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Ellen Brewer

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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My nephew in MA came up with this.

>>Did you know it was illegal for a monster to enter city limits of Urbana
>>Illinois. Circa 1900. What provoked your forefathers to make such a law?

So I did a quick search on AltaVista for "urbana NEAR monster".

All these web sites have exactly the same text:

It is against the law for a monster to enter the corporate limits of
Urbana, Illinois.

http://www.dailey.demon.co.uk/fun-laws.html
http://www.wj.net/rborek/strange.html
http://www.main.com/~anns/other/humor/sillylaws.html
http://users.massed.net/~mahren/dumblaws.html
http://freunde.imperium.de/gansel/law-e.htm


http://www.himolde.no/~christm/english/lover.htm has
Urbana: No monster may enter the corporate limits.

http://www.iowa-counties.com/humor/itsthelaw.htm has
Urbana: It is against the law for a monster to enter the corporate limits.

Is this true, or just another urban legend?
--
Ellen Brewer (e-br...@uiuc.edu)
"Non ignara mali, miseris succurrere disco."

Stuart Laird

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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Interesting. I forwarded your post to Esther Patt (e-
pa...@staff.uiuc.edu), who serves on the Urbana City Council. I'll be
curious to see her response!

- Stuart

In article <70lmpd$qsr$1...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, e-br...@staff.uiuc.edu
says...


> My nephew in MA came up with this.
>
> >>Did you know it was illegal for a monster to enter city limits of Urbana
> >>Illinois. Circa 1900. What provoked your forefathers to make such a law?
>
> So I did a quick search on AltaVista for "urbana NEAR monster".
>
> All these web sites have exactly the same text:
>
> It is against the law for a monster to enter the corporate limits of
> Urbana, Illinois.

[snip]

Andrew Ho

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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Hello,

EB>It is against the law for a monster to enter the corporate limits of
EB>Urbana, Illinois.

I sleep better every night knowing that any monster entering Urbana will be
at best a lawbreaker.

On a related note, what defines a monster, anyway? Green, hard scales
thicker than 1/2 inch? Big fangs on a biped?

Humbly,

Andrew

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Andrew T. Freeman

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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On 21 Oct 1998, Ellen Brewer wrote:
> Urbana: It is against the law for a monster to enter the corporate
limits.

>
> Is this true, or just another urban legend?


It has to be true, I saw it on MTV!

Mario Medina

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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It's also in the standard Unix fortune file. I don't know where it came from.

Mario


Ellen Brewer (e-br...@staff.uiuc.edu) wrote:
>My nephew in MA came up with this.
>
>>>Did you know it was illegal for a monster to enter city limits of Urbana
>>>Illinois. Circa 1900. What provoked your forefathers to make such a law?
>
>So I did a quick search on AltaVista for "urbana NEAR monster".
>
>All these web sites have exactly the same text:
>

> Urbana: It is against the law for a monster to enter the corporate limits.
>
>Is this true, or just another urban legend?

>--
>Ellen Brewer (e-br...@uiuc.edu)
>"Non ignara mali, miseris succurrere disco."

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mrjo...@uiuc.edu

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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What about monster slices? After 11pm? There was a monster on that
billboard on green street for awhile.


matt

> Humbly,

> Andrew


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David Young

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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I've heard that what they meant by ``monster'' might have been
a ``circus freak''.

Is this (was this) really a law?

Dave

KC Smith

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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Andrew Ho (ag...@students.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: Hello,
:
: EB>It is against the law for a monster to enter the corporate limits of

: EB>Urbana, Illinois.
:
: I sleep better every night knowing that any monster entering Urbana will be
: at best a lawbreaker.
:
: On a related note, what defines a monster, anyway? Green, hard scales
: thicker than 1/2 inch? Big fangs on a biped?

"Owns a motorcycle and wants to date your daughter"?

- KC "gotta know your target audience.." Smith

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ck

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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I wonder if my significant other's ex-wife is aware of this law...

Ellen Brewer wrote:

> My nephew in MA came up with this.
>
> >>Did you know it was illegal for a monster to enter city limits of Urbana
> >>Illinois. Circa 1900. What provoked your forefathers to make such a law?
>

> So I did a quick search on AltaVista for "urbana NEAR monster".
>
> All these web sites have exactly the same text:
>

> It is against the law for a monster to enter the corporate limits of

Joel_Plutchak

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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In article <70lmpd$qsr$1...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> e-br...@staff.uiuc.edu (Ellen Brewer) writes:
>My nephew in MA came up with this.
>
>>>Did you know it was illegal for a monster to enter city limits of Urbana
>>>Illinois. Circa 1900. What provoked your forefathers to make such a law?
>
>So I did a quick search on AltaVista for "urbana NEAR monster".
>
>All these web sites have exactly the same text:
>
>It is against the law for a monster to enter the corporate limits of
>Urbana, Illinois.
>
>http://www.dailey.demon.co.uk/fun-laws.html
>http://www.wj.net/rborek/strange.html
>http://www.main.com/~anns/other/humor/sillylaws.html
>http://users.massed.net/~mahren/dumblaws.html
>http://freunde.imperium.de/gansel/law-e.htm
>
>
>http://www.himolde.no/~christm/english/lover.htm has
> Urbana: No monster may enter the corporate limits.
>
>http://www.iowa-counties.com/humor/itsthelaw.htm has
> Urbana: It is against the law for a monster to enter the corporate limits.
>
>Is this true, or just another urban legend?

An officemate actually called somewhere in the city government
recently to confirm the rumor. Apparently, it was a law on the
books for quite some time, but the law was done away with sometime
releatively recently (my memory fails me, but I think it happened
sometime in the past 20 years or so).

Melissa S. Muckenhirn

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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Ellen Brewer (e-br...@staff.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: My nephew in MA came up with this.

:
: >>Did you know it was illegal for a monster to enter city limits of Urbana
: >>Illinois. Circa 1900. What provoked your forefathers to make such a law?
:

Apropos that this comes up right before the election! Politicians
may certainly fit some definitions of "monster." Hmmm, lawyers, too.

--
Melissa


Stuart Laird

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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In article <Pine.SOL.3.96.981021...@ux9.cso.uiuc.edu>,
ag...@students.uiuc.edu says...
> Hello,

>
> EB>It is against the law for a monster to enter the corporate limits of
> EB>Urbana, Illinois.
>
> I sleep better every night knowing that any monster entering Urbana will be
> at best a lawbreaker.

Don't you mean "at beast a lawbreaker."?

- S

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Geoff Raye

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Andrew Ho <ag...@uiuc.edu> wrote:
>EB>It is against the law for a monster to enter the corporate limits of
>EB>Urbana, Illinois.
>
>I sleep better every night knowing that any monster entering Urbana will be
>at best a lawbreaker.
>
>On a related note, what defines a monster, anyway? Green, hard scales
>thicker than 1/2 inch? Big fangs on a biped?

Well, at my residence in Urbana, the house 0f 'leet, we had kobolds
inhabiting the basement. Unfortunately, we weren't really equipped to deal
with them, and Hunsinger didn't want to help. As such, sure, the monsters
were in violation of the law, but it was a situation of salutory neglect if
I ever saw one.

Fortunately, they never really like to come up to the surface.

Geoff

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Jason R. Heimbaugh

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Ellen Brewer <e-br...@staff.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>>>Did you know it was illegal for a monster to enter city limits of Urbana
>>>Illinois. Circa 1900. What provoked your forefathers to make such a law?
>
>So I did a quick search on AltaVista for "urbana NEAR monster".
>
>All these web sites have exactly the same text:
>
>It is against the law for a monster to enter the corporate limits of

There was no mention in the University of Illinois' Law Library copy of the
1980 Ordinances of the City of Urbana or in the included ammendments (so it
was gone by then.) The Urbana Free Public Library has a 1872 version printed
in 1899:

<quote>
STATUTES

For the Incorporation of Cities and Villages, Act of April
10th, 1872, the following of which is an index or
Digest so far as seem appropriate and useful.

[...]

CHAPTER II

AMUSEMENTS.

SECTION--
1. Classification of amusements.
2. License for, required.
3. Licenses and fees.
4. How license obtained.
5. License subject to ordinances in force.
6. Entertainments prohibited where liquors sold.
7. Indecent plays.

Section 1. For the purpose of providing for the licens-
ing of theatricals, show, amusements, and all public exhi-
bitions for gain, the same are hereby divided into three
classes, which shall be known as first, second and third
class, viz :

First. Entertainments of a regular or dramatic or op-
eratic character and negro minstrels, given in theaters or
opera houses, shall be known as entertainments of the first
class.

Second. Concerts or other musical entertainments,
public readings, exhibitions of painters and statuary, per-
formance of feats of jugglery, sleight-of-hand or necro-
mancy, exhibitions of natural or artificial curiosities, vari-
ety shows, and other entertainments of every kind and
character not mentioned in this section, which may be given
in theaters, opera houses or public halls, shall be known
as entertainments of the second class.

Third. Circuses, menageries, caravans, hippodromes,
side-shows and concerts, minstrel or musical entertainments
given under a canvas, exhibitions of freaks of nature or
monsters, and all exhibitions that may be given in the open
air or under a canvas, not herein specifically mentioned,
shall be known as entertainments of the third class.

Sec. 2. No person or persons shall give any entertain-
ment mentioned in this chapter, within the corporate limits
of the city, for gain, without a license therefor, first had
and obtained from the City Clerk, under the corporate seal,
under a penalty of not less than ten dollars nor more than
two hundred dollars for each offense. Provided, that for
concerts, exhibitions, musical entertainments, lectures or
dramatic entertainments given by or for some lodge, associ-
ation, society or church, or entertainments for charitable
purposes, no license shall be required.

Sec. 3. Each license shall express on its face for what
it is granted, and the time for which it is granted, and the
following fees shall be charged for each license granted,
and shall be paid to the City Clerk in advance by the per-
son, persons, or corporations apllying for such license, viz :

First. For entertainments of the first class, the sum
of three dollars for a single exhibition or performance ; for
two exhibitions, five dollars ; for three exhibitions, seven
dollars ; for six exhibitions, twelve dollars, and for more
than six exhibitions the sum of two dollars for each exhibi-
tion thereover.

Second. For entertainments of the second class, the
sum of two dollars for each exhibition or performance.

Third. For entertainments of the third class, the fol-
lowing sums shall be paid as license fee : For each three-
ringed circus, or menagerie, or circus and menagerie com-
bined, or hippodrome, the sum of twenty-five dollars per
day ; for each two-ringed circus or menagerie, or circus and
menagerie combined, or hippodrome, the sum of ff fifteen dol-
lars per day ; for each one-ringed circus or menagerie, or
circus and menagerie combined, or hippodrome, the sum of
ten dollars per day ; for each side show with any circus,
menagerie or hippodrome, five dollars per day. For each
concert, musical or minstrel show or entertainment given
under canvas, the sum of three dollars per day for each day.
For any other entertainment of the third class not herein
specified, the sum of two dollars per day for each and every
day shall be paid.

Sec. 4. Any person desiring a license for any of the
purposes specified in this chapter shall make a written
application therefor to the City Clerk, stating for what
purpose, and the time said license is desired, the place
where such entertainment is to be held, and shall accom-
pany the same with the license fee, and the City Clerk shall
issue such license to such person or persons for the time the
same shall be paid for in advance, which said license shall
also be signed by the Mayor.

Sec. 5. Every license granted under the provisions of
this chapter shall be subject to the ordinances of the city
existing when the same shall be issued, or which shall
thereafter be passed so far as the same shall apply.

Sec. 6. No person shall be allowed to give any concert,
musical entertainment, dramatic or variety show, or enter-
tainment of any kind or character, in any licensed saloon
or places where intoxicating liquors are sold, or in any
place the entrance to which shall be through a saloon.
Any person violating this section shall be subject to a pen-
alty of not less than ten dollars nor more than two hundred
dollars for each violation.

Sec. 7. No license shall be granted for, or if granted
the same shall not be held to authorize the enacting or per-
formance of any indecent or lewd plays, exhibitions or
entertainments of any kind or character whatsoever; and
any person giving, exhibiting or taking part in any such
play, exhibition, performance or entertainment, shall be
subject to a penalty of not less than ten dollars nor more
than two hundred dollars.
</quote>

So, our forefathers only required the purchase of a license for monsters
to be used for gain, not charity. If only the forefathers of Sunnydale, CA
had been so proactive.

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Tom Mary Dobrowolsky

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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ra...@obscurity.net (Geoff Raye) writes:

>Well, at my residence in Urbana, the house 0f 'leet, we had kobolds
>inhabiting the basement. Unfortunately, we weren't really equipped to deal
>with them, and Hunsinger didn't want to help. As such, sure, the monsters
>were in violation of the law, but it was a situation of salutory neglect if
>I ever saw one.

>Fortunately, they never really like to come up to the surface.


When I lived at the house now formerly known as the Screaming Meadows,
it was rumored that kuo-toa lived in the basement...for the humidity
was high enough [1]. I'd never seen one, though, but it was always
a royal pain to have to fight off the Soh-Cah-Toa - with a special
three-sided weapon, of course - on my way to my room.

/lw


[1] A newt escaped from my tank and wandered the basement for nearly
6 hours without dessicating. I found her next to toilet, covered with
spiderwebs. So I rinsed her off and put her back in the tank. (This
story always makes the Rev. Thomas Insel chuckle in a sincerely
amused manner)
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KC Smith

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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Tom Mary Dobrowolsky (lw...@jaka.ece.uiuc.edu) wrote:

: ra...@obscurity.net (Geoff Raye) writes:
:
: >Well, at my residence in Urbana, the house 0f 'leet, we had kobolds
: >inhabiting the basement. Unfortunately, we weren't really equipped to deal
: >with them, and Hunsinger didn't want to help. As such, sure, the monsters
: >were in violation of the law, but it was a situation of salutory neglect if
: >I ever saw one.
:
: >Fortunately, they never really like to come up to the surface.
:
:
: When I lived at the house now formerly known as the Screaming Meadows,
: it was rumored that kuo-toa lived in the basement...for the humidity
: was high enough [1]. I'd never seen one, though, but it was always
: a royal pain to have to fight off the Soh-Cah-Toa - with a special
: three-sided weapon, of course - on my way to my room.

The SohCahToa isn't a monster. SohCahToa is a great Indian Princess!

- KC, wondering if anyone else knows what we're referring to. Best
damn professor I ever had, what taught me that.

willis sean timothy

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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KC Smith (kcs...@cm.math.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: The SohCahToa isn't a monster. SohCahToa is a great Indian Princess!

:
: - KC, wondering if anyone else knows what we're referring to. Best
: damn professor I ever had, what taught me that.

Mnemonic-like devices for remembering trig functions, yes?

sean

KC Smith

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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willis sean timothy (stwi...@ews.uiuc.edu) wrote:

Yep. That was the best math class I ever took. Mr. Leschensky,
Glenbard South High School. Aww jeah.

Charley Kline

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Oct 25, 1998, 2:00:00 AM10/25/98
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KC Smith (kcs...@cm.math.uiuc.edu) wrote:
> The SohCahToa isn't a monster. SohCahToa is a great Indian Princess!

The squaw on the hippopotamus is equal to the sons of the squaw on the
other two hides?

Jason R. Heimbaugh

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fyi: I added this to http://www.urbanlegends.com/legal/urbana_monsters.html
if anyone ever needs to debunk this in the future.

Geoff Raye

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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Tom Mary Dobrowolsky <lw...@jaka.ece.uiuc.edu> wrote:
<Soh-Cah-Toa snipped>

>[1] A newt escaped from my tank and wandered the basement for nearly
>6 hours without dessicating. I found her next to toilet, covered with
>spiderwebs. So I rinsed her off and put her back in the tank. (This
>story always makes the Rev. Thomas Insel chuckle in a sincerely
>amused manner)

And now, de Bono[1][2] will perform Tom's day!

|------| |------| |------|
|@...).| |<.@.).| |<...@.|
|......| |......| |......|
|......+ |......+ |......+
|------| |------| |------|

The tank is empty. Do you want to put something in? [yn] n

|------| |------| |------|
|<...).| |<...).| |<...).|
|.....@| |......| |......|
|......+ |.....@+ |.....@-
|------| |------| |------|

The door resists.
The door opens.

|------| |------| |-----| |------| |-----|
|<...).| |<.....| |...:#| |<.....| |...@#|
|......| |......| |.....| |......| |.....|
|......@# |......-##-@....| |......-##-.....|
|------| |------| |-----| |------| |-----|

You stumble into a spider web.
d - a newt called Ella

|------| |-----|
|<...).| |..."@|
|......| |.....|
|......-##-.....|
|------| |-----|

What do you want to dip into the sink? d
You rinse off the newt called Ella.

|------| |-----| |------| |-----| |------| |-----|
|<...).| |..."#| |<...).| |..."#| |<...@.| |..."#|
|......| |.....| |......| |.....| |......| |.....|
|......-##-.@...| |.....@-##-.....| |......-##-.....|
|------| |-----| |------| |-----| |------| |-----|

The tank is empty. Do you want to put something in? [yn] y
You put the newt called Ella into the tank.

|------| |-----| |------| |-----| |------| |-----|
|<..@).| |..."#| |<@..).| |.....| |@...).| |.....|
|......| |.....| |......| |.....| |......| |.....|
|......-##-.....| |......-##-.....| |......-##-.....|
|------| |-----| |------| |-----| |------| |-----|

There will be no return! Still climb? [yn] y

Geoff

[1] Appearing Monday nights at the Courtyard Cafe.
[2] Okay, so it wasn't really de Bono.

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