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naman_hariom

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Jun 9, 2012, 9:18:34 AM6/9/12
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aap sab ke liye ek prashan,, kya shakshtkar ke baad aham rheta hai?

mukesh bhatia

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Jun 9, 2012, 9:52:55 AM6/9/12
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Gyanwaan ko brahmaand kaa sabse uchaa padd paakar, uss padd kaa abhi aham nahi hotaa toh dusra ahankar kya hogaa!

naman_hariom

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Jun 9, 2012, 10:24:40 AM6/9/12
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gyan wan ko bhale apne pad ka ahankar na ho par sadharan sharirik
ahankar toh rheta hai thoda bahut ,,,
hariom

On Jun 9, 6:52 pm, mukesh bhatia <shivoham...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gyanwaan ko brahmaand kaa sabse uchaa padd paakar, uss padd kaa abhi aham
> nahi hotaa toh dusra ahankar kya hogaa!
>

mukesh bhatia

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Jun 9, 2012, 10:36:27 AM6/9/12
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gyanwan yaani aatm gyani/saakshaatkari woh, arre usse sabse uche padd yaani aatm padd paanke kaa ahankar nahi hotaa toh phir dusree tuchch cheezo kaa ahankar kaise hogaa?

Ashu

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Jun 9, 2012, 8:09:40 PM6/9/12
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Why not we get there (aatma paad) and see what happens!!! Why waste time discussing about that which does not pertain or relate or happen to "your relative ego".  

2012/6/9 mukesh bhatia <shivo...@gmail.com>

Naveen Tirthani

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Jun 9, 2012, 10:03:49 PM6/9/12
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Ahankaar humko sachha bhasit hota hai, Gyani ko to hamesha swaroop hi bhasta hai. 
Unhe sansaar nahin dikhta, means sansaar ki satyata nahin dikhti.

Sakshi jyon ka tyon
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http://www.ashram.org/
http://www.hariomgroup.org/

smita shree

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Jun 10, 2012, 1:35:07 AM6/10/12
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अहंकार रहता है और नहीं भी रहता है। वो जब शरीर की बात करता है तो शरीर
के अहंकार से बात करता है नहीं तो शुद्ध अहंकार में रहता है।
जानने के लिए YouTube mei type Kate ghat wale baba ......
On Jun 10, 7:03 am, Naveen Tirthani <naveentirth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ahankaar humko sachha bhasit hota hai, Gyani ko to hamesha swaroop hi
> bhasta hai.
> Unhe sansaar nahin dikhta, means sansaar ki satyata nahin dikhti.
>
> Sakshi jyon ka tyon
> --------------------------------------
> visithttp://www.ashram.org/http://www.hariomgroup.org/
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> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:39 AM, Ashu <ashu19jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Why not we get there (aatma paad) and see what happens!!! Why waste time
> > discussing about that which does not pertain or relate or happen to "your
> > relative ego".
>
> > 2012/6/9 mukesh bhatia <shivoham...@gmail.com>
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> >> gyanwan yaani aatm gyani/saakshaatkari woh, arre usse sabse uche padd
> >> yaani aatm padd paanke kaa ahankar nahi hotaa toh phir dusree tuchch cheezo
> >> kaa ahankar kaise hogaa?
>

smita shree

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Jun 10, 2012, 1:40:15 AM6/10/12
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गुरू जी ज्ञान होने के बाद ७साल डीसा में रहे, उस समय अपने मैं को गलित
करने के लिए नारायण हरि करके भीक्षा माँगने गए थे।

naman_hariom

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Jun 10, 2012, 3:34:03 AM6/10/12
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aapka kehna sahi hai ,, par gyan wan ki chetana sharirik aur swaroop
dono ahamkar mei kaam karti hai,,, aisa nahi hai ki use sharirik
ahamkar nahi hota,,,
bina sharirik ahamkar ke shareer nahi rhega sukhe patte ki tarah jhad
jayega...

On Jun 10, 7:03 am, Naveen Tirthani <naveentirth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ahankaar humko sachha bhasit hota hai, Gyani ko to hamesha swaroop hi
> bhasta hai.
> Unhe sansaar nahin dikhta, means sansaar ki satyata nahin dikhti.
>
> Sakshi jyon ka tyon
> --------------------------------------
> visithttp://www.ashram.org/http://www.hariomgroup.org/
>
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:39 AM, Ashu <ashu19jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Why not we get there (aatma paad) and see what happens!!! Why waste time
> > discussing about that which does not pertain or relate or happen to "your
> > relative ego".
>
> > 2012/6/9 mukesh bhatia <shivoham...@gmail.com>
>
> >> gyanwan yaani aatm gyani/saakshaatkari woh, arre usse sabse uche padd
> >> yaani aatm padd paanke kaa ahankar nahi hotaa toh phir dusree tuchch cheezo
> >> kaa ahankar kaise hogaa?
>

Naveen Tirthani

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Jun 10, 2012, 3:41:46 AM6/10/12
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Ye to Gurudev ki leela thi , vo kaise apne ahankaar ko galit karne ke liye aage badhe.
warna brahmgyan hota hi ahankaar ko nasht karne se ya badhit karne se hai, unhe ahankaar kya baand sakega? 


Sakshi jyon ka tyon
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2012/6/10 smita shree <smitashre...@gmail.com>

Naveen Tirthani

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Jun 10, 2012, 3:44:43 AM6/10/12
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Wahi kaha bhaiya,
Gyani ko sansaar nahin bhasta matlab ye nahin ki sansaar gayab ho gaya unke liye, unhe sansaar ki satyata nahin bhasit hoti. unke liye sansaar baadhit ho gaya. jaise gahne ko sona jaan liya... to gahna to fir bhi dikhega... lekin uski satyata kalpit dikhegi.. 
aise hi gyani ko sirf swaroop hi bhasta hai... baaki sab to kalpana hai.

hariom

Sakshi jyon ka tyon
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visit
http://www.ashram.org/
http://www.hariomgroup.org/


naman_hariom

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Jun 10, 2012, 3:54:46 AM6/10/12
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hariom
ashu bhai jahan jana hai uske barien mei sunane aur us stithi ko
samajhne jaruri hain nahi toh ,, us stithi par pahuch kar bhi agar yeh
gyan nahi hua ki yehi hai toh kya labh ,,
guruji bhi toh kehte hain ki 3 minute sankalp vikalp rahit avastha ho
par us samaye batane wale guru hone chahiye ki yehi hai,,,aur is
discussion kuch aur bhi fayade hain jaise ki,, discuss karne se man
mei is marg ke liye tadap bhadegi iccha badegi,, aur disussion karne
se bahut si sadhana ki mehnat bhi kum hoti hai,, ki sadhana karne
chalang marde gyan mei ,, nai toh sadhana se unche uthenge aur phir
asadhan se neeche aa jayenge yehi chalta rhega ,, aisa gurudev kehte
haib\,,


On Jun 10, 5:09 am, Ashu <ashu19jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why not we get there (aatma paad) and see what happens!!! Why waste time
> discussing about that which does not pertain or relate or happen to "your
> relative ego".
>
> 2012/6/9 mukesh bhatia <shivoham...@gmail.com>
>
> > gyanwan yaani aatm gyani/saakshaatkari woh, arre usse sabse uche padd
> > yaani aatm padd paanke kaa ahankar nahi hotaa toh phir dusree tuchch cheezo
> > kaa ahankar kaise hogaa?
>

naman_hariom

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Jun 10, 2012, 4:03:55 AM6/10/12
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aap sahi kehte hain naveen bhai
par badhit hone ka matlab yeh nahi ki use ahamkar kaam krodh nahi
aata ,, woh aata hai aur chala jata hai par gyani apni mahima mei
rheta hai,, ab alag alag gyani mei kya kya aadat hai yeh unke man pe
depend krta hai,,apne guruji sattva pradhan hai,,,
shakshatkar ek matra vasnao ke badhit hone se hota hai ,, plus ahamkar
bhi baadhit hota hai,, ya yu kahe ki ahamkar se janit vasnao ka nash
hone se uska root ahamkar bhi kum hota hai,,,

On Jun 10, 12:44 pm, Naveen Tirthani <naveentirth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wahi kaha bhaiya,
> Gyani ko sansaar nahin bhasta matlab ye nahin ki sansaar gayab ho gaya unke
> liye, unhe sansaar ki satyata nahin bhasit hoti. unke liye sansaar baadhit
> ho gaya. jaise gahne ko sona jaan liya... to gahna to fir bhi dikhega...
> lekin uski satyata kalpit dikhegi..
> aise hi gyani ko sirf swaroop hi bhasta hai... baaki sab to kalpana hai.
>
> hariom
>
> Sakshi jyon ka tyon
> --------------------------------------
> visithttp://www.ashram.org/http://www.hariomgroup.org/
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