Fedora as a Server OS

[Glen Peterson]

Kirk Fort just told me that Fedora supports painless major version
upgrades in place! I know and highly respect several people who run
it as a desktop OS. But how does Fedora fare as a server OS? Are the
software too cutting edge for that, with patches coming out much more
often than say, RedHat? I'd love to take advantage of painless major
OS version upgrades in place on a server!

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[Jim Salter]

DON'T DO IT.

Fedora pretty much defines the term "bleeding edge", as in "it may cut
you and you may need band-aids".

Do not depend on Fedora in production.

[Kirk Fort]

I agree with this, although it will be interesting to see the future of Fedora with the recently announced Fedora.next plan. The idea is that the distribution will be segmented into separate workstation, server, and cloud releases.

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[Kirk Fort]

I'll also remind everyone that CentOS is basically RHEL - Red Hat support, and has recently been endorsed and supported by Red Hat in much the same way as Fedora.

[Jeremy Sands]

I must have a drastically different definition of "painless" than Kirk, or
things have drastically changed in the last 4-5 releases. I have still
never been able to dist-upgrade a Fedora machine configured as a real
world desktop (read: third party repos for non-free stuff everybody has).

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[Kirk Fort]

It was introduced in Fedora 18

[Jeremy Sands]

If you'd love a rolling server, I humbly suggest the following as FAR
superior options, even if Fedora can reliably dist-upgrade which I'm very
skeptical of:

- Debian Testing
- Linux Mint Debian Edition
- Gentoo


I'd be happy to give a talk in the future at UCLUG on Gentoo as a server.
Been using Gentoo as a server for 11 years now ... and I have my very
first Gentoo server from 11 years ago STILL RUNNING without reinstalling.

Nothing against Fedora, FWIW. In fact, I find the people behind Fedora to
be uncannily pleasant great people to be around, and their community is
second to none.

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 11:24:40 -0400, Glen Peterson
<glen.k....@gmail.com> wrote:

[Kirk Fort]

Sorry if it wasn't clear, I think the conversation moved between lists, I was speaking of FedUp

[George Law]

Not necessarily upgraded but has anyone tried ksplice for in place live kernel patching?

On Jun 13, 2014 2:29 PM, "Jeremy Sands" <c...@jeremysands.com> wrote:

[Jonathan Nalley]

Things have changed drastically changed in the last 4-5 releases and
even more changes with >= 21. FedUp for the win!
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp

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[Jas Eckard]

I tried ksplice about 5 years ago, and I think it was still too new because it was still buggy, so I've shied away from since then... Need to try it again, it seems.

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