shakshatkar ki requirement

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naman_hariom

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Apr 29, 2012, 7:43:21 AM4/29/12
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what are the requirements according to you for shakshatkar if there
are any??

Shekhar Kelkar

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Apr 29, 2012, 11:39:51 AM4/29/12
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Hari Om Ji
 
Pujya Bapuji Satsang dwaara kehte hain ke Aatma Sakshatkar karna sabse aasaan aur saral upaay hain to uske requirement hain -
 
1.Determination
2.Will to succeed - Where there is a will, there is a way
3.Ahankaar na ho
4.Kaam, krodh, mada, matsar, lobh, moha na ho
5.Ichchaayein, vaasnayein na ho
 
NArayan Hari


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mukesh bhatia

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Apr 29, 2012, 1:09:09 PM4/29/12
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Saakshaaktar kee koi requirement nah hoti sirf udeshya honaa chahiye, agar aap saakshaatkar karnaa chahte ho bas aap ko guru kripaa pachane kaa paatraa bananaa hai bas!

Regards,
Mukesh

naman_hariom

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Apr 29, 2012, 1:45:34 PM4/29/12
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hariomji
shekhar bhai ki baat bhi sahi hai aur mukesh bhai ki bhi,,
jub shaksatkar ke kareeb hote hain toh jo properties shekhar bhai ne
batai woh aati hain
par to start with, only determination is required,, rest of the
requirements will be fulfilled by the power of that determination,,
cause as we have to go beyond mind so what is the kind mind ,, this
doesnt matter ,, only determination is needed
shekhar bhai ka kehna ek tarah se sahi hai,,, kyonki agar pakka irada
hai toh baaki vasnaye kahan rhengi aur jo yeh abhyas kare ki "sab ek
hai" uska ahankar bhi kaise tikega ,,
aur jo man ko dekhne ka abhyas karega woh "kam krodh lobh moh" aadi
mei kaise tikega ,,, but yeh sab pakke irade[will] se apne aap hone
lagega :))

On Apr 29, 10:09 pm, mukesh bhatia <shivoham...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Saakshaaktar kee koi requirement nah hoti sirf udeshya honaa chahiye, agar
> aap saakshaatkar karnaa chahte ho bas aap ko guru kripaa pachane kaa
> paatraa bananaa hai bas!
>
> Regards,
> Mukesh
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Shekhar Kelkar <shekharkel...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> > Hari Om Ji
>
> > Pujya Bapuji Satsang dwaara kehte hain ke Aatma Sakshatkar karna sabse
> > aasaan aur saral upaay hain to uske requirement hain -
>
> > 1.Determination
> > 2.Will to succeed - Where there is a will, there is a way
> > 3.Ahankaar na ho
> > 4.Kaam, krodh, mada, matsar, lobh, moha na ho
> > 5.Ichchaayein, vaasnayein na ho
>
> > NArayan Hari
>
> > --- On *Sun, 4/29/12, naman_hariom <rastog...@gmail.com>* wrote:

Naveen Tirthani

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Apr 30, 2012, 4:25:19 AM4/30/12
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