||Hari Om || Aatma - Sakshatkar
Shekhar Kelkar
Hari Om Ji
Hum saare sadhakon ko Ishwar praapti ki tadap hain lekin sansaari karno (jimmedari) ke vajah se hum poori tarah se ghar par kar nahi paate hain na hi Ashram mein jaake praapt kar sakte hain kyoon ki hum sab par sansaari jimmedari (job, business, education etc) hain jo hum nibhaa rahe hain.
Agar kisi sadhak ko Ishwar praapti ho gayee to use kuch kaam karne mein kuch baki nahi rahta yah hum sab jaante hain. Lekin yahan par mein poochna chahta hoon ke uss sadhak ke upar uske sansaari (family) jimmedari hain to woh kaise nibha payega? matlab ke Ishwar praapti milne ke baad mein job, business kaise kar payega aur paise kaise kamayega taaki uska ghar (family) iss mahangaai (price inflation) ke dino mein kaise chale?
Krupaya karke bataaiye.
Narayan Hari
Sakshi jyoon ka tyon |
mukesh bhatia
Shekhar Kelkar
Hari Om Mukesh Bhai
Mein yah nahi keh raha hoon ke ishwar praapti ke baad mein job kar nahi sakte lekin jisko ishwar praapti hui usko jo sukh milega woh uss sukh mein samadisth hokar usko sansaar ek khel dikhega, chandra, surya taare sab gend (ball) ki tarah nazar aayenge aur usko yah bhaasit hoga ke yah sab nashwar hain aur swapna hain aur mein ek chaitanya amar aatma hoon jo brahmanand mein mast hoon. Ishwar praapti ke baad mein sansaar mein jaa nahi sakta kyoon ki usko aatma gyaan, sukh, shanti, anand, prasannata, mukt aatma hoga aur wohi sansaar mein kyon pair dalega jahan pe waqt waqt pe dukha hain, sukh to hain hi nahi. Aise stithi mein woh job kyoon karega aur uska job mein kya uddeshya rahega?
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Shekhar Kelkar
Hari Om Ji
Aur mein yah bhi janna chahata hoon ke aise koi mahapurush hain jisne aatma sakshatkar kiya hain aur job, business ityaadi kar raha hain iis prithvi par?
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naman rastogi
haha dekhiye jaise bapuji satsang krte hain par apni marzi se nahi ,, sabki bhalai ka uddeshya hai issi se jo ho jata hai unse ho jata hai,, aise hi agar koi sansarik vyavahar mei hai gyani toh usse jo samne kaam hoga woh ho jayega par usko satya nahi manega aur maine kiya aisa bhi nahi samjhega, gyani ki vasana nivrutt hoti hai karm nai ,, karm toh gyani ho ya aur koi karta hi hai ,, woh jimmedari ko jimmedari nahi manega uske samne ko bhi prakrut dhang se karya upastith hoga usko woh yathyogya kar dega lekin usko us karya ki vasana nai hogi usmei bhi woh udaseen rhega,, karya bhed aapki nazar mei hai gyani ki nazar mei sab sankalp matra bhram(dhoka) hi hai isiliye woh accha bure etc etc ko bhi mahattva na deke bas yantra-vat karya karta rheta hai prarabdha ke anusar, kisi se bandha nai
naman rastogi
aapne example puncha hai toh kabir ji hi the woh bhi bunai karte the, raidas ji bhi the,, aur aajkal ki baat kare toh guruji ne kaha ki woh aisa shakshatkari purush se mile jo ki darzi(tailor) the,, aur guruji ki katha mei yeh bhi suna hai ki ek maayi(lady) grahistha ashram mei thi shakshatkar kare hue,, ek bhai dunkaan chalate the anaaz ki ,,, aur mai bhi janta hun kuch ko ek grahistha maayi hain, aur ek bhai woh padhai karte hain aur job karn jaa rhe hain,,
agar gyan hone ke baad bhi mujhe yeh karna chahiye aur yeh nai aisi vasana bani rhi toh woh gyani kaisa ,, gyani ki koi pakad nai hoti
mukesh bhatia
Shekhar Kelkar
hariom ji
ek baar sakshatkaar hone ke baad mein uus aatma sakshatkaari ko yah padd tikana padta hai? kisi karan ke vajah se mila hua gyaan wapas chala bhi ja sakta hain? aur kin vajah se chala ja sakta hain?
krupaya karke bataaiye.
Narayan Hari |
naman_hariom
ek baar gyan ho jaye toh uski vsmruti nahi hoti,, aur gyan aur bhakti
dono mei ek baar bhali prakar stith hone pe baar baar usko yaad ya
dohrana nahi padta usmei stith rhene ke liye,, jaise ki ek baar apne
kisi vyakti ko uske naam se jaan liya toh usko baar baar ratne ki
jarurat nahi usi prakar apne ko janane ke baad jis buddhi vrutti se
usko jana hai uska bhi tyag krna hota hai,, apne mei stith hone ke
baad jis buddhi rupi shastra se avidya ko kata hai uska bhi tyag krna
hota hai,,
aur yeh aisa pad hai jise pakar wapas nahi aana padta ,,
han halanki vasana aur prarabdha vash ya pehle ka drud abhyas na hone
ke karan dobara utpanna hote hain par usse bhi uska gyan nahi
dhakta ,, par gyan hone ke baad agar gyani ko jeevanmukti ka sukh
chahiye toh manonash aur vasana kshay karna padta hai,,, par gyan ka
lop toh kisi bhi avastha mei nahi hota,,
aur haan gyani apni stithi ko chor kar thori der ke liye man ya buddhi
mei aa sakta hai par woh wahan phasega nahi apne aap kuch samaye mei
shakshi swbhaav mei chala jayega ,, jevanmukt ho aisa vikshep kabhi
nahi hota ,, par jo gyani 4th bhoomika mei hi rhete hai loksampark ke
karan aisa chalta rheta hai par apne aap sambhal bhi jata hai,,ek bar
shakshatkar ho jaye toh aisa aapko hoga hi nahi man kahin aur lage ,
aur agar aap prayatna karke man ko lagate bhi hain toh wahan jyada
lamba tikega nahi,,
On Jun 24, 12:43 pm, Shekhar Kelkar <shekharkel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hariom ji
> ek baar sakshatkaar hone ke baad mein uus aatma sakshatkaari ko yah padd tikana padta hai? kisi karan ke vajah se mila hua gyaan wapas chala bhi ja sakta hain? aur kin vajah se chala ja sakta hain?
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> krupaya karke bataaiye.
>
> Narayan Hari
>
> From: mukesh bhatia <shivoham...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: || Aatm Saakshaatkar || ||Hari Om || Aatma - Sakshatkar
> To: udeshya-aatm-saakshaatka...@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, June 23, 2012, 11:04 PM
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> Ji naman bhai ne bilkul theek kahaa hai, gyan ko kartavya karm toh karnaa hee woh toh sab ko karnaa hai... karm se nrivutti nahi hotee, karm kaa phal bhi nahi hotaa, par jo vyavaarik karm hai woh toh gyanwaan bhi kartaa hai...
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> p.s: aur haan sukh dukh ki kalpana aapke mind mei hai gyani ko sukh dukh nai hota ,, sansari vyakti ko sansar mei raag hota hai bhakt ko bhagwan mei gyani ko kisi mei raag nahi hota gyani mei kuch nai hota,, na usko pruvrutti mei sukh hai na nivrutti mei ,, na usko karne se maja aata hai na chorne se woh toh apne aap mei hai karta dikhta bhi hai toh usko us karm se koi lena dena nai isliye woh kuch karta hai ya nai usse use koi farak nai ,, isiliye usko jo bhi karm aa prapt hoga woh use kardega,,
> aapne example puncha hai toh kabir ji hi the woh bhi bunai karte the, raidas ji bhi the,, aur aajkal ki baat kare toh guruji ne kaha ki woh aisa shakshatkari purush se mile jo ki darzi(tailor) the,, aur guruji ki katha mei yeh bhi suna hai ki ek maayi(lady) grahistha ashram mei thi shakshatkar kare hue,, ek bhai dunkaan chalate the anaaz ki ,,, aur mai bhi janta hun kuch ko ek grahistha maayi hain, aur ek bhai woh padhai karte hain aur job karn jaa rhe hain,,
> agar gyan hone ke baad bhi mujhe yeh karna chahiye aur yeh nai aisi vasana bani rhi toh woh gyani kaisa ,, gyani ki koi pakad nai hoti
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> Hari Om Ji
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> Aur mein yah bhi janna chahata hoon ke aise koi mahapurush hain jisne aatma sakshatkar kiya hain aur job, business ityaadi kar raha hain iis prithvi par?
>
> Hari Om
>
> From: Shekhar Kelkar <shekharkel...@yahoo.com>
>
> Subject: Re: || Aatm Saakshaatkar || ||Hari Om || Aatma - Sakshatkar
> To: udeshya-aatm-saakshaatka...@googlegroups.com
>
> Hari Om Mukesh Bhai
>
> Mein yah nahi keh raha hoon ke ishwar praapti ke baad mein job kar nahi sakte lekin jisko ishwar praapti hui usko jo sukh milega woh uss sukh mein samadisth hokar usko sansaar ek khel dikhega, chandra, surya taare sab gend (ball) ki tarah nazar aayenge aur usko yah bhaasit hoga ke yah sab nashwar hain aur swapna hain aur mein ek chaitanya amar aatma hoon jo brahmanand mein mast hoon. Ishwar praapti ke baad mein sansaar mein jaa nahi sakta kyoon ki usko aatma gyaan, sukh, shanti, anand, prasannata, mukt aatma hoga aur wohi sansaar mein kyon pair dalega jahan pe waqt waqt pe dukha hain, sukh to hain hi nahi. Aise stithi mein woh job kyoon karega aur uska job mein kya uddeshya rahega?
>
> Hari Om
>
> From: mukesh bhatia <shivoham...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: || Aatm Saakshaatkar || ||Hari Om || Aatma - Sakshatkar
> To: udeshya-aatm-saakshaatka...@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, June 23, 2012, 5:19 AM
>
> Kya ishwar parpti ke baad job, business nahi kar sakte kyaa? aisaa kisne kahaa hai aapko? aur kyon nahi kar sakte? phir toh aur behtar tarike se kar sakte hai!
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AMAN KUMAR JHA
hari om prabhu,
Rajeshri Chandavle
Hariom,
Pujya bApuji ke ekant satsang me vo batate hai,hamara 5 bhutonka sharir aur man, buddi ahankar ye (total-8) ashtadha prakriti mai ( I ) Nhi hoon.to main koun hoon? Jo kabhi nhi marata,kabhi dukhi nhi hota vo sat- chit-anand swaaroop mai hoon,Aur paramatma ka swaroop bhi Vhi hai hum bhi 'Vhi ' hai sada rahanevale- gyanswaroop-sukhswaroop ( sat chit anand roop ) Isika gyan / sakshatkar Hona hi Atmsakshatkar hai.hum uski satta (paramatma) me hi jee rahe hai,usise jude hai na ki ISS bhoutik jagat se ,...wah wah mere gudev aapki jai ho,hariom
hari om prabhu,yeh aatmasakshtkar kie bhoomika ka kya matlab hai?(kabhi satsang mein nahin suna).
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naman rastogi
Hariom
Bhoomika matlab stage.,, abhi toh bapuji general satsang krte hain kyonki log kaafi jyada hote hain aur yeh gehre rahasya ekdum sabke samajh nei bhi nai aata hai, yeh sab pehle ke satsang mei suna tha. Books etc mei.
hari om prabhu,yeh aatmasakshtkar kie bhoomika ka kya matlab hai?(kabhi satsang mein nahin suna).
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JAYPRAKASH SINGH
Gyan ki saat bhumikaye hai. Means 7 levels
4th level par Sakshatkar ho jata hai
5th 6th aur 7th sakshatkar se upar uthke levels hai.
Gyani ke upar hai vo kaunse level me rehna chhahta hai. Yogvashisth me iske bare me pura diya hai.
Maine bas keval hint diya hai. Hariom.
On Mar 24, 2014 11:42 AM, "AMAN KUMAR JHA" <amankr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> hari om prabhu,
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> yeh aatmasakshtkar kie bhoomika ka kya matlab hai?(kabhi satsang mein nahin suna).
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Rajeshri Chandavle
Hariom,
What is my stage/level in atmasakshatkar ?
Meri Ye atmsakshatkar ki stage kya hai ,bhumika kya hai?
Gurukripa hi kevalam shisahyasya parammanglam.
Ye kaljug hai,bhai yaha vedome,shastrome bataye ,raste hi step by step sakshatkar hoga aisa nhi hai,p.bapujji ke satsang me suna tha, unki shisya ek budhi matajii ISS jug me bhi sansari bankar bhi
Lobh, moh,rag-dwesh adii hatakar apni atm masti me khush rahati thi.aur unki apni mataji bhi rag-dwesh rahit jeevan jii rahi thi,phir maa mahangiba ki shraddha ka fayada uthakar bapuji ne unka kaam poora kiya 'mai sharir nhi hoon,atma hoon'
Is bhumika me unhe pahuncha diya. (sakshatkar)
Abhi hamari bhumika ,to shabri bhilan jaisi hai Jo ramjike intejaar me apna kartavya nibha rahi thi.Hum bhi apni sansarik jimmedari-bacche pati adi ke prati apna kartYa nibha rahe hai gurudev ka smaran karake . Shabri ki nai nistha hai abhi intejar hai ki hamara bhi kaam ban jayega,shabri ki nai hamare liye bhi pratyksha/apratyaksha roop me ram-sadguru aayenge aur usi atmashakahatkar ki stiti me le chalenge.
Abhi toh hamari bhumika usi shabri ki nai hai,Jo apne ram ka intejar kar rahi hai.....usko ram mile. Hame bhi jaroor milenge.harihariom.
Hariomji,aapka sawwal sahi hai hame apni khud ki bhumika ka yatarth Gyan Hona chahiye taki hum manzil ki taraf jald pahunch jayenge.
On Mar 24, 2014 11:42 AM, "AMAN KUMAR JHA" <amankr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> hari om prabhu,
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> yeh aatmasakshtkar kie bhoomika ka kya matlab hai?(kabhi satsang mein nahin suna).
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Rajeshri Chandavle
Hariom,
Something...want to share
Abhi to hamari ye extended life samazo Agar Pujya bapuji hamari life me nhi hote to hum nhi hote. Baar baar sukhi aur dukhi hote rahate,
Abhi to,
Sansar me rahakar hamare liye sabkuch Bapuji hi hai .
Hame jaha pahuchana chahiye vo pahuncha denge.
Pahle to sansarik suvidha badhane ka prayatna tha,ab uddesh bhi bapuji hai,marg bhi bapuji hai.
Vo. (bapuji) jis haal me rakhenge manjoor hai.
Hariom.
hari om prabhu,yeh aatmasakshtkar kie bhoomika ka kya matlab hai?(kabhi satsang mein nahin suna).
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