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shoot 2 kill

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Jun 10, 2002, 10:02:28 AM6/10/02
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is this a exclusive problem to Hampshire ( i suspect not)

i've just finished a shift & the amount of drivers who don't know how to get
out of the way of an Ambulance on a 999 call is amazing.....

rather than pulling over & stopping, we get the ones who , yes, pull over
but carry on rolling so closing the gap with oncoming traffic / signal
islands when we over take

ones who don't bother doing anything then give you the look like we have no
right to be up their a*** with lights & noise

ones who don't see or hear you until you're past them

ones who over take us as we're speeding ( claiming an exemption of course )

blah blah blah

are Hants drivers the worst ? Any other horror stories out there?

John Morgan

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Jun 10, 2002, 10:57:25 AM6/10/02
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It's the same everywhere mate.
The problem is caused by the following
1. They dont drive to the high standard that you do, they dont have your
training.
2. You come up behind them so fast they dont see you and panic
3. They dont know what to do, no one has ever told them.

My advice,
Slow down, smile, let it go over your head, join a gym to sweat off the
stress!

Think about this,
How would they react if they knew what you were going to?
would they be keen to move out the way for a 18 year old prat who has od'd
on 4 vitamin tablets?


Relax, smile, dont let it ruin ya day!
Ta
John

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Tim Webber

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Jun 10, 2002, 12:02:09 PM6/10/02
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> are Hants drivers the worst ? Any other horror stories out there?

Ooo look there's a large white van coming towards me with lots flashing blue
lights on it and emitting some kind of weird loud siren type noise.
Never mind i'll make a right turn in front of it


Persian Drunkard

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Jun 10, 2002, 5:08:12 PM6/10/02
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The most annying ones are those that opvertake the other cars that
have pulled over for you!

They see every other vehicle in front of them suddenly slow down and
pull over simultaneously, and it seemingly does not enter their minds
that there might be a reason why.

Without checking a mirror, they just put their foot down and pull out,
right in front of you. AAAgh!


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Andy Hoppe

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Jun 10, 2002, 8:03:33 PM6/10/02
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Some people literally get high on adrenalin when encountering an ambulance
with light & sound effects turned on, so they are more likely to react
irrationally. Especially through research involving rescue services it has
been proven that adrenalin gives you a more focused, clearer mind and
improves the speed and quality of decision-making in extreme situations. For
example, you suddenly recall patient treatment procedures you had read about
a decade ago...

But if there has been no training or information stored in the brain in the
first place that could be retrieved in such a moment, the brain emits
gibberish. Therefore I agree, people need to be given clear instructions on
how to react to an emergency vehicle claiming the right of way. And if they
need more time to react to such a signal, maybe they shoudln't turn the
music all the way up, so that they can't hear anything coming in the first
place... :o)

By the way... all these problems are meant to be history anyway. That's what
they said back decades ago when they renamed the "opto-acoustic" signal
emitted by an ambulance as "audiovisual directional" signals and claimed a
new era of emergency response units' urban rapid transit had begun... ;o)

- Andy

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Steve

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Jun 11, 2002, 11:40:47 AM6/11/02
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It's about time that road users should be taught how to act when faced with
an emergency vehicle and be part of the driving test.

At least a start would be to update the reference made in the highway code.

Steve


M Glickman

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Jun 11, 2002, 1:38:47 PM6/11/02
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 16:02:09 GMT, "Tim Webber"
<t...@ccls.co.uk.pants.eu> wrote:

>Ooo look there's a large white van coming towards me with lots flashing blue
>lights on it and emitting some kind of weird loud siren type noise.
>Never mind i'll make a right turn in front of it

See? That proves it - it's the colour that's the problem. If your
vehicle was Euro-yellow, it would be a different story. No-one ever
makes a right turn in front of an ambulance in Europe.

Michael
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anon

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Jun 11, 2002, 3:46:45 PM6/11/02
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 15:57:25 +0100, "John Morgan"
<clev...@ntlworld.com> typed merrily:

>It's the same everywhere mate.
>The problem is caused by the following
>1. They dont drive to the high standard that you do, they dont have your
>training.
>2. You come up behind them so fast they dont see you and panic
>3. They dont know what to do, no one has ever told them.
>
>My advice,
>Slow down, smile, let it go over your head, join a gym to sweat off the
>stress!
>
>Think about this,
>How would they react if they knew what you were going to?
>would they be keen to move out the way for a 18 year old prat who has od'd
>on 4 vitamin tablets?
>
>
>Relax, smile, dont let it ruin ya day!
>Ta
>John
>
>
>

Good advice mate.


Chuckle and mark them out of ten for stupidity.

It's not worth getting wound up about.

Colin
UK.

John Morgan

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Jun 13, 2002, 5:19:08 PM6/13/02
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Nothing wrong with the advice in Highway code, try the people who teach
people to drive, seen many a driving instructor get it
wrong...........................
Ta
John


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Blippie

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Jun 14, 2002, 5:44:55 PM6/14/02
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>>3. They dont know what to do, no one has ever told them.

Mind you, I never quite know what to do either. I get in such a fluster by
trying NOT to make a nuisance of myself. Generally I've seen the ambulance
behind me long before the vehicles following me, and end up causing traffic
chaos.

Personally I prefer nights, you're more conspicuous, there's less traffic,
and less people to hear my botched up hospital pre-alert talk-throughs.

Cheers

Blippie
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Blippie

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Jun 14, 2002, 5:46:14 PM6/14/02
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> ones who over take us as we're speeding ( claiming an exemption of
course )

I wish we could claim as many exemptions as taxi-drivers ...

kevin Scrimshaw

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Jun 24, 2002, 9:14:17 AM6/24/02
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You are not alone I drive a big red thing with flashy lights and it happens
just the same!


Kevin
Ff West Yorks


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Blippie

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Jun 24, 2002, 6:03:09 PM6/24/02
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>You are not alone I drive a big red thing with flashy lights and it happens
>just the same!

... but a louder crash!
--

Gwoolie

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Jun 28, 2002, 8:08:39 AM6/28/02
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Here its the same in Dorset. Big white thing going like the clappers, lights
and sirens.
But we have a new toy which helps a little.......a bull horn!
This little baby makes such a racket it blows the little buggers out the
way!Even parked cars move over!! ok I made that bit up,hehe. But it does
help when used.

I also think that aswell as blue lights up high and on the front there
should be more in the middle of the ambie so car drivers see them better
when at close range, all they hear is sirens, a yellow bonnett, but with
more lights they may see us too!????

And hell may freeze over.

Anyway, drive like you stole it, make lots of noise and get there in 8 mins,
OR ELSE!!!!

Woolie


Len Stewart

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Jul 2, 2002, 3:30:47 PM7/2/02
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Gwoolie,

As the American following this newsgroup, I have to put in my 2 cents
worth....(no comments)

I have always wondered why there are so few lights on the emergency vehicles
in the UK (specifically the ambulance and fire units). ...And what is there
is either so small or so hidden that it is virtually useless.

While I like the idea (and in the US we have used similar ideas as an
extra), what is the idea to integrating the rotators into the corners of the
ambulance boxes? They would seem to be a hell of a lot less obvious hidden
in the moulding, as opposed to having a separate full roof width light bar.

Seriously, is there some reasoning behind this??

LS.

PS. I am still a US EMT with 10+ yrs experience trying to find a way to get
into the ambulance svc with out a having a UK drivers license for at least 2
years. Any help would be appreciated.


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anon

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Jul 3, 2002, 2:18:15 PM7/3/02
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Write to many ambulance services. The UK ambulance service model is
constantly evolving. All services are not the same so some may allow
you in while others don't.

Try the local or big ones first and then the others.

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:30:47 +0000 (UTC), "Len Stewart"
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Colin
UK.

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