 minutes and
stops it from rebooting.....

[Adrian C]

On 01/10/2013 23:18, Endulini wrote:
>
> Cheers Adrian. I've seen this and used it to successfully set my router
> to forward on the packets and I can see that the packets are getting
> through even from the internet. What is happening though is that after
> the computer has been 'asleep', powered down or 'hibernating' for longer
> than around 20 minutes it doesn't reboot when the magic packet is sent.
> It's like it's only dozing initially and then something further powers
> off after 20 minutes and stops it from rebooting.....

So you've done the arpadd stuff?

e.g. arpadd intf=LocalNetwork ip=192.168.1.66 hwaddr=00:00:48:8f:03:9a

Hmmm... me confused.

Look at network card properties, advanced tab - there may be other
settings there. Wake from power off, hybernate, sleep are all a
minefield of known compatibility snags existing between BIOS, APM/APCI
and OS. On some plaforms (e.g. HP Microserver) only wake from power off
is properly supported.

I've even come across slightly different implementions of the magic
packet and differing port numbers. In windows powercfg.exe reveals a lot
on current settings, and so does wireshark if you do some sniffing.

--
Adrian C

[jamesro...@gmail.com]

did you ever figure out what was stopping the PC's from responding to WOL after 20 minutes? I basically have the same issue and don't know where to start..

Thanks
James

[Adrian Caspersz]

On 10/02/16 04:39, jamesro...@gmail.com wrote:
> did you ever figure out what was stopping the PC's from responding to WOL after 20 minutes? I basically have the same issue and don't know where to start..
>

Read the rest of the original thread you've dug up.

or watch this

SOLVED: Why Wake on WAN (Wake on Internet) stops working after 15 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z7nBVb8yNA

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Adrian C