Bad Trader: Bryan Lurring of Northern Ireland
Bungle
On 20th November I sent BL a stick of RAM, which he promised to send me
payment for, I trusted him as he seems to have had a good rep on this NG.
21st November, according to Royal Mail track and Trace, the item was
delivered and signed for, I e-mailed BL to check, he said no hadn't arrived,
but there's a postal strike on?!
He claimed to have sent the cheque anyway...........
This same story went on & on & on until 15th December, when BL sent me a
very apologetic, but self contradicting e-mail, saying he had received the
RAM that day, and would re-issue a cheque immediately....
I waited....... still no cheque....... I have on numerous occasions,
e-mailed him with no replies, posted messages on NG in case e-mail was
down.. no replies!
Tried calling his mobile number, answerphone or switched off........
At no time has BL contacted me to say RAM didn't work, or was broken on
arrival etc, etc, so he has no excuses for this amount of delay, I have all
correspondence filed, and will use it against him.
So Bryan if your reading this, I suggest you send payment to me without
delay, as of Tuesday morning a summons will be on its way to your parents,
as I believe your under 18, so parents are liable for your mistakes!
I will not be going away...... so clear your mess up now..... after all
plane fares are so cheap its tempting.........
Neil Flanigan
You may recall a similar ad I put in asking for help tracking the notorius P
Carlsen - The chase is still on, but I'm getting closer all the time.
Well this time it may be my turn to help. I live in N.Ireland, possibly near
Bryan Lurring. Firstly I suggest you try all the usuals, 192.com, looking
for other people who have traded with him etc.
Once you have found out all you can, send me his home address, and I may be
able to have a look for him...
Hope I can help
Neil
Rhodri
> Well this time it may be my turn to help. I live in N.Ireland, possibly near
> Bryan Lurring. Firstly I suggest you try all the usuals, 192.com, looking
> for other people who have traded with him etc.
he bought an Apple CD-Rom drive from me about the same time as you sent
him the Ram stick. Got the cheque, it didn't bounce, sent the CDR, no
complaints. Weird.
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Stuart Bell
> Well this time it may be my turn to help. I live in N.Ireland, possibly near
> Bryan Lurring. Firstly I suggest you try all the usuals, 192.com, looking
> for other people who have traded with him etc.
No need - just go back far enough in Deja-news. At one stage he was
asking for Mac donations for charitable purposes and flogging old Macs
at the same time. An interesting explanation, ISTR. ;-)
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Bungle
"Neil Flanigan" <nei...@mac.com> wrote in message
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> > Bryan Lurring is a bad trader.
> >
> > plane fares are so cheap its tempting.........
> >
>
> You may recall a similar ad I put in asking for help tracking the notorius
P
> Carlsen - The chase is still on, but I'm getting closer all the time.
>
> Well this time it may be my turn to help. I live in N.Ireland, possibly
near
> Bryan Lurring. Firstly I suggest you try all the usuals, 192.com, looking
> for other people who have traded with him etc.
>
> Once you have found out all you can, send me his home address, and I may
be
> able to have a look for him...
>
> Hope I can help
>
> Neil
>
Thanks for the offer Neil, I have all his details, currently trying to track
down his home number to try that, mobile never answered, I posted in this ng
in the hope of a response!
Many thanks
Paul Keeble
<nut...@btinternet.comNOSPAMPLEASE> wrote:
A friend bought a printer off Bryan over a month ago, cheque cashed
straight away, 'where is it?' emails and phone calls from both of us
ignored until last week (may possibly have been something to do with me
mentioning I have friends in Northern Ireland - which I do. Two of them
live or work quite near his address). The printer arrived this
morning... minus a power supply. So we'll be continuing our
correspondance. At best, inept.
Let us know how you get on.
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Paul
Bungle
Seem to be making some progress
Will keep you informed, thanks for all offers of help!
"Bungle" <nut...@btinternet.comNOSPAMPLEASE> wrote in message
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Bryan Lurring
It's ironic that so many Northern Irish people have offered to help you
settle my £27 debt to you when not one person in Northampton offered to help
me retrieve my £575 which, to this day, I have not got a penny back. What
does that say about the English?
Bryan Lurring
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Stuart Bell
> I know some of you guys don't like me much but you guys don't know how hard
> it is when you're sixteen and you rely on your mum to take you to the post
> office to post goods and to the bank to get cheques and cash them etc... Oh,
> and Bungle - you don't know the half of it... imagine what life is like
> without a dad... I've worked my ass off for people on these news groups over
> the past few years and most of the time I'm the one ending up out of pocket.
Then perhaps you should stop trading until you're a little older. For
your good, and for the good of the people whom you've messed about
because you can't provide a good service. Half baked excuses are, in the
long term, counter productive.
Bryan Lurring
> your good, and for the good of the people whom you've messed about
> because you can't provide a good service. Half baked excuses are, in the
> long term, counter productive.
Go on, prove me right.... You will never give me a chance to try and do
anything for God's sake.
Who are you to tell me what to do? What right do you have? This is only one
guy whom I have not been able to respond to over the past month because I
have been sitting my mock GCSE exam papers and have not been on the
internet.
So keep your petty opinions to yourself and let me get on with my life and
I'll do the same for you.
Yours,
Rhodri
> > Will keep you informed, thanks for all offers of help!
>
> It's ironic that so many Northern Irish people have offered to help you
> settle my £27 debt to you when not one person in Northampton offered to help
> me retrieve my £575 which, to this day, I have not got a penny back. What
> does that say about the English?
Nothing.
Bryan Lurring
> > settle my £27 debt to you when not one person in Northampton offered to
help
> > me retrieve my £575 which, to this day, I have not got a penny back.
What
> > does that say about the English?
>
> Nothing.
Ok, maybe you want me to spell it out for you...
Definition of caring according to the Oxford English Dictionary... 'To feel
concern for or to take an interest about'. One thing northern Irish and
Irish people in general are renowned for - a pity I can't say the same about
the English.
Definition of helpful also according to the Oxford English Dictionary ...
'to be of use or service to'. Hmmmm, doesn't quite suit the English people
now does it?
Is that any clearer for you or would you like me to put it in simpler
English terms for you?
Yours,
Stuart Bell
> It's ironic that so many Northern Irish people have offered to help you
> settle my £27 debt to you when not one person in Northampton offered to help
> me retrieve my £575 which, to this day, I have not got a penny back. What
> does that say about the English?
Your obsession with people's apparent ethnic origin says a lot about
you.
Stanley Ogden
Bryan Lurring <x...@globalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Ok, maybe you want me to spell it out for you...
>
> Definition of caring according to the Oxford English Dictionary... 'To
feel
> concern for or to take an interest about'. One thing northern Irish
and
> Irish people in general are renowned for - a pity I can't say the same
about
> the English.
>
> Definition of helpful also according to the Oxford English Dictionary
...
> 'to be of use or service to'. Hmmmm, doesn't quite suit the English
people
> now does it?
>
> Is that any clearer for you or would you like me to put it in simpler
> English terms for you?
>
> Yours,
>
> Bryan Lurring
Well theres' nothing like alienating yourself to the majority of the UK
:-)
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Rhodri
> > > does that say about the English?
> >
> > Nothing.
>
> Ok, maybe you want me to spell it out for you...
>
> Definition of caring according to the Oxford English Dictionary... 'To feel
> concern for or to take an interest about'. One thing northern Irish and
> Irish people in general are renowned for - a pity I can't say the same about
> the English.
huh?
> Definition of helpful also according to the Oxford English Dictionary ...
> 'to be of use or service to'. Hmmmm, doesn't quite suit the English people
> now does it?
based on?
> Is that any clearer for you or would you like me to put it in simpler
> English terms for you?
this is a forum for buying and selling gear, not for levelling
pathetically ludicrous comments against a few million people, half a
dozen of which have decided that being in the middle of exams isn't a
good enough excuse for reneging on a deal.
I've traded with you without any problems so I'm not blaming you in
particular, but the above is complete racist bullshit that is further
alienating people and pissing people off.
Gary Howarth
<x...@globalnet.co.uk> writes
>
>Definition of helpful also according to the Oxford English Dictionary ...
>'to be of use or service to'. Hmmmm, doesn't quite suit the English people
>now does it?
>
>Is that any clearer for you or would you like me to put it in simpler
>English terms for you?
>
Oh dear, I can see this thread getting quite long now. :-(
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Gary Howarth
<x...@globalnet.co.uk> writes
>
>Who are you to tell me what to do? What right do you have? This is only one
>guy whom I have not been able to respond to over the past month because I
>have been sitting my mock GCSE exam papers and have not been on the
>internet.
>
>So keep your petty opinions to yourself and let me get on with my life and
>I'll do the same for you.
>
Think you had better stop throwing your tantrum, and get back to your
exams, and sort these problems some people seem to be having with you
out. I seem to recall you having plenty of support in this.. and other
newsgroups in the past.
Stuart Bell
> Go on, prove me right.... You will never give me a chance to try and do
> anything for God's sake.
Actually, many of us have given you a chance, ever since the last fiasco
many moons ago.
> Who are you to tell me what to do? What right do you have? This is only one
> guy whom I have not been able to respond to over the past month because I
> have been sitting my mock GCSE exam papers and have not been on the
> internet.
You clearly have been on the 'net generating trade. Do I have to produce
deja-news listing to prove it?
> So keep your petty opinions to yourself and let me get on with my life and
> I'll do the same for you.
This is UseNet - opinions are freely expressed. If you can't cope with
that, stick to eBay.co.uk, where people can't criticise you, but they
can post feedback. That's the real test of someone's trading record.
Stuart.
Stuart Bell
> Ok, maybe you want me to spell it out for you...
>
> Definition of caring according to the Oxford English Dictionary... 'To feel
> concern for or to take an interest about'. One thing northern Irish and
> Irish people in general are renowned for
Stop generalising about different ethnic groups - it's so unscientific.
I know a lot of friendly, helpful people from N Ireland. People of those
same ethnic groups have also been known to bomb and shoot innocent
people quite indiscriminately. I also know of the odd prat from NI.
Jonathan McBrien
"Bryan Lurring" <x...@globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
> It's ironic that so many Northern Irish people have offered to help
you
> settle my £27 debt to you when not one person in Northampton offered
to help
> me retrieve my £575 which, to this day, I have not got a penny back.
What
> does that say about the English?
Bryan, that says nothing about "the English". With that statement
you've achieved nothing but to alienate yourself. In fact, your
statement says a lot about 16 year old children who can't cope with
commitments outside of their school work.
Now, get back to your books and leave the politics and bigotry to those
it suits better. Indeed, to a newsgroup which suits it better.
- Jonathan
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Decks
<x...@globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
>Definition of helpful also according to the Oxford English Dictionary ...
>'to be of use or service to'. Hmmmm, doesn't quite suit the English people
>now does it?
>
>Is that any clearer for you or would you like me to put it in simpler
>English terms for you?
Let me put in Anglo-Saxon terms for *you* ... ;)
Neil Flanigan
> Stop generalising about different ethnic groups - it's so unscientific.
> I know a lot of friendly, helpful people from N Ireland. People of those
> same ethnic groups have also been known to bomb and shoot innocent
> people quite indiscriminately. I also know of the odd prat from NI.
Well said Stuart. It is pointless to discriminate a whole community if one
person happened to make a mistake. (But then I would say that since I'm from
N. Ireland!)
On a more serious note however, I suggest that since Bryan has contacted the
appropriate traders, everyone (including myself) should stop posting
messages which stereotypes certain regions in the UK, and start posting
messages related to selling/buying computing equipment on this newsgroup.
That's why we all use this normally useful newsgroup isn't it?
Personally, although I consider posts regarding good/bad traders useful, I
feel that this one has gone a little too far, and has consequently strayed
from it's original use intention.
I hope both Bryan and Bungle manage to sort out all their problems, along
with anybody else who may have had some kind of prejudice against Bryan for
whatever reason.
Neil
Bryan Lurring
> particular, but the above is complete racist bullshit that is further
> alienating people and pissing people off.
I agree that it was racist, yes. Don't get me wrong - there are a lot of
very decent guys out there who have helped me out in the past manys of times
but there are still those few who just don't want to know and start saying
even worse things about me just because I am from Northern Ireland.
Personally I hate that because I know that NI does not have a good
reputation in most other countries in the world because of the troubles but
I am neither one side or the other and I think that the way that the people
fight here is uncalled for. But what most people don't see is that most of
the people in the province are just normal people who want to go about their
normal everyday business like everyone else in the world. There's just a few
bad apples set to cause trouble for everyone else.
And, just because I am 16 I shouldn't be treated any different from anyone
else. As Rhodri has said I purchased a CDROM unit from him a month or so ago
without any problems and I'm sure you could find countless others to tell
you that this is simply a one off case which has now been sorted out.
> Your obsession with people's apparent ethnic origin says a lot about
> you.
I am not racist, in fact, my best friend is from pakistan. I was simply
getting my point across which I have explained above and I hope now that
people who are very narrow minded about this country understand my opinions.
> In fact, your
> statement says a lot about 16 year old children who can't cope with
> commitments outside of their school work.
It's alright for you to say that, but you aren't be and you do not know what
else I have had to deal with over this past year so give it a rest mate.
So let's just all get back to doing whatever it is that we were doing before
this crap.
Robert Davies
> > Will keep you informed, thanks for all offers of help!
>
> It's ironic that so many Northern Irish people have offered to help you
> settle my £27 debt to you when not one person in Northampton offered to
help
> me retrieve my £575 which, to this day, I have not got a penny back. What
> does that say about the English?
WTF????
You reckon that's an acceptable analogy? And people are to take your word
that you've had "so many Northern Irish people offer to help you"...
somehow, I don't think so!!! Making effectively racist remarks to the
majority audienceis no way to drum up business in any part of the world.
BTW - The fact you had your mock GCSEs means jack all I'm afraid. You seem
to have time for the internet elsewhere, an are only deluding yourself if
you reckon you've had your head in your textbooks for 16hrs a day for a
whole month. If you're too busy to deal with any possible problems from a
trade / sale - you shouldn't be carrying them out. I'm currently slaving my
butt off to get my undergraduate dissertation wrapped up before my
deadline - so what? At the end of the day, if things go awry on a deal, if
ParcelFarce smash it up etc., then you've still got to spend a few minutes
doing the paperwork, rather than having a half hour break to watch The
Simpsons.....
Rob
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Robert Davies
> I agree that it was racist, yes. Don't get me wrong - there are a lot of
> very decent guys out there who have helped me out in the past manys of
times
> but there are still those few who just don't want to know and start saying
> even worse things about me just because I am from Northern Ireland.
> Personally I hate that because I know that NI does not have a good
> reputation in most other countries in the world because
> of the troubles but..........
......... but that ain't an an excuse.... or an apology.........
> And, just because I am 16 I shouldn't be treated any different
> from anyone else.
You're quite correct. All people, whatever their age, with a similar
immature attitude will elicit the same response.
Ray Quinn
> I know a lot of friendly, helpful people from N Ireland. People of those
> same ethnic groups have also been known to bomb and shoot innocent
> people quite indiscriminately. I also know of the odd prat from NI.
Is this uk.adverts.computer ??
Sounds more like ni.politics
Your posts may be welcome there..
I've dealt with Bryan and he is a good guy .. never any probs..
Bryan Lurring
> that you've had "so many Northern Irish people offer to help you"...
> somehow, I don't think so!!!
If you'd actually taken the time to read my post correctly you'd understand
that so many people offered to help mr bungle, not me... get your facts
right next time mate.
> Making effectively racist remarks to the
> majority audienceis no way to drum up business in any part of the world.
Tell that to the rest of the world
It wasn't supposed to be a darn apology. I ain't apologising for anything
since I've just had to pay £60 for something which should have cost £30 due
to the underperformance of Royal Mail.
Like I said before.... the matter has now been sorted so lets just let it
drop... ok?
kickabout
Robert Davies <r.j.l....@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> BTW - The fact you had your mock GCSEs means jack all I'm afraid. You seem
> to have time for the internet elsewhere, an are only deluding yourself if
> you reckon you've had your head in your textbooks for 16hrs a day for a
> whole month. If you're too busy to deal with any possible problems from a
> trade / sale - you shouldn't be carrying them out. I'm currently slaving
my
> butt off to get my undergraduate dissertation wrapped up before my
> deadline - so what? At the end of the day, if things go awry on a deal, if
> ParcelFarce smash it up etc., then you've still got to spend a few minutes
> doing the paperwork, rather than having a half hour break to watch The
> Simpsons.....
It's probably more likely that he wasn't allowed near his computer - dreaded
parents.
Bryan Lurring
dreaded
> parents.
Excellent prognosis Dr. Kickabout. I've given up on trying to explain myself
because every time I do some other asshole decides drive the nail in
further.
Yours,
David Williams
> I've dealt with Bryan and he is a good guy .. never any probs..
I'd agree, dealt with Bryan myself and would happily do so again.
Cheers,
Dave
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Stuart Bell
> It wasn't supposed to be a darn apology. I ain't apologising for anything
[snip]
> Like I said before.... the matter has now been sorted so lets just let it
> drop... ok?
Sorted without an apology? Really?
Stuart Bell
> I've dealt with Bryan and he is a good guy .. never any probs..
And that proves what?
Apart from the real crooks, the difference between a good and bad trader
is probably that the former has 99%+ satisfied customers, and the latter
has 90%. If you're in the 90% that's no consolation to the disenchanted
10%.
This thread is only being maintained by Bryan inventing half-baked
excuses instead of admitting that he got something wrong. His racist
comments didn't help. . . . . .
Bryan Lurring
> excuses instead of admitting that he got something wrong. His racist
> comments didn't help. . . . . .
You don't know when to quit, do you?
If people like you didn't keep slagging me off then I wouldn't have to
respond and attempt to explain myself.
Huw Evans
couple of mistakes, it certainly doesn't sound like he was intent on robbing
anyone and it may have been a bad move mentioning "ethnic origins" He's 16,
how old are you lot slagging him off?
Huw
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In article <94l40a$mha$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Bryan Lurring"
Stuart Bell
> > This thread is only being maintained by Bryan inventing half-baked
> > excuses instead of admitting that he got something wrong. His racist
> > comments didn't help. . . . . .
>
> You don't know when to quit, do you?
>
> If people like you didn't keep slagging me off then I wouldn't have to
> respond and attempt to explain myself.
You don't get it, do you?
_You're_ the one wanting the thread to stop, but you keep perpetuating
it.
I have no personal interest in it stopping or not.
But the more messages there are, and the longer you keep bitching, the
more incriminating stuff they're be on deja-news for the next year.
Stuart Bell
> For Christ's sake give this lad a break! he may or may not have made a
> couple of mistakes, it certainly doesn't sound like he was intent on robbing
> anyone and it may have been a bad move mentioning "ethnic origins" He's 16,
> how old are you lot slagging him off?
46 tomorrow, actually. :-(
If he'd just admit that he treated one punter badly, and apologise, the
thread would die. It's his excuses and his blaming of other people and
personal circumstances that perpetuate it.
PS This is my last post on this thread. OK?
MM
>couple of mistakes, it certainly doesn't sound like he was intent on
robbing
>anyone and it may have been a bad move mentioning "ethnic origins" He's 16,
>how old are you lot slagging him off?
Yes.. I agree...
He's not a bad person..
There are plenty of scumbags out there who deserve a hard time,
(luckily not on this ng), like the guy who ripped him off for £575.
He may appear to have been a bit lapse with some of his deals,
but I don't think he is out to rip anyone off.
He probably should not have made the comment about the English,
but I'm sure he's a bit pissed off having being ripped off by one.
Give a guy a break..
R
Jon Green
<x...@globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Rhodri wrote:
>
> > In fact, your
> > statement says a lot about 16 year old children who can't cope with
> > commitments outside of their school work.
>
> It's alright for you to say that, but you aren't be and you do not know what
> else I have had to deal with over this past year so give it a rest mate.
This is a trading newsgroup. The only important fact about anyone here
is that they are interested in either buying or selling, and the only
personal history that's relevant is whether they're a good or a bad
trader. Sob-stories are likely to earn you contempt, not sales, and
they're only ever likely to read as excuses, since no-one here can
corroborate them.
Be a good trader (whatever your personal circumstances) and be well
received; be a bad trader (whatever the reason), and you will be
vilified. That's how it works. If you want to open your heart over
your past sorrows, try alt.support.depression.teens. (This is not, by
the way, being sarcastic.)
Sorry to sound hard-hearted, but, whether or not you realise it, you're
making a pretty big twit of yourself. Believe it or not, I'm trying to
save you from making things even worse.
Jon
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Jon Green
<x...@globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > It's probably more likely that he wasn't allowed near his computer -
> dreaded
> > parents.
>
> Excellent prognosis Dr. Kickabout.
ITYM "diagnosis". Prognosis is a prediction of a patient's future
health based upon their present circumstances.
Paul
Stuart Bell <maca...@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> 46 tomorrow, actually. :-(
Sales Office
Stuart Bell wrote:
46 tomorrow, actually. :-(
Happy Birthday ! :-))
Peter
Peter & Rita Forbes
Prepair Ltd
Luton, UK
email: pre...@easynet.co.uk
Stuart Bell
> Happy Birthday!
'Thank you' to both well-wishers.
Apologies to the pedants who will complain that I promised no more
postings to this thread. ;-)
Nigel J. Carron
>If people like you didn't keep slagging me off then I wouldn't have to
>respond and attempt to explain myself.
You slagged yourself off with that pathetic racist comment.. And your
inability to apologise heaps petrol on the flames..
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Ray Quinn
>health based upon their present circumstances.
Excellent diagnosis Dr.Green ;)
Jon Green
Revd. Green, actually. Bless you, my son, for you have sneezed.
Ray Quinn
Ahh... we have a rev'd..
surely you don't want spammers to die..
more work for you !
Although if I remember correctly,
it does say somewhere in the bible (in the back I think),
that "if thy spams, thy is excommunicated immediately".
so no christian burial..
Jon Green
<N0Squin...@utvinternet.com> wrote:
> >Revd. Green, actually. Bless you, my son, for you have sneezed.
> >Spammers: please die now and improve the mass-average IQ level.
>
> Ahh... we have a rev'd..
Indeed, an ordained Minister of the Universal Life Church, and I've the
certificate to prove it.
(Check out http://www.ulc.org/ for details -- and no, it's not a nutty
cult. Well, not fanatical anyway. *grin*)
> surely you don't want spammers to die..
> more work for you !
Before or after? *nasty chuckle*
> Although if I remember correctly,
> it does say somewhere in the bible (in the back I think),
> that "if thy spams, thy is excommunicated immediately".
> so no christian burial..
Nope. Cremation usually works _much_ better.
Pre- or post-mortem is a matter left to the enforcer's conscience.
Jon (getting woefully off topic for thread and newsgroup! Sorry!)
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Bryan Lurring
> He probably should not have made the comment about the English,
> but I'm sure he's a bit pissed off having being ripped off by one.
> Give a guy a break..
Over the time I've spent trading on this newsgroup I've lost £575, nearly
lost £262 but got that back, and I've also lost a Philips mobile phone. So
you can imagine how I felt.
I know there's only a few people out there willing to rip people off and I'm
sorry for the comments I made earlier but as you can imagine I was just a
*little* pissed off...
Bryan Lurring
> health based upon their present circumstances.
Thanks for the correction, but hey.... it sounded good at the time
Aaron Whiffin
thread ...
Every trade from a NG involves some form of trust, and some people are
untrustworthy.
If you make a trade you should ensure you can cope with losing your goods or
cash, the deal is between two people, and two people only. NOT between you
and everyone else in the country.
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"Bryan Lurring" <x...@globalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > > It's ironic that so many Northern Irish people have offered to help
you
> > > settle my £27 debt to you when not one person in Northampton offered
to
> help
> > > me retrieve my £575 which, to this day, I have not got a penny back.
> What
> > > does that say about the English?
> >
> > Nothing.
>
> Ok, maybe you want me to spell it out for you...
>
> Definition of caring according to the Oxford English Dictionary... 'To
feel
> concern for or to take an interest about'. One thing northern Irish and
> Irish people in general are renowned for - a pity I can't say the same
about
> the English.
>
> Definition of helpful also according to the Oxford English Dictionary ...
> 'to be of use or service to'. Hmmmm, doesn't quite suit the English people
> now does it?
>
> Is that any clearer for you or would you like me to put it in simpler
> English terms for you?
nut
> > Will keep you informed, thanks for all offers of help!
>
> It's ironic that so many Northern Irish people have offered to help you
> settle my £27 debt to you when not one person in Northampton offered to
help
> me retrieve my £575 which, to this day, I have not got a penny back. What
> does that say about the English?
I've traded without problem with you before... but if you wanna have a poke
at my nationality we're quickly going to fall out.
Rowland McDonnell
> Hello again guys,
>
> I know some of you guys don't like me much but you guys don't know how hard
> it is when you're sixteen and you rely on your mum to take you to the post
> office to post goods and to the bank to get cheques and cash them etc...
How can I put it: you're bullshitting obviously. Noo-one over the age
of 18 months can possibilbly believe your obvious lies made for the
purposes of ripping you off and conning money out of honest folk.
>[snip]
> PS - Exams are stressful enough without having this to deal with too.
[snip]
Tough shit. You clearly dishonest attempt to get the sympathy vote has
vailed dismally. I believe nothing you say based on the fact that you
have lied through your teeth in the past.
Rowland.
(btw, sue me if you disptute my claims - you have your day in court.
You'd lose)
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> > Then perhaps you should stop trading until you're a little older. For
> > your good, and for the good of the people whom you've messed about
> > because you can't provide a good service. Half baked excuses are, in the
> > long term, counter productive.
>
> Go on, prove me right.... You will never give me a chance to try and do
> anything for God's sake.
You make false claims, you fail to suppy good paid for (payment cannot
be taken until despatch). You're a shady dealer at best; and
straightforward crook at wordt. Non-one in their right mind would do
business wih you: you're a rip-off merchant, end of story. Say what you
will - he evidence is against you.
> Who are you to tell me what to do? What right do you have? This is only one
> guy whom I have not been able to respond to over the past month because I
> have been sitting my mock GCSE exam papers and have not been on the
> internet.
>
> So keep your petty opinions to yourself and let me get on with my life and
> I'll do the same for you.
The thing is that yuour life involves fraud and theft - criminal
offences if you ask me. Youre dropppinng yourself further into the shit
with each post. Just kepp quiet
Rowland.
Bryan Lurring
> (btw, sue me if you disptute my claims - you have your day in court.
> You'd lose)
Wanna bet?
Rowland McDonnell
Rowland McDonnell
> > Will keep you informed, thanks for all offers of help!
>
> It's ironic that so many Northern Irish people have offered to help you
> settle my £27 debt to you when not one person in Northampton offered to help
> me retrieve my £575 which, to this day, I have not got a penny back. What
> does that say about the English?
'Irish'? 'English'? - it says to me that you're a racist, nationalist
bigot.
Put it like this: look at my surname. Where do *you* think it comes
from? I'm a mongrel same as the rest of the human race.
Stuart Bell
> Put it like this: look at my surname. Where do *you* think it comes
> from?
A dyslexic Big Mac lover?
(Sorry - if you ask rhetorical questions like that, you must expect
silly answers.)
Rowland McDonnell
> Rowland McDonnell <real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet> wrote:
>
> > Put it like this: look at my surname. Where do *you* think it comes
> > from?
>
> A dyslexic Big Mac lover?
>
> (Sorry - if you ask rhetorical questions like that, you must expect
> silly answers.)
S'okay. Silly answers I like. Just so long as you don't confuse me
with the fat kid from Grange Hill, I'll be happy.
Ronald
(looking for his ludicrous frizzy wig and big red boots)
Mark McIntyre
> Put it like this: look at my surname. Where do *you* think it comes
> from?
Without trying to be funny, I've met native Australians, Americans and
Indians all with Mc... surnames, not to mention people descended from
slaves- it was not uncommon for slaves to be named after their owner,
or locals to take "english" names because they wanted to "fit in".
Your name could be from anywhere.
By the way, I'm from Scotland.
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Rowland McDonnell
> > It's probably more likely that he wasn't allowed near his computer -
> dreaded
> > parents.
>
> Excellent prognosis Dr. Kickabout. I've given up on trying to explain myself
> because every time I do some other asshole decides drive the nail in
> further.
[snip]
Explanations can't work. If you want a decent reputation, start
behaving in a decent fashion - that's all.
Anyone who claims that he's not behaved like a complete arsehole from
time to time is lying - we've all done it. If you're a genuine bloke,
stop pratting about and just get on with behaving decently - if you want
to, that is. Some people make a life-time career out of con-artistry.
You might be one such person - and nothing you *say* can influence any
intelligent, well-informed person's opinion of you in this area. So
stop trying to talk your way out of it - it cannot work.
The thing is that once you have any kind of reputation for dodgy dealing
- and someone posting under the name Bryan Lurring has picked up that
reputation - it's *VERY* hard to shift it, as you've discovered. Some
of us have very long memories. (I'm still working on grudges from the
early 1970s, for example. Harlan Ellison is even worse than me - last
thing I heard, he was still working on grudges from the 1930s...)
And I'm having trouble with the idea that I'm posting this drivel to a
newsgroup (uk.adverts.computer.mac) where this kind of post is very,
*very*, *VERY* firmly off-charter - I know, because I was careful to
write the charter that way...
I make no excuses, now or ever.
Rowland.
[FU set]
Rowland McDonnell
> Rowland McDonnell <real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet> wrote:
>
> > Put it like this: look at my surname. Where do *you* think it comes
> > from?
>
> Without trying to be funny, I've met native Australians, Americans and
> Indians all with Mc... surnames,
The 'Mc' prefix always *derives from Ireland*, being the Irish Gaelic
form of the Scottish Gaelic 'Mac' - 'son of'.
Anyone with a 'Mc' name has a *name which derives from Ireland* - it's
where that *form of name* came from. I'm talking purely about
*language* here. It's where *all* such names have their origin - how
any given person happens to have got such a name is a different matter.
Such names all originate in Irish Gaelic, and that's that - of course
the world is full of people with 'Mc' names with no obvious 'racial'
connection with Ireland - but so what?
(Rowland McDonnell works out to 'mean' `fame of the land, son of the
great chief/world leader/similar' - good, eh? ;-) For those interested
in name 'meanings' - well, I've got another two names, one of which is
'James' - and what does that mean, hmm?[1])
> not to mention people descended from
> slaves- it was not uncommon for slaves to be named after their owner,
> or locals to take "english" names because they wanted to "fit in".
> Your name could be from anywhere.
No, it comes from Ireland - all such names *derive* from Ireland. I'm
English myself - but my surname is Irish. That's all. Quite where in
the world I was born and given the name is *irrelevant* (Hertfordshire
if you must know) - the name itself comes from Ireland. I'm trying to
make a purely linguistic point.
(I happen to know which particular ancestor of mine brought the name
over to England from Ireland, but that's not really the point. I also
happen to know about my French, Scottish, and Welsh ancestors up to a
point[2] - but again, so what? I'm just another mongrel who was born
and raised in England)
> By the way, I'm from Scotland.
Well, Scotland got its name from the Scots tribe which invaded from
Ireland...
The *main* point I'm trying to make is that we're all mongrels so all
racism is plain bloody stupid.
Rowland.
[1] One interpretation is that it comes from Jacob, a Hebrew name which
can apparently mean 'deceiver' - so don't believe a word I say.
[2] The more I look into my family history, the more I get amazed that
any of them stayed in one place long enough to give birth, let alone
raise a family... Even now, most of my relatives that I know about just
can't stay in one place for more than about 3 days at a time. Hell,
I've only met one of my Yorkshire relatives - he was in London, visiting
from Australia...
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> > I know some of you guys don't like me much but you guys don't know how
hard
> > it is when you're sixteen and you rely on your mum to take you to the
post
> > office to post goods and to the bank to get cheques and cash them etc...
I am 17 and dont have a problem doing any of that.
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Chris Hunter
real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
>Bryan Lurring <x...@globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> > It's probably more likely that he wasn't allowed near his computer -
>> dreaded
>> > parents.
>>
>> Excellent prognosis Dr. Kickabout. I've given up on trying to explain myself
>> because every time I do some other asshole decides drive the nail in
>> further.
>
>[snip]
>
>Explanations can't work. If you want a decent reputation, start
>behaving in a decent fashion - that's all.
>
[snip]
There comes a point where responding on Sunday to a post made the previous
Tuesday becomes tediously like sticking the boot in for the sake of
continuing a thread that on Friday looked as if it was almost on the point
of fading away.
I'm not disputing the proposition that BL is an arsehole - it's just that
there's no need to get so cross, especially somewhat belatedly (just back
from the pub?), so as to prolong this thread just to get another public
swipe in.
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Bryan Lurring
Yea, but at 17 - you CAN drive a car yourself! At 16, you can't. I have to
rely on my mum and public transport to get me around.
See my point of view now?
Stuart Bell
> There comes a point where responding on Sunday to a post made the previous
> Tuesday becomes tediously like sticking the boot in for the sake of
> continuing a thread that on Friday looked as if it was almost on the point
> of fading away.
Well said - let it die. Please.
Bryan had stopped proliferating the thread, then a weekend came along. .
Rhodri
> > I am 17 and dont have a problem doing any of that.
>
> Yea, but at 17 - you CAN drive a car yourself! At 16, you can't. I have to
> rely on my mum and public transport to get me around.
>
> See my point of view now?
Bryan, if you must rise to the bait carry the thread on, at least change
the subject line or something. Not doing yourself any favours in the big
Usenet filing cabinet in the sky.
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Rhodri
> For those interested
> in name 'meanings'
nope.
Ian J Hill
> > I am 17 and dont have a problem doing any of that.
>
> Yea, but at 17 - you CAN drive a car yourself! At 16, you can't. I have to
> rely on my mum and public transport to get me around.
>
> See my point of view now?
>
> Yours,
>
> Bryan Lurring
ok here we go.....
In my job I have to travel for 2 1/.2 hours on the bus 5 days a week...
means I go out at 7-45 am and get home at 6-45 pm... Post Offices are of
course closed.
I believe that you will find that a few people will testify that they got
what I offered for sale recently with no problems.... so yours is just
plain laziness boy!!!
Not only that but you asked me about a couple of laptops in October.. I
mailed you some piccies .. didn't even have the decency to respond back..
thank god!!!
Go away.. get a job get a life and when your old enough to deal with day to
day stuff.. like long hours and working then you can beef about your current
predicament?? is it called imalazygititis??
IanJH
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>but if you wanna have a poke
>at my nationality we're quickly going to fall out.
I was gonna say I never poke the English - but........................
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Bryan Lurring
Like I said before, I'll let it die when everyone else does!
Bob Cousins
<x...@globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> I am 17 and dont have a problem doing any of that.
>
>Yea, but at 17 - you CAN drive a car yourself! At 16, you can't. I have to
>rely on my mum and public transport to get me around.
>
>See my point of view now?
Yes, what you are saying is that you are not in a position to be able
to provide a good trading service.
Which is what was complained about.
QED.
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Bryan Lurring
> Yes, what you are saying is that you are not in a position to be able
> to provide a good trading service.
You guys obviously only have half a brain then.
Chris Hunter
"Bryan Lurring" <x...@globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> Well said - let it die. Please.
>
>Like I said before, I'll let it die when everyone else does!
>
Stop stoking the fires you moron.
*plonk*
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Bob Cousins
<x...@globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Yes, what you are saying is that you are not in a position to be able
>> to provide a good trading service.
>
>You guys obviously only have half a brain then.
I think as someone else succintly put it, "life doesn't owe you a
living". We seemed to have grasped that.
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Bryan Lurring
You're the moron here mate. If you'd stop pumping the bellows there would be
no fire!
Rhodri
> > Stop stoking the fires you moron.
>
> You're the moron here mate. If you'd stop pumping the bellows there would be
> no fire!
<mischief>
sorry, what was that?
</mischief>
Stuart Bell
> Like I said before, I'll let it die when everyone else does!
Like I said before, it's in your interests for this to die, and no one
elses'. The more you respond, the more messages will be on deja-news to
discourage any one from ever trading with you again.
Stop responding and everyone will get bored and go away.
Keep replying, and the baiting will continue.
Bryan Lurring
Put another way, "keep baiting and the replying will continue" I have no
objection for these messages to go on Deja News whatsoever.
Rhodri
> > Keep replying, and the baiting will continue.
>
> Put another way, "keep baiting and the replying will continue" I have no
> objection for these messages to go on Deja News whatsoever.
planning to change yr name by deed poll, then?
Gavin Page
or winding up
Gavin
Bryan Lurring
> Please, can we let this thread die, Mr Lurring is not worth responding to
> or winding up
You have no right to judge me. You have never met me. You have never
contacted me in any way before. You do not know me.
You are simply going by what other people who are also complete strangers to
me are saying.
Ron Pelley
> > Please, can we let this thread die, Mr Lurring is not worth responding to
> > or winding up
>
> You have no right to judge me. You have never met me. You have never
> contacted me in any way before. You do not know me.
>
> You are simply going by what other people who are also complete strangers to
> me are saying.
>
> Bryan Lurring
Or as one of Harry Enfield's characters (Kevin?) says, "Oh it's sooo
unfair!"
Great thread.
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DME
>It's ironic that so many Northern Irish people have offered to help you
>settle my £27 debt to you when not one person in Northampton offered to help
>me retrieve my £575 which, to this day, I have not got a penny back. What
>does that say about the English?
And the Peace process falters once more.
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>I am not racist, in fact, my best friend is from pakistan. I was simply
>getting my point across which I have explained above and I hope now that
>people who are very narrow minded about this country understand my opinions.
Of course you're Racist Bryan....You've proved it.
Having a hysterical 'pop' at a whole Race of people is Usenet suicide.
Blaming it on Age, Exams, Mother, Father, Nasty English People just
doesn't wash. There's lots of people here with major Life problems
who just get on with it.
I suggest you tackle one thing at a time until you can cope with ....lets
face it... a not too challenging newsgroup.
BTW. Being Racist isn't exclusively about the skin.
Mark McIntyre
real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
>Mark McIntyre <ma...@garthorn.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Rowland McDonnell <real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet> wrote:
>>
>> > Put it like this: look at my surname. Where do *you* think it comes
>> > from?
>>
>> Without trying to be funny, I've met native Australians, Americans and
>> Indians all with Mc... surnames,
>
>The 'Mc' prefix always *derives from Ireland*, being the Irish Gaelic
>form of the Scottish Gaelic 'Mac' - 'son of'.
Utter tosh. Its spelt Mhic or Mhac and until hte english came along,
we didn't even write it down.
And I'm Scots. My name is Mhic an Tsaiore.
Lets be frank. Mc or Mac is an Anglicisation of a Gaelic word. Whether
you're scots or irish cannot be concluded from it.
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Stuart Bell
> > Please, can we let this thread die, Mr Lurring is not worth responding to
> > or winding up
>
> You have no right to judge me. You have never met me. You have never
> contacted me in any way before. You do not know me.
I never met Hitler, nor we we ever in contact, but I can make a fair
judgement about him from the evidence available to me.
You make the same argument repeatedly, but its logic is fatally flawed.
Stuart Bell
> I have explained fully the problem and sent proof that the cheque was sent
> to Bungle on the 6th of December
Hold on! For the first time I've just read really carefully what you
posted.
According to the original complainant, he sent you the RAM on 20th
November.
So, it took more than two weeks for you to send the cheque, and yet
you're bleating about being complained about?