Question

[Shrikant Pandey]

Hariom,

Ham yadi Engineer/Doctor etc ho jaye to turant man lete hai. Par ham aatma hai yah baat baar baar sunane par bhi mani nahi jati?

Ye meri bhabhi/Patni etc etc hai ye bhi turant man lete hai par ishwar mere hai ye nahi maan pate.

 

Esa kyun?

[Naveen Tirthani]

i think

Hume jo dikhta hai - use maante hain. 

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[mukesh bhatia]

Kai janmo ke sanskaar hai, aur deh abhyaas pakaa hai, ek baar gyan ho jaay aur aatma mein sthithi ho jaay toh phir aisaa nahi maanege aur yeh toh bhai gurukripaa se hogaa, bas gurukripaa pachane kaa paatra bano... jais rasee ko saap maante hai par nazdik jaate dekhe aur pataa chal jaay kee rassee hai saap nahi aise agyaan kaa avran hat jaay aur jaa le mein yeh sharir nahi hoon mein toh aatma hoon toh phir kaam ho jaay, issiko kehte hai aatm saakshaatkar, brahmi stithi...

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Mukesh

[budh pal singh Chandel]

जो नहीं मानते है ,बे मुर्ख से जादा क्या होसकते है ,और गली गली भटकते है !

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Shrikant Pandey <shrikan...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[budh pal singh Chandel]

क्या आप ने हबा या धरती के भीतर गन्ने की मिठास देखि है ?fi उसे क्यों मानते हो?

[Naveen Tirthani]

Budpal ji,

Srikanth ye poochh rahe hain - aisa hum kyon mante hain, aur aap unhe daantne lag gaye :)

Scientific reason ho sake to bataiye - aur kaise vo is problem se door hno vo bataiye na...

HariOM

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[Shrikant Pandey]

esa nahi hai. America hai yah dekh kar mana ki sun kar mana? sun kar na? to aise hi ham aatma hai ya sun kar nahi manate ham log. yadi ham maan lete hai to kam turant ho jayega. kyun ki hamari dridhata ke baad hi mahavakya pachega. yadi esa lagata hai ki ham to maante hai to esa ek baar bhi nahi hoga ki ham kahe main khata/chalata anya karya karata hun.Bas jo ho raha hai ho raha hai.main karta nahi bhokta nahi.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Naveen Tirthani <naveent...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Shrikant Pandey]

Hariom,

Hame hava ka sparsh hota hai. Ganne ki mithas malum hoti hai. Yeh sab indriyo ko pata chalane vale hai. Ye sajatiy hai. Hamane apane aap ko prakriti se joda hai isliye sunate, dhekhate hi maan lete hain ki yah gangaji hai. par sunate hi yah nahi manate ki ham brahm hai. kyun ki Hamne sharir ko hi mukhya mana hai. Jaise Jaise hamara sharir se main pan kam hoga hamara sansaar ki uplabdhiyo ko main aur mera manana kam hota jayega. Baki main aatma hun yah to svatah siddh hai iske liye kuchh karan nahi hai.

[Naveen Tirthani]

Meine kaha dekhna matlab... 5 indriyan, 5 gyanendriya, 4 antahkaran se jo dikhta hai.

Sakshi jyon ka tyon
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[budh pal singh Chandel]

अरे मडम जी ,मैंने डाटा नहीं सीढ़ी बात कही ,जिसे बह अछि तरह से समझ सके ,की इश्वर सब जगह ब्याप्त है ,ऐसी कोई जगह नहीं है ,जहा बह नहीं ,जैसे बायु,धरती में मिठास,क़ुइन्त्लो तेल क्या दिखाई देती है ,जब यह दिखाई  नहीं देती  तो भला इश्वर जो रोम रोम में समाया हुआ है ,कैसे दिखेगा ? उसे अंतर्मन से देखना है तो जरुर मिलेगा ,मई तो हर समय देखता हूँ ,अच्छा हो ,आप लोग भी yoga क्र महसूस करे ,इस से जादा सयिन्तिफिक और क्या हो सकता है ,कष्ट के लिए धन्यबाद!

[budh pal singh Chandel]

जिस तरह से हबा,मिठास को महसूस क्र रहे हो ,धरती में देख नहीं सकते उसी प्रकार से आत्मा -परमात्मा को भी महसूस किया जा सकता है ,ऐसा वेदों में ऋषियों ने बताया ब हमने आत्मसात किया है ,जो साईंस नहीं क्र सकता ,हम पाहिले एक्सपीरियंस करते फिर दुसरो को बता ते ,यह कटु सत्य है !

[Shrikant Pandey]

lekin aatma indriyo ka vishay nahi hai. Mahsus kaise karen? Kar hi nahi sakate.

[Shrikant Pandey]

mujhe lagata hai naveen ji madam nahi hai. Mr hai.

2013/3/18 budh pal singh Chandel <bps1c...@gmail.com>

[mukesh bhatia]

Ishwar ki aur pustak padte bhi aatm gyan ho saktaa hai, ussme samshan yaatra batai gayi uss se pataa chaltaa hai kee shareer mar gayaa, mein toh nahi maraa... mein toh aatmaa hoon... mein toh nahi martaa... aise yeh gyan ho jaataa hai aisaa swamiji se satsang mein sunaa hai, par mujhe aabhi tak saakshaatkar nahi hua, issiliye jyada nahi bol saktaa iss vishay par... jisko saakshaatkar hua hai wohi bataa saktaa hai...

 

guru, shatra aur teekshan budhee se aatm saakshaatkar hotaa hai aisaa yog vasishth mein ataa hai...

 

jaise doctor bataa sakta hai dekh ke kee kya davai denee hai, aise hee guru bhi shishy kee stihi ko dekh kar bataa sakte hai kee shishy ko kya sadhana karnee chahiye toh usse saakshatkar hogaa... bas aisee sadhana kare toh kaam ho jaay...

 

Om Om Om...

[smita shree]

Hariom
Humara vichar hai ki hum aatma nahi hai ..
Ye vichar hai ki hum aatma kaise jane apne aap ko? To vichar karke hi jaan sakte hai...
Janega koun? Budhhi hi na ...usmei 50 faltu baate hai to ek bat thik se baithti nahi... Sab baat dhere dhere hata kar ek baat per atka dene se n last mei woh baat bhi chor dene se gyan ho jata hai... Kyoki ek baat bhi rahegi to budhi ka hona bach jayega n jab tak woh hai tab tak gyan nahi... Usko bolne ke liye fir budhi ka hi sahara lekar bolna hoga.. Budhi bhi uska abhas hi bata pati hai sach nahi ...hriday mei anubhav hoga n uski ka sahara lekar budhi se bolna hota hai....
Woh ek baat kya hai? Main brahm hu, sab ishwar hai, sab ek hai, ek hi satta hai, aisa koi bhi vichar... Rahi anubhav ki baat to 2 vicharo ke bich mei , ya swas lene n chorne ke bich mei jo samay hai usko prolong karke hriday mei us samay dekhne se ki kaisa anubhav hai n fir usmei budhi se main pana majboot karne se last mei woh main rah jata hai.. Wohi constant ek ras nitya ka anubhav hoga har samay ... Abhi bhi woh hai per dhyan nahi jata n tika nahi hai isliye anubhav bhi nahi hota..
Gurudev ki jai

[JAYPRAKASH SINGH]

Mereko Bapu dedo hehehe :-P

[naman rastogi]

aapko bapu mile nai kya jo alag se chahiye hain :D :P

[Shrikant Pandey]

Sadho Sadho

[JAYPRAKASH SINGH]

Bapu dedo dedo naaa hahahaha