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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) create unmoderated newsgroup uk.net.news.porkie-pies

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allen

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Jan 27, 2002, 3:36:46 PM1/27/02
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
create unmoderated newsgroup uk.net.news.porkie-pies

Newsgroups line
uk.net.news.porkie-pies A place for uk.* untruths

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
UK-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup uk.net.news.porkie-pies

*** ALL DISCUSSION MUST TAKE PLACE IN UK.NET.NEWS.CONFIG or
uk.net.news.management***

This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Further procedural details are given below.

Posted to
uk.net.news.config, uk.net.news.management, uiuc.rha.allen, uk.misc


Follow ups to
uk.net.news.config, uk.net.news.management


Rationale uk.net.news.porkie-pies

To make the public more aware of porkie-pies variety and content.

Charter uk.net.news.porkie-pies

porkie-pies, past present and future. Official porkie-pies from commitee
members and uk voting members

Advertising

Advertising is forbidden, with these exceptions:

Suppliers of goods and services relevant to amateur porkie-pies
manufacturers in the UK
may post an invitation to visit their web site or request details.
It should be of four lines or fewer and not posted more than once
every 3 months. The subject line should begin "ADVERT: ",
except for vacancy adverts, when it should begin "JOB: ".

Binaries & Formatting

Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are
forbidden. Such material belongs on a web or FTP site to which
a pointer may be posted. Cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP)
may be used where authentication is important and should be as
short as possible.


Posts must be readable as plain text. HTML, RTF and similarly
formatted messages are prohibited. To see how to make some
common newsreaders comply with this, read
<http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html>.

Warning


Anyone posting contrary to this charter may be reported to the
public healt inspectors and/or Service Provider.

Proponent
allen <al...@allen.as>

Distribution

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
uk.net.news.config, uk.net.news.management, uiuc.rha.allen, uk.misc
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Allen
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Pandinus imperator

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Jan 27, 2002, 4:40:33 PM1/27/02
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Thank you for being so expedient, Allen.

I support the concept of this new group, and can envisage many benefits arising
from the formation of it.

P.I.

allen

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Jan 27, 2002, 5:08:36 PM1/27/02
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I'll take that aboard and if a second RFD is neccessary will include it.

Allen

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Lou Weinbaum

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Jan 27, 2002, 5:29:32 PM1/27/02
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Being of the Jewish persuasion, I could not find it within myself to agree with
your call for the formation of any group which includes pork products.
Therefore I will not be concerned in any discussions regarding the sausage or
pork pie groups.
I wholeheartedly endorse your call for the group" uk.net.news.porkie-pies"; it
sounds like a first class idea.

Lou Weinbaum

Sweely

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Jan 28, 2002, 9:30:16 AM1/28/02
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"Lou Weinbaum" <lwei...@hotmial.com> wrote in message
news:gb%48.38933$Ph2.6...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...

> allen <al...@allen.as> wrote:
> > REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
> > create unmoderated newsgroup uk.net.news.porkie-pies
>
> Being of the Jewish persuasion, I could not find it within myself to agree
with
> your call for the formation of any group which includes pork products.
> Therefore I will not be concerned in any discussions regarding the sausage
or
> pork pie groups.

Perhaps we need a group such as uk.net.news.sausages.kosher to be inclusive
of the jewish faith. I would support the creation of a group like that.

> I wholeheartedly endorse your call for the group"
uk.net.news.porkie-pies"; it
> sounds like a first class idea.
>
> Lou Weinbaum

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Sweely


Sweely

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Jan 28, 2002, 9:35:50 AM1/28/02
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"allen" <al...@allen.as> wrote in message news:3C5464DE...@allen.as...

Splendid idea! I support the creation of this group, and would post to it.

Sweely


allen

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Jan 28, 2002, 11:36:42 AM1/28/02
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Will this require a seperate RFD perhaps Mr Berrows or Mr Lindsey would
like to comment.

Perhaps it could be included in the voting procedure as an addendum ?

Allen

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Sweely

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Jan 28, 2002, 1:46:33 PM1/28/02
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"allen" <al...@allen.as> wrote in message news:3C557E1A...@allen.as...

> Will this require a seperate RFD perhaps Mr Berrows or Mr Lindsey would
> like to comment.

That's a good question. I would assume that it would, but perhaps a new RFD
could be created for the new sub-hierarchy of uk.net.news.sausages.* . I
would think there could be several possibilities for discussion of diverse
topics like sausages-vegan, sausages-condiments, sausages-casings, etc...


> Perhaps it could be included in the voting procedure as an addendum ?
>
> Allen

There is definitly a need for some guidance on how to best procede with
these RFD's.

Frank F. Urter

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Jan 28, 2002, 2:54:46 PM1/28/02
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allen <al...@allen.as> wrote:
>Will this require a seperate RFD perhaps Mr Berrows or Mr Lindsey would
>like to comment.
>
> Perhaps it could be included in the voting procedure as an addendum ?
>
>Allen

I believe that 2 seperate groups would be more appropriate.

Members of the Jewish faith are banned from the ingestion of pork products by
virtue of their faith.

There are those alive today who would not drive a Mercedes Benz, nor eat a
Bierwurst for very personal reasons.
I do not wish to turn this post into a Fawlty Towers sketch, nor eloborate too
much on this particular issue. I am sure that anyone with a modicum of
intelligence would be capable of reaching a conclusion about which particular
issue I am referring to.

I would therefore support the formation of a specific group
"uk.net.news.sausages.kosher" should anyone post a RFD for the formation of
that specific group.

I cannot irrefutably state that I would post to it, but should the group be far
reaching enough to encompass recipes for "Lutkas", which I find a good
accompaniment to sausages of any variety, then I may be tempted to join in
those discussions.

Frank F. Urter

allen

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Jan 28, 2002, 4:27:36 PM1/28/02
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I think the items you mention would definitely be on topic.

The kosher RFD will be posted later

Allen

Sweely wrote:
>
>
>
> That's a good question. I would assume that it would, but perhaps a new RFD
> could be created for the new sub-hierarchy of uk.net.news.sausages.* . I
> would think there could be several possibilities for discussion of diverse
> topics like sausages-vegan, sausages-condiments, sausages-casings, etc...
>

Sweely

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Jan 28, 2002, 5:32:41 PM1/28/02
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"allen" <al...@allen.as> wrote in message news:3C55C248...@allen.as...

> I think the items you mention would definitely be on topic.
>
> The kosher RFD will be posted later
>
> Allen

I'm not sure I explained my thoughts well enough, or possibly you simply
didn't understand what I was saying, or both are possible. I was suggesting
that newsgroups be created for each of the topics, after all there are
vegetarians who would not want to be in the same group as meat eaters,
people who create caseless sausages that wouldn't want to sift through posts
about sausage casings, some people don't like any condiments on their
sausages and would be horrified to discuss condiments in the same group as
sausages. Along with the problems of kosher/non-kosher you have other
preferences like beef verses veal or lamb, etc... I could envision separate
newsgroups for all these varied tastes. Some example group names would be:

uk.net.news.sausages.veal
uk.net.news.sausages.pork
uk.net.news.sausages.caseless
uk.net.news.sausages.fish
uk.net.news.sausages.fowl
uk.net.news.sausages.roadkill

Hence the need for an RFD to create a new sub-hierarchy
[uk.net.news.sausages.*].

I hope that makes my suggestion clearer to understand.

Regards,
Sweely

allen

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Jan 28, 2002, 6:20:41 PM1/28/02
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The RFDs for this will be issued tomorrow

Hope this meats your requirements

Allen

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Tony Davison

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Jan 29, 2002, 9:08:18 AM1/29/02
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Can we just have an RFD for uk.top.posters.here.only


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Tony (Big Tone) Davison
daviso...@ntlworld.com

allen

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Jan 29, 2002, 10:19:36 AM1/29/02
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Sounds a good idea mate

Sweely

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Jan 29, 2002, 10:32:54 AM1/29/02
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Top suggestion IMO!

"allen" <al...@allen.as> wrote in message news:3C56BD88...@allen.as...

Dave J.

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Jan 29, 2002, 12:58:27 PM1/29/02
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In MsgID <3c569be9...@news.ntlworld.com> inside of
uk.net.news.config, 'Tony Davison' told us :

>Can we just have an RFD for uk.top.posters.here.only

There already is, it's called alt.usenet.kooks but top posters never
read charters so the fuckers won't stay there.


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Dave Johnson : req...@freeuk.com

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