metasynth crashing

rladd

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Dec 5, 2010, 7:28:05 PM12/5/10

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Hi. I got Metasynth a couple of weeks ago. I'm extremely happy with
it: it is an amazingly inspiring instrument. However, it is constantly
crashing. Crashes happen mostly when I tried to load a synthesizer in
the image synthesizer room, and they are so frequent that I'm finding
difficult to work in that part of the instrument at all. I'm not sure
if I'm doing anything wrong. Do others experience this as well? If
anybody out there knows what to do about the problem...

Edward Spiegel

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Dec 5, 2010, 7:44:51 PM12/5/10

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Hi,

I am sorry to hear that you are experiencing crashes. These are generally pretty rare. Can you tell me more precisely what you are doing when you get the crashes -- i.e. are you changing samples used by a multisampler or sampler while it is previewing.

How are you changing the instrument when it crashes? If you could give a recipe, it might give me an idea as to why this is happening for you.

What audio output hardware do you use?

What OS version?

What computer are you running it on?

Anything else that might be relevant?

Best,
Edward

rladd

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Dec 5, 2010, 8:50:25 PM12/5/10

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Hi,

thanks for responding. I'm using OS 10.6.5 on a MacBook Pro with an
Apogee Duet. I think I was changing the instrument without stopping
playback in the image synth room. When I did it, particularly with the
granular synth, the program promptly crashed. I just noticed it might
have been this because in the last hour or so I've been systematically
changing instruments but stopping playback before doing it, and I
haven't experienced a single crash. Is it possible that this was the
reason? In any case, I'll let you know if it keeps happening
(hopefully not, because I'm planning to transfer most of the work on a
project I'm developing to Metasynth). Best,

Reinaldo

MitchY

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Dec 6, 2010, 1:57:12 AM12/6/10

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Experiencing the exact same thing.
Makes it a pretty unworkable situation.

Op 6 dec 2010 02:50 schreef "rladd" <rela...@gmail.com>:

Hi,

thanks for responding. I'm using OS 10.6.5 on a MacBook Pro with an
Apogee Duet. I think I was changing the instrument without stopping
playback in the image synth room. When I did it, particularly with the
granular synth, the program promptly crashed. I just noticed it might
have been this because in the last hour or so I've been systematically
changing instruments but stopping playback before doing it, and I
haven't experienced a single crash. Is it possible that this was the
reason? In any case, I'll let you know if it keeps happening
(hopefully not, because I'm planning to transfer most of the work on a
project I'm developing to Metasynth). Best,

Reinaldo

On Dec 5, 7:44 pm, Edward Spiegel <espiegel...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> At 4:28 PM -0800 12/5/10, rladd ...

Edward Spiegel

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Dec 6, 2010, 2:13:24 AM12/6/10

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At 7:57 AM +0100 12/6/10, MitchY wrote:

Experiencing the exact same thing.

Makes it a pretty unworkable situation.

I am sorry to hear that you are also having a problem. Can you give us some details? Without details, we can't really chase problems down. A lot of crashing is pretty unusual. Please give me a recipe that explains what you are doing and how you are doing it (and your OS, CPU and audio interface information) when it happens so that we can either see if we can recreate the problem OR advise you on how to avoid the problem.

It may be that there is a specific way that you go about using the Image Synth that is different from what we have tried and that difference might be responsible.

So, please be as specific as you can about what precipitates the problem. We aren't just programmers, we are also musicians/producers that use the software a lot. So, I can safely say that it is unusual for MS to crash a lot. There are a few things that are known to be issues:

1) Changing a sample that is in use by a sampler or multisampler during playback

2) Extended editing of a Grain Synth instrument during playback (it usually takes many many many minute of fairly continuous editing the instrument during playback for this to happen -- and even then it is unusual)

3) Using the Open file dialog to open a waveform during playback

4) Using the Open file dialog to change instruments (this doesn't usually cause a crash on most systems but it could due to an OS bug)

If your crashes are coming when using the Open file dialog to change instruments during playback, try using the the Browse popup instead and selecting instruments from the Choose Instrument menu. That should generally be safe).

Anyway, give us more information and we'll see what we can do.

Also, be sure to repair your permissions. I can't tell you how many people have had random crashing problems that went away after running Disk Utility to verify the hard drive and repair permissions.

Best,

Edward

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Edward Spiegel

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Dec 6, 2010, 2:17:29 AM12/6/10

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At 5:50 PM -0800 12/5/10, rladd wrote:
>
>thanks for responding. I'm using OS 10.6.5 on a MacBook Pro with an
>Apogee Duet. I think I was changing the instrument without stopping
>playback in the image synth room. When I did it, particularly with the
>granular synth, the program promptly crashed. I just noticed it might
>have been this because in the last hour or so I've been systematically
>changing instruments but stopping playback before doing it, and I
>haven't experienced a single crash. Is it possible that this was the
>reason? In any case, I'll let you know if it keeps happening
>(hopefully not, because I'm planning to transfer most of the work on a
>project I'm developing to Metasynth). Best,

How are you changing the instruments?

There is a problem that some people experience where editing the grain synth for a long time while previewing crashes (for some people this never causes a problem, though). The only solution for that is to periodically stop and restart the preview -- for those people that experience it -- and I have had it happen a few times -- it usually happens after many minutes of fairly continuous editing.

Also, avoid using the Open Instrument dialog box that is in the instrument edit window during previewing. While it is often safe to use, some people have experienced some problems using the dialog. (Oh, and don't use the Import Waveform dialog while previewing -- that is a bit unstable).

Best,

Edward

MitchY

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Dec 6, 2010, 2:18:20 AM12/6/10

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Already got an (unsatisfying) answer to that in a previous thread with Architectural Waveforms crashes...

Op 6 dec 2010 08:13 schreef "Edward Spiegel" <espie...@yahoo.com>:

At 7:57 AM +0100 12/6/10, MitchY wrote:
>

> Experiencing the exact same thing.
>

> Makes it a pretty...