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Paradox 4.5 DOS Database problems in Novell 3.12

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Lorrin Moore

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Jan 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/12/99
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Hello,

I'm not sure if this is an application problem or an OS problem, but I'm
installing a five user license server.exe on a Dell Poweredge server, to be
swapped with our 50 user license server.exe once it is up. I've installed
the minimum patches and the logins, drive mappings, and file creation and
manipulation work fine in DOS, Win95, 98 and NT4. Settings for both servers
are as identical as possible. The problem occurs when I try to manipulate a
database file within paradox. The application reports not enough drive
space. Script creation is fine. Editor use is unaffected. I can even copy
tables. But posting records and even form and report design is not possible
due to insufficient disk space. DriveSpace() returns 0. There is currently
6.20GB free on the volume.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Lorrin Moore

Slava Litvinenko

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Jan 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/12/99
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Just idea:
I had simular problem with WinFax 8.0. It's report "Not enough drive space"
on some operations if your free space more than 2GB. Try to install your
Paradox on disk partition less than 2GB

Slava Litvinenko

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Bob Stubbs

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Jan 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/12/99
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Lorrin:

The problem resides around the amount of hard disk space that Paradox
sees is available. Such drive sizes were unheard of when Paradox was
produced. There is, however, a way around it. Find a program called
lesspace.com (search for it on www - if you can't find it, let me
know) and then change your startup icon to call a batch file rather
than the paradox executable. In that batch file, you'll load
lesspace, then call Paradox, and then unload lesspace (that will be
executed, of course, after Paradox ends).

I'm sure that the version of lesspace.com that you'll find initially
will be the freeWare version - it loads s-l-o-w-l-y and says if you
get the "real" version, the artificial slowness will be removed.

HTH.

Bob

Steve Green

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Jan 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/12/99
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Lorrin Moore wrote:

> But posting records and even form and report design is not possible
> due to insufficient disk space. DriveSpace() returns 0. There is currently
> 6.20GB free on the volume.

You need lesspace.com for any drive over 2 gig.. well known issue, actually..
you can download lesspace.zip from our web site.. read the included docs..

--
Steve Green
Corel CTech - Paradox
Diamond Software Group, Inc.
Waldorf, Maryland USA

http://www.diamondsg.com <- please note our new web site
Gre...@DiamondSG.com <- and my changed e-mail address

wy...@ibm.net

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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Quick, cheap solution: Limit any user of Pdox45 to 2 GIG via Syscon. It will not
affect their ability to view/save typical information loads, but will give Pdox
the upper limit it expects.

Lorrin Moore wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm not sure if this is an application problem or an OS problem, but I'm
> installing a five user license server.exe on a Dell Poweredge server, to be
> swapped with our 50 user license server.exe once it is up. I've installed
> the minimum patches and the logins, drive mappings, and file creation and
> manipulation work fine in DOS, Win95, 98 and NT4. Settings for both servers
> are as identical as possible. The problem occurs when I try to manipulate a
> database file within paradox. The application reports not enough drive
> space. Script creation is fine. Editor use is unaffected. I can even copy

> tables. But posting records and even form and report design is not possible


> due to insufficient disk space. DriveSpace() returns 0. There is currently
> 6.20GB free on the volume.
>

Lorrin Moore

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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Yea, figured that out already. The utility that the thread spoke about
didn't work (possibly bad download) and it seemed like the quickest
solution. But eventually
ownership of files is going to exceed 2gigs by certain users. Will I have
to re-establish those accounts, or will upping the space limit solve the the
eventual problem?

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Bob Stubbs

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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Lorrin:

PMFJI.

What didn't work about the utility - lesspace.com, right? It's worked
fine for my client's with exactly this type of problem.

Bob

Lorrin Moore

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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I load paradox with the following batch file

LESSPACE /D >lesspace.log
PARADOX -extk 16000
LESSPACE /U

Drivespace() returns 0

On completion of the batch (quitting paradox and attempting to unload
lesspace) the screen says

C:\Program Files\P45>LESSPACE /U
LESSPACE - ! EVALUATION copy ! - (c) 1998 M.Kennedy - V 2.2 . . . . .
.
An active LESSPACE has NOT been located !!!. [Please press F1]

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Steve Green

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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wy...@ibm.net wrote:

> Quick, cheap solution: Limit any user of Pdox45 to 2 GIG via Syscon. It will not
> affect their ability to view/save typical information loads, but will give Pdox
> the upper limit it expects.

Wrong again <smile>.. for the 2 gig limit, use lesspace.com.. there are other side
issues that the syscon angle will *not* fix, but lesspace will..

Steve Green

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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Lorrin Moore wrote:

> Yea, figured that out already. The utility that the thread spoke about
> didn't work (possibly bad download) and it seemed like the quickest
> solution. But eventually
> ownership of files is going to exceed 2gigs by certain users. Will I have
> to re-establish those accounts, or will upping the space limit solve the the
> eventual problem?

If you've got a bunch of 2 gig tables, you should be using a client/server
setup, not a desktop database..

Steve Green

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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Lorrin Moore wrote:

> I load paradox with the following batch file
>
> LESSPACE /D >lesspace.log
> PARADOX -extk 16000
> LESSPACE /U
>
> Drivespace() returns 0
>
> On completion of the batch (quitting paradox and attempting to unload
> lesspace) the screen says
>
> C:\Program Files\P45>LESSPACE /U
> LESSPACE - ! EVALUATION copy ! - (c) 1998 M.Kennedy - V 2.2 . . . . .
> .
> An active LESSPACE has NOT been located !!!. [Please press F1]

Obviously, lesspace did not load..

Bob Stubbs

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Jan 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/28/99
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Howdy again,

The lesspace.txt says that when the "lesspace /d" is used, lesspace is
not loaded. You might try without it.

Other than that, it's the same batch file I put together for my
client.

Bob

Bob Stubbs

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Jan 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/28/99
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Howdy:

Pls see my response over in the uiuc.sw.paradox ng.

Bob

Lorrin Moore

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Jan 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/28/99
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Thanks,

For some reason (I think just to see what was going on) I had the debugger
on when *apparently* I didn't need it.

Lorrin

Michael Kennedy

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Jan 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/29/99
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Thanks to Steve, Bob, and Everybody for helping out here. (I was off the air
for a few days <yipee !!!>).

Hopefully removal of the the "/D" fixed the problem !!!.

- Mike

PS: a brief alert to anyone running DOS apps into Unix servers (Sun ?). Some
drivers (in the clients) do not supply valid drive pecs to DOS (and
therefore to lesspace, etc), and therefore lesspace "does not work". For
evidence, run "lesspace /d", and check the Sectors/Cluster values. If
they're 0, we've problems - see if you can get a better driver !!!!. M.


Ian Cowan

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Feb 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/10/99
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Lorrin

I think you need lesspace....

Try searching newgroup in dejanews for 'lesspace' to find where you
can download lesspace,zip


HTH

Ian C

[snip]

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