Artmatic Suite 8 is almost here!

[Kevin DuArte]

Hi All,

Hope you are safe. Just a heads up that we plan to wrap up testing of Designer 8 and Voyager 5 this week. Artmatic Suite 8 is compatible with not only MacOS 10.15 but legacy systems running 10.10-10.14. Also as always, Designer and Voyager can be purchase separately or as a bundle. We'll have pricing and a new feature list available soon.

All the best,

Eric and Kevin

[Riccardo Dapelo]

Hi All,

will discounts be available for upgrades from previous version?

Thanx,

Riccardo

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[Matt Mower]

I was thinking the same thing.

I appreciate the massive effort that has gone into these new apps and
that they offer a lot of functionality many of us have waited years
for (multi-level undo!!!) and I want to support a small company that
has consistently shown it cares about its users.

That said it would be nice to be recognised as a long-term customer
(and I know some have been around a LOT longer than I) whose supported
UI software.

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[Riccardo Dapelo]

It’s exactly my thought.
I took a look at my records and saw that I’ve been supporting Ui for twenty years.

Ciao,
Riccardo

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[George]

Another long term user here.

I have to say, U&I has always been fair about upgrades.

$200 is fair for the new version of AM CTX... there are things I can do in AM I can't do or don't want to attempt in other programs...

But if there are upgrade incentives for ancient users, I'm all ears!

[Kevin DuArte]

Hi Everyone, please note the UIList is not longer being monitored.

See the post "The Road Ahead" and send any support questions to: Supp...@uisoftware.com

 

How We Got From There to Here:

 

Apple killed the ArtMatic Designer 8 + Voyager 5 project and any prospect of being able to upgrade U&I Software products. It meant the end of U&I Software as we all know it. It was as if Eric's house had been burnt down.

 

It had taken two years to development to create 8+5, but Apple no longer supports Carbon MacOS applications and has moved on to a new Cocoa Only MacOS platform to align with iOS (and future processor changes). Remember the change from MacOS to Unix? PowerPC to  Intel? Apple pitched that porting the applications to the new OS was going to be easy, it isn't. Lots of functionality has been removed from what Carbon Developers once could do. At times it's like tossing a rock into a black box. 

 

Eric had a choice, port the current products to Windows 10 and discontinue developing products for the Macintosh (the easy path), or start all over yet again (think MacOS->Unix, PowerPC->Intel, Carbon->Cocoa) and develop new products for a new Apple platform. The thought was daunting. It meant 6 additional months programing 24/7 to recover the previous work on Designer 8 + Voyager 5 and then port them into whole new products for Cocoa MacOS. This was not fully clear to me at the time, thus why my references to Designer 8 + Voyager 5 continued.

 

Doing whole new products for a new Mac platform was/is a labor of love that Eric is doing for the product's legacy and his loyal Macintosh supporters. He didn't want to abandon you! Full stop. Additional development costs additional money, so it would increase the price of the product by at least $100 per copy. Again, Eric didn't want to do that to his longtime customers, so the price remained the same (below cost to make) price. This is one reason Explorer was created - help bring new customers into the ArtMatic universe and also help balance out the increase in development the costs.

 

It's been a hectic journey this last year with all heads down to make the new ArtMatic apps happen. Hindsight is 50/50 and looking back, perhaps we should have paused any new development, accepted the Mac platform was dead, and reached out to the Mac customer base and said so. Ask everyone if they wanted to fund a new Mac product. Perhaps running a Go Fund me campaign for the new program development would have been a better path? If enough financial support was there, then he would move ahead, and if not, just stop and call it a day.

 

Again, this was a rapidly evolving situation on a quick moving train that's been running for two decades, so things were not at all clear at the time what he faced as we raced forward. Yet here we all are. The births have begun. Eric' Creative ToolboX for the new Apple platform has its first offspring:. Designer CTX 1.0, Voyager CTX 1.0, Explorer CTX 1.0, and the ArtMatic Engine 8 for Cocoa have been born.

 

Lots of wisdom has been gained along the way and has committed to continuing working hard over the next year to ensure all of his programs (ArtMatic V-Quartz, MetaSynth, Xx) are rebuilt for the Cocoa OS platform for Macintosh, and users can explore them for years to come. He greatly appreciates everyone's support of his work, and the help to fund it. Given the experiences of this last year, the journey will not be easy, but I for one, think they are worth it.

 

Here is to the future,

Kevin

[Fred Barth]

I’m an old time enthusiast too, Kevin. The fine work done by U&I has made its mark, and we will always support your work. Very few companies have as much to be proud of. Thanks all around. I’m eagerly awaiting new development in Metasynth too—I was glad to hear that!

Fred Barth

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[George]

And to think that AM and MS were some of the determining programs for me to stay with Apple so many years ago... I would support a move to Windows. 

Fck Apple. I'm still buying MacBook Pros mostly because of software, but the quality and practical aspects of the hardware are seriously deteriorating, not to mention their BS treatment of developers.

My Windows 10 computers I use to interface with my sound and lighting rigs have TOUCH SCREENS.

In this case, maybe hindsight was actually 50/50! ;)

[Glen Bledsoe]

On May 4, 2020, at 8:03 PM, Kevin DuArte <kevin.ui...@gmail.com> wrote:

It's been a hectic journey this last year with all heads down to make the new ArtMatic apps happen. Hindsight is 50/50 and looking back, perhaps we should have paused any new development, accepted the Mac platform was dead, and reached out to the Mac customer base and said so.

For all of Apple’s missteps and ham-handedness I'll never switch to Windows. I used to teach middle school students in labs filled with Windows machines. What a nightmare. I can recall all too readily when DOS users made fun of Mac users and its graphic user interface saying that “real men like to get under the hood with commands.” In the meanwhile, of course, Microsoft was in the back room reverse engineering the MacOS. 

I also remember when Bryce went cross-platform and how much the Mac version suffered as a consequence. Buggy, unstable, missing features. That also pissed me off. I really hope that’s not what’s going to happen here. I think opening Windows users to UI products is a good business move, but I don't want Mac users to have to suffer for it.

I was using MetaSynth before Edward joined UI so I've been hanging in there since the beginning. I'll support UI as long as they give me a stable Mac version of MetaSynth. 

Cheers!

Glen 

[David P Coffin]

Hello, Glen! Nice to see you here:)

DITTO what HE said (plus Xx!):

[Glen Bledsoe]

Yo, David! You still in Oregon? Still watercoloring?

Cheers!

Glen 

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[Matt Mower]

> $200 is fair for the new version of AM CTX... there are things I can do in AM I can't do or don't want to attempt in other programs...

I know what you mean.

Unfortunately it seems to be £200 here in the UK (closer to $240)
which — at a time of great uncertainty — is a harder spend on
something which is a fun/hobby/curiosity app rather than business
tool.

I've no doubt of the value of the app, and I do believe Eric should be
rewarded his — considerable — efforts.

Probably I will end up justifying it somehow…

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