Help needed please
ConnieD.
1. Scenario:
Three house fires in an area which has narrow roads and fire engines not
being able to get through due to parking.( No one serious hurt thank
goodness)
Tonight we have had the 3rd house fire in in our local area in a few months,
and again the large fire appliances can't get through because of the car
parking on either side of the narrow roads. In some areas we have a single
yellow line which helps solves the probem of parking during the day time but
these fires have been for the most part, after 5.30pm. so each side of the
roads are blocked off to large vehicles.
I own a car myself so am not down on cars however this is getting beyond a
joke and having to expect fire fighters race up roads because they can't
reach the place with an appliance, must surely add vital seconds or minutes
in putting out any fire.
Our local fire service are wonderful chaps and chappesses but this is
something that needs to be addressed asap for all our sakes. Any advice on
how to go about trying to get this situation resolved?
2. Are there any Fire Regulations governing compulsory
extinguishers/fireblankets/smoke alarms and fire escapes, in houses which
have been converted into bedsits/flats, and have a communal entrance ?
It would be much appreciated if one of the wise amongst you could tell me
if landlords have a certain code they must implement as to the extinguishers
etc.
Hope you don't mind me butting in for advice but better to ask those who
deal with this problem than pussyfooting around with the council who doesn't
seem to care two hoots about the parking situation here.
TIA ConnieD
Co-ordinator of Memorial Quilts for Enschede Disaster
James Grove
says...
> 2. Are there any Fire Regulations governing compulsory
> extinguishers/fireblankets/smoke alarms and fire escapes, in houses which
> have been converted into bedsits/flats, and have a communal entrance ?
> It would be much appreciated if one of the wise amongst you could tell me
> if landlords have a certain code they must implement as to the extinguishers
> etc.
While i am sure the advice you get here will be good and correct,
i think you may be better of speaking or seeing a Fire Prevention
Officer from your local Fire Brigade.
A recent incident if the West Midlands where a tennant in a rented
flat fell asleep while leaving his cooker on resulting in a Kitchen
Fire, the flats were fitted with hardwired smoke alarms, but the owner
had disabled them. IS the owner liable? Yes or No, no one seems to know.
Let us know how you get on,
--
James Grove
www.planet-images.com
ja...@jamesgrove.co.uk
Andra T
requirements for HMO's. A house of multiple occupation, this is where
unrelated persons stay in a flat/house where separate self contained rooms
are held in a dwelling with shared toilet/kitchen etc. Similar to a bedsit.
Hope it helps.
http://www.housing.odpm.gov.uk/information/consult/lhmoe/02.htm
As for parking, local authorities(and car owners) all over the world don't
seem to bother about this one however they will give you a ticket in a
multi storey car park for being a minute over your time.
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John
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On the first point regarding access:
It is common for members of the public to complain about poor access due to
parked cars. In my brigade an appliance is normally sent to check it out.
Although I have never heard of any action being taken as a result of an
inspection by an appliance. If the situation is that bad and there have
been 3 incidents recently then the crews involved will be kicking up a fuss
anyway. The best you can do is contact the local station in writing and let
them know your concerns.
On the second point:
I am sure there are those far more knowledgeable than me in here, who will
tell you all about the Fire regs for HMO's.
John
ConnieD.
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> "ConnieD." <con...@fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > Hope you don't mind me asking for some help and 2 lots of advice please.
> >
> > TIA ConnieD
> > Co-ordinator of Memorial Quilts for Enschede Disaster
>
>
> On the first point regarding access:
> It is common for members of the public to complain about poor access due
to
> parked cars. In my brigade an appliance is normally sent to check it out.
> Although I have never heard of any action being taken as a result of an
> inspection by an appliance. If the situation is that bad and there have
> been 3 incidents recently then the crews involved will be kicking up a
fuss
> anyway. The best you can do is contact the local station in writing and
let
> them know your concerns.
>
> On the second point:
> I am sure there are those far more knowledgeable than me in here, who will
> tell you all about the Fire regs for HMO's.
>
> John
Thanks for the help on my 2 questions.
Update as of today: Been in touch with the local Fire Safety Officer about
the parking situation and he is going to be contacting the crew who came out
last night to attend this fire... seems that as our local firefighters were
busy checking drains for kids ( Worcester) we had a crew turn out from
Kidderminster for this fire and they are not as aware of the parking problem
as our local lot. ( Maybe one more point in our favour if we have to have
outside help who don't know the lay of the land). Also something about a
firetender needing to be within 45 metres of the fire so will be looking
into that further. I am hoping to arrange a meting between local residents ,
the council and the fire service because at the rate we are having fires
around here recently, I am convinced it is only a matter of time before
something more serious arises
About the legal requirements for extinguishers etc... called the local
council to be told that there are certain regs in place but as they do not
have a post filled with someone to go round checking on this requirement
then they do nothing about it. Again, will be finding out exactly how many
of the 600 houses are being used as bedsits/flats and present this
information to the council for action ( Sometimes the press do come in very
handy).
Letters will be written to the Fire Service and Council to see just what we
can do in getting these risks put to rights.
Thanks again for your help, and I pray that I will never need your skilled
help in the future.
Regards ConnieD.
Reader
......... me.
I speak to Council, usually meet on site. Council do a leaflet drop and
then consult. Double yellows follow shortly if problem does not reduce.
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Sam
>
> 1. Scenario:
> Three house fires in an area which has narrow roads and fire engines not
> being able to get through due to parking.( No one serious hurt thank
> goodness)
>
> Tonight we have had the 3rd house fire in in our local area in a few
months,
> and again the large fire appliances can't get through because of the car
> parking on either side of the narrow roads. In some areas we have a single
> yellow line which helps solves the probem of parking during the day time
but
> these fires have been for the most part, after 5.30pm. so each side of the
> roads are blocked off to large vehicles.
> I own a car myself so am not down on cars however this is getting beyond a
> joke and having to expect fire fighters race up roads because they can't
> reach the place with an appliance, must surely add vital seconds or
minutes
> in putting out any fire.
> Our local fire service are wonderful chaps and chappesses but this is
> something that needs to be addressed asap for all our sakes. Any advice on
> how to go about trying to get this situation resolved?
>
In my experience it is not unusual for the Officer in Charge of the fire
appliance to request the attendance of the police, who have then gone along
the street slapping parking tickets on each car (assuming that they are
actually illegally parked of course).
Sam
Sam
>
> 1. Scenario:
> Three house fires in an area which has narrow roads and fire engines not
> being able to get through due to parking.( No one serious hurt thank
> goodness)
>
> Tonight we have had the 3rd house fire in in our local area in a few
months,
> and again the large fire appliances can't get through because of the car
> parking on either side of the narrow roads. In some areas we have a single
> yellow line which helps solves the probem of parking during the day time
but
> these fires have been for the most part, after 5.30pm. so each side of the
> roads are blocked off to large vehicles.
> I own a car myself so am not down on cars however this is getting beyond a
> joke and having to expect fire fighters race up roads because they can't
> reach the place with an appliance, must surely add vital seconds or
minutes
> in putting out any fire.
> Our local fire service are wonderful chaps and chappesses but this is
> something that needs to be addressed asap for all our sakes. Any advice on
> how to go about trying to get this situation resolved?
>
In my experience it is not unusual for the Officer in Charge of the fire
Andy A
I usually find leaving the horns on in the middle of the night whilst
"jammed" gets the desired results - especially when the "punters" look out
the window and see 4 or 5 sets of grubby mitts (gently) "assisting" their
pride and joy out of the way.
The odd busted door handle (Escorts were good for this) and slightly
reshaped wings worked well too.
Plod - well, they won't be here unless its "persons" coz there's no chance
of a gong if it's not "persons"
A
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Neville Mooney
someone hanging out a blazing building in the distance, the message reads
"Big fire engines need big gaps - please park carefully" or something like
that. If we have problems we drop leaflets through doors, or put them under
wipers on our way back.
There was a story going around the other day of an angry resident who called
the Police after one of our pumps took his mirror off. When the Police
arrived they gave him and the rest of the street parking tickets before
brushing away ALL of the mirrors.
Bet the pump driver had a grin!
Cheers
NSM
tickets and gathered up all
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