Flashback - Columbia University liberal Palin hater professor Epstein pleads guilty to misdemeanor charge of attempted incest

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TAGS: david epstein, incest, what a fool

Court documents show that Professor David Epstein (yep, he�s
still a professor here), pleaded guilty on May 10 to a
misdemeanor charge of attempted incest. The misdemeanor Epstein
pleaded guilty to is a step down from the felony charge of
incest he was originally hit with. Epstein will be placed under
conditional discharge (essentially a less invasive form of
probation) for one year.

Professor Epstein and his lawyer declined comment.

COMMENTS:

ich � June 7, 2011 at 3:58 pm � Reply
I hope Columbia gets rid of this guy. He is a huge liabliity for
the university.
Rating: -1 (from 1 vote)

todd � April 9, 2013 at 2:04 am � Reply
why is he a �huge liability�? its not like he is going to commit
incest with one of his students? oh, u think he might have sex
w/ one just because?
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Greg Townsend � April 21, 2013 at 7:23 pm �
One would think, operative word here�that a Columbia alumnus
would know the difference between what is and isn�t acceptable
behavior for civilized human beings. At the very least, be
educated sufficiently to understand why one shouldn�t do it.
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Whatever happened to.... � June 7, 2011 at 11:46 pm � Reply
consent is sexy??
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? � June 9, 2011 at 2:01 am � Reply
No one said it wasn�t consensual
Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

joseph � June 9, 2011 at 5:20 am � Reply
Creep,creep,creepy creep.
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joseph � June 9, 2011 at 12:19 am � Reply
I cannot believe he is going to still collect a salary here.The
authors of thisstory must have gotten wrong info. No way could
this university keep a convicted incest perv on. no way.
Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

Sam � June 9, 2011 at 3:07 pm � Reply
What really matters is that David Epstein is a fantastic
professor, respectful of his students. His private life has
nothing to do with his teaching skills. Besides, it seems that
the relationship, if true, was with a consensual adult.
Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

Anonymous � June 10, 2011 at 9:15 pm � Reply
ew jerk.. thats his daughter.
Rating: -2 (from 2 votes)

TMAC � June 23, 2011 at 12:10 pm �
So� he could kill babies, rob a bank, go on a murder spree,
torture small animals and generally rape, pillage and plunder �
but what counts is he is a good professor? Wow. Scary stupid.
Incest, whether consensual or not is illegal� and sick.
Rating: -2 (from 2 votes)

dave � July 10, 2011 at 12:04 pm � Reply
Sam � Is that the critical logic skills that your Columbia
education has provided you with. Doesn�t really matter what he
did, he�s a pretty good teacher so all is good. Eating babies,
boning his own daughter,�
Wow, think much?
Rating: -1 (from 1 vote)

AustrianEconomicsFTW � December 13, 2011 at 11:33 pm � Reply
There�s northing �fantastic� about Keynesian economics. He
brainwashes students with bad economics. He should never be
allowed in class again.
Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

Greg Townsend � April 21, 2013 at 7:25 pm � Reply
So Charles Manson, as an expert on manipulative psychological
behavior, would be acceptable to you?
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Full Marriage Equality � June 21, 2011 at 10:07 am � Reply
Consenting adults should be able to pursue love, sex, and
marriage (or not) with any other adults. Either we take
�consenting adults� and �right to privacy� and �my body, my
choice� seriously, or we don�t. A woman of age 18 can sue or be
sued, go to prison for life, serve in the military, operate
motor vehicles and heavy machinery, consent to sex with men or
women they just met. Are we to say they can�t consent to sex
with a close relative?
Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

gulp � June 22, 2011 at 10:11 am � Reply
�Are we to say they can�t consent to sex with a close relative?�
Ever heard of three-eyed babies? The shallow end of the gene
pool? Do you understand that your precious definition of
consenting adult goes against millions of years of evolutionary
trial and error? You�d swim upstream against all that for a
libertine toss in the hay with dear ol� dad?
Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

Zach � July 5, 2011 at 10:58 am �
�Ever heard of three-eyed babies?�
Ever heard of condoms? Incest became a crime before we had
effective contraception methods.
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dave � July 10, 2011 at 12:06 pm �
Zach. Yeah, that�s it. Incest is OK as you wrap it up.
Dude, you may want to rethink that, or are you boning sis right
now
Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

Greg Townsend � April 21, 2013 at 7:30 pm � Reply
@ Full Marriage Equality, you should have paid more attention in
several classes � back in high school. Biology, science, child
development, American Problems� You�re lacking the necessary
fundamentals to reason your way out of the hole you just dug for
yourself.
Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

Richard Cranium � June 22, 2011 at 11:13 am � Reply
What a filthy disgusting human being. You think this wasn�t
happening her entire life? Naive dopes! She was molested as a
child and now is a consenting adult!!! Liberals suck!!! And
Columbia should be boycotted. Sam and Full Marriage Equality are
delusional scum.
Rating: -1 (from 1 vote)

todd � April 9, 2013 at 2:06 am � Reply
what is ur proof that she was molested as a child?? don�t make
assumptions ur cannot prove.
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Diablitos � June 25, 2011 at 7:38 pm � Reply
Full Marriage Equality evades the real issue in the pseudo-
liberating screed he or she posted. How can the child of a
parent ever give truly free consent? A parent, the relationship
that involves the closest bond of caring and nurturing one could
hope for, now being put forward by this person as a potential
sexual partner because it�s �about consent.� We don�t say a
child under 18 can give free consent with ANY sexual partner,
regardless of what they say. Why? Because their ability to give
that consent is completely undermined by their immaturity. A
professor in a sexual relationship with a student regardless of
the student�s age is engaging in a firing offense because of the
power dynamics that condition the relationship, regardless of
whether or not both participants are willing. How much more with
the child of a parent charged with being the one person in the
world whose love brings a son or daughter from childhood to
maturity? Utterly morally depraved that someone could posit this
in terms of liberative politics.
Rating: +1 (from 3 votes)

Observer � June 29, 2011 at 11:40 pm � Reply
What�s missing from this debate is that there�s a difference
between what we feel is wrong and what�s against the law. We
don�t outlaw sex that we think is icky (see Lawrence v. Texas).
We don�t outlaw sex where birth defects are possible (or pre-
menopausal women over 40 couldn�t have sex). We don�t outlaw sex
with power differentials or even coercive sex � bosses don�t get
arrested for sleeping with their secretaries, and even
professors sleeping with their students or doctors with their
patients are punished within their institutions but not by the
law.
In fact, nowhere else do we completely outlaw two consenting
adults from having sex with each other. And nowhere else does
the inherent power differential between parents and children
stop them from participating in arrangements that other adults
can participate in � parents and their children can still sign
contracts with each other, for instance.
So those who think this case should go the same way � that the
government has no business interfering in the most personal part
of people�s lives � do have a point. In fact, I thought that
conservatives were all for smaller government. Why not here?
Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

Another Observer � July 11, 2011 at 7:27 am � Reply
Listen: as someone who is going through an actual incest
situation with my in-laws (sis-in-law is in a �consentual�
position) I can tell you now that there is NO such thing as
consentual incest between father and daughter.
Think about what you people are saying: that someone just woke
up one day and thought �Hm, you know what? My Dad looks some
damn sexy.� That NEVER happens, people. Think back you how you
never like to think about your parents doing the deed. Have you
ever met anyone that LIKES to think that?
No. That�s practically universal. In order for this guy to have
even had the temerity to go for �attempted� incest, he was
probably already engaging in child molestation from some time
back.
How dare people here just write this off as �duh, yeah, we don�t
outlaw sex on other power differentials�. Makes me wonder what
possible motive one might have for writing such a statement.
Absolute drivel. Incest is ALWAYS non-consentual. It is ALWAYS
rape. You know why? Because the child has ALWAYS been
conditioned to think of the behavior as �normal�, and was
approached when they were children. They were taken advantage of
previously in an attempt to pave the road for when they are
adults. It is a form of brainwashing.
I happen to have also seen the results of an adult approached by
a relative when there was NO lead up. To say they got kicked to
the curb in no time flat is an understatement. In THAT
situation, many years ago (10+), the girl still has still never
spoken with the uncle and thinks they�re the scum of the earth.
That is the universal reaction unless there is a mental health
issue at work.
Read some psychology books and it is all in there. There are
specific disorders incest causes, especially incest between
parents and children. It destroys their ability to function
fully in society, and makes it harder for them to find happiness
with other human beings because their trust is taken away on a
subconscious level. Find an incest victim and I�ll show you
someone that has difficulty relating to the opposite sex.
How DARE people write this off as �yeah, just another power
imbalance situation�. It is NOT. Children of all ages inherently
look up to their parent. As if this could POSSIBLY, on ANY level
be comparable to bosses sleeping with their secretaries. Makes
me wonder why you would suggest that, Observer� makes me wonder
indeed.
Rating: +1 (from 3 votes)

todd � April 9, 2013 at 2:08 am � Reply
I started having sex w/ my daughter when she was 17. she is not
25. she was out of my life cuz of divorce and found me. we
eventually started doing it. its called Genetic Sexual
Attraction.
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Rich Grewe � April 21, 2013 at 7:33 pm �
It�s called liberalism run amok. The same thing happened back in
the 60's, but the hippies could blame it on acid and pot. What
drugs are you and your concubine of a daughter using?
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Observer � July 16, 2011 at 10:50 pm � Reply
This topic generates a lot of passion and accusations, which is
one reason why it�s hard to discuss rationally. Let me just say
that the New York DA�s office is quite aware of the laws against
child molestation, and if that were an aspect of this case I can
assure you that they wouldn�t be shy about bringing those
charges as well. That�s what makes this an unusual case; rarely
is this type of act the most serious charge, let alone the only
one.
There are indeed differences between family relations and work
relations. But unless you can prove that incestual sex
invariably ends in harm � and throwing around terms like �never�
and �always,� even if you do it in all caps, doesn�t count as a
proof � then the fact remains that this is the one form of
consensual adult sexual relations that the law prohibits (in
some states), and we should really think whether we want the
government to have that kind of power.
Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

Anonymous � November 30, 2011 at 6:29 am � Reply
I don�t want to live on this planet any more�
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physphilmusic � December 14, 2011 at 11:44 pm � Reply
Look at all those wonderful tolerant liberals now saying �YUCK�
to incest�what makes your �YUCK� any more valid than
conservatives� �YUCK� to gay sex eh?
Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

GARY SWEAT � February 18, 2012 at 9:04 am � Reply
I HAD INCEST WITH MY SISTER ALL THE TIME FROM 14 TO 23 YEARS OLD
TILL SHE GOT MARRIED.
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tom � April 9, 2013 at 2:10 am � Reply
My daughter Brittany and I started having sex after we met again
when she was 17 and she is now 25. No one forced her. In fact,
she was the one who �found� me.
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Rich Grewe � April 21, 2013 at 7:35 pm � Reply
With lowlife liberals like these polluting America, it�s no
wonder Barack Obama got elected. Twice.
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