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Vicente-Juan Ballester Olmos

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Sep 12, 2021, 2:44:09 PMSep 12
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Hi, folks, I just joined the group, cheers to everybody.
Regards,
Vicente-Juan Ballester Olmos
Spain

Terry W. Colvin

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Sep 13, 2021, 12:02:25 AMSep 13
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Welcome Vicente-Juan!

 

You will find this is a low-volume mailing list.

 

It is a reincarnation of the former UFO-Updates list.

 

Terry in Thailand

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Edward Gehrman

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Sep 13, 2021, 5:29:53 PMSep 13
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List, Terry, Vicente,
When or where has there been an UP-Dates type discussion on the collective list?  There should be.  There's much to discuss.  I'd prefer to start with the "Alien Autopsy"
but the new Travis Walton revelations could also be interesting.  I loved Updates and EBK!  So far, nothing has replaced it.  That is too bad.  I know there are many interesting folks out there 
and I'd like to know what they think.  Welcome Vicente.
Ed


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Sep 13, 2021, 10:50:18 PMSep 13
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Joachim Koch

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Sep 14, 2021, 6:15:38 AMSep 14
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Hello,

I don't recall when I read your name for the first time - must be ages ago!

So welcome to this group, what an honor that you join in!

Don't think that the traffic is low here if I look back to the many contributions of the past. It may depend on the state of ufo research in general. Wait until the next flap! 😄

Best to all,

Joachim Koch

Joachim Koch

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Sep 14, 2021, 7:08:08 AMSep 14
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Hello Bruce,

it is so good to see you here!

I still remember the Gulf Breeze Incident and controversy and your very remarkable paper "Gulf Breeze without Ed Walters" which shows clearly that there was more behind the incident.

Hope you are well!

Maybe you remember "The Roswell Declaration" ? It was issued by Kent Jeffrey, Hans-Juergen Kyborg and me and was a tremendous successful initiative with more than 20.000 signed Declarations. Even Cufos, Fufor and Mufon signed them together! It was a great time!

You write in your paper:[quote] "Whether or not they will tell us is another question!"  My question and proposal: shouldn't we issue another Declaration to be signed by everyone to stop all UFO/UAP secrecy? In the past, they always claimed not to publish UFO documents because of "national security reasons". This time is over, this doesn't work anymore! All other countries, after decades of lying to the public, have opened their UFO files. And now even the US are forced to do so. Humankind has made first steps to leave its terrestrial border and will continue to do so. Science has advanced, paradigms have shifted. Humans are far more open for ET contact.

Let us give a push to History and issue a "End of Secrecy Declaration" and publish it worldwide via all channels available! If we would have had the Internet as we have it today, our "Roswell Initiative" would have collected many more signed "Roswell Declarations". And with all your good names here - it would provide the needed reputation. We researcher, groups and organizations should unite for the higher good and show up in all media and channels with the slogan: "End of Secrecy".

To you and all: what do you think!

Am 14.09.2021 um 04:50 schrieb bru...@compuserve.com:
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Joachim Koch

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Sep 14, 2021, 7:13:10 AMSep 14
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Hi Ed,

great to read you name!

I totally agree with what you have written below. I also loved Updates
and EBK, there wasn't a day without having a look for new information
and issues to discuss. Updates was the Mercedes of UFO-lists.

What are "new Travis Walton revelations"?

Joachim Koch

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Sep 14, 2021, 1:57:06 PMSep 14
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Good Day, Joachim -
 
You can learn some of it by listening to my interview with Mike Rogers. The first is a recap of the whole scenario and the second is the one where Rogers gets into some of the problems with the case. You can listen to them here:
 
 
 
You can also read some of it on my blog at:
 
 
At least you'll get the favor of the new debate.
 
Kevin
 
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Joachim Koch

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Sep 14, 2021, 2:45:18 PMSep 14
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Good Day, Kevin,

so by and by all the great researchers are joining in, wonderful! You have written History in UFO research and so thank you again for your links!

I have translated the lecture of Travis into German when he was over here in Bavaria years ago.

Best,

Joachim

R Heiden

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Sep 14, 2021, 3:19:42 PMSep 14
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Bienvenido, VJ.

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