vasana & difference between nirvasnik and nirvikalp stithi

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naman_hariom

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Jun 30, 2012, 5:34:28 AM6/30/12
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vasana kya hai aur usko kaise hataye? nisankalp kaise ho? nirvasnik
hone mei aur nirvikalp samadhi mei kya difference hai?

Naveen Tirthani

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Jul 5, 2012, 9:28:17 AM7/5/12
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meri samah se-
vasana means apne se bahar aana...
nihsankalp
(koi sankalp na hona) hone se samarthya aata hai, nirvikalp samadhi me koi kalpana nahin hoti... jaise gahri neend me hota hai.... shant... nihsankalp
lekin nirvasnik hona matlab... apne gyan me rahna... apne aap me rahna.
sankalp shant hone se kaam nahin banta... sankalp ke beej ko nasht karne se kaam banta hai... vasna ko nasht karne se kaam banta hai, aur ye hota hai satsang se.

vaise aisa bhi kaha gaya hai ki ek baar 3 min tak nihsankalp ho gaye to apne aap gyan ho jata hai. aisa vo sukh hai.

om shanti

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Jul 5, 2012, 9:37:50 AM7/5/12
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Jul 5, 2012, 11:34:35 AM7/5/12
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hariomji
3 min wali baat samajh nhi aayi , agar aisa hota toh jinki nirvikalp
samadhi lagti hai yog se unko gyan kyon nahi ho jata woh log toh kayi
varsh tuk samadhi mei rhete hai par phir bhi gyani nahi kehlate,,
jaise ki changdev aur san gyaneshwar ka prasang hai,,
aur sahaj nirvikalp samadhi kya hai?

Naveen Tirthani

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Jul 7, 2012, 7:29:47 AM7/7/12
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HariOm ji,
Kindly listen Satshishya ke liye - Audio . There Pujya Bapuji mentioned it as gap between two vrittis.
I dont know exactly abt the samadhi of Changdev and others... but yes Pujya Bapuji said... 
gahri neend me to koi vritti nahin uthti - us samay hume gyan ho jaaye....
ya thambe ko to kabhi koi vritti nahin uthti .. ...
better would be if we listen this satsang

Bapuji said- Yahan avaran bhang karne ki avashyakta padti hai...

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Sandeep Bajaj

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Jul 21, 2012, 11:37:10 AM7/21/12
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 sadar hari om ji 120 mala omkaar (ya omkaar sahit guru mantra my view) jap se nirvikalp or nirvasnik hone ke sath sath atmsaakshtkar sambhav hai
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