The European Scam Story - setting the record straight with John Palmer and Joe Baptista
Joe Baptista
address him on the GA. I think this is an appropriate place for a
discussion of the HEX project in the Netherlands. HEX represents a
significant fracturing of the Internet because of a name space scam
operated out of the Netherlands between a number of people most of whom
are now under investigation by the local authorities on the other side
of the pond. I feel ICANN is to an extent responsible for this scam as
are national governments like turkey. Even Vint Cerf knew what was
going on. So did the turks. Even Paul Vixie fractured the Internet
that year by providing root service to the Open Root Server Network.
However, before I go into a detailed reply to Mr. Palmer I must disclose
and declare a direct or indirect conflict of interest between my
position as monitor to this General Assembly and my association with Mr.
Palmer. I was once a volunteer, and later employee of INAIC and the
PublicRoot Ltd in the U.K. Mr. Palmer continues his participation with
INAIC as an active member. Furthermore, I was a member of the TLDA, Mr.
Palmer continues to be a member of the TLDA. Mr. Palmer is also a
director of the TLDA and has held various positions at the TLDA. And
Mr. Palmer and I are directors in Planet Communications and Computing
Facility, a canadian federal corporation. etc. etc. etc.
With that said I don't think I'm in any position to act as a monitor on
anything dealing with John Palmer and I therefore can not act on any
complaints concerning John Palmer. Thank god we have two moderators.
Anyway, now that I have cleared with you the conflict of interest it is
time I proceed to reply to Mr. Palmer.
Palmer, John wrote:
> >Mr. Palmers organization (INAIC) claims it is "an international,
> >not-for-profit, service agency organized and dedicated to the
>
> I am a volunteer root operator for Public Root. I have nothing to do
> INAIC.
> INAIC is not in any way, shape or form "my organization". I have nothing
> to do with them and have no authority at all.
>
> Mr. Baptista, in his usual fashion, is attempting to paint a picture
> to suit his
> agenda, but unfortunatly, his picture lacks any real factual basis.
>
Mr. Palmer - please. You are a member of an organization that is the
biggest alternative name space scam on the net. Shame! You continue to
actively participate in this scam. Shame, shame, shame on you. And
shame on me if I let you get away with it.
As for my position in this - my position is key as I am the one who blew
the scam up back in 2005. And you have never forgiven me for that. How
much money did you say in that email you sent me that you lost in this
scam - $100,000? Peanuts. This is a multimillion dollar scam involving
some of the biggest names in european business. You sir have been
providing criminals and money launders with root operations and lending
them the credibility of your name.
Let us not forget I was hired by the INAIC, the scam you continue to
participate and support, to provide guidance on behalf of the internet
community and act as an ad hoc ombudsman to ensure the project was
honest and remained true to the principles of the name space community.
Remember those principles John? That we would at all times be "Open,
Transparent, Inclusive, Representative & Accountable" to the Internet
community.
Let us not forget Mr. Palmer that you and I were both involved in this
scam since the year 2003. However I refused to participate when I found
out it was a scam. Mr. Palmer unfortunately continues to be an active
participant and appologist for the scam.
Now I consider Mr. Palmer and myself to be victims of this scam.
However I refuse to play the role of victim and role over and play
dead. Unfortunately Mr. Palmer continues to play the role of fool as he
rejects all the evidence presented to him of this scam. Including
recent disclosures of intentional fraud by his organization against
trademark and brand name holders.
The General Assembly is of course aware of this recent scams too. I
have posted my notices of complaint here as I have posted them to other
lists associated with the TLDA and other root systems. The trademark
holders affected by this scam are Philips Electronic, AkzoNobel the drug
manufacturer, and KFC the kentucky fried chicken people over at Yum!
Brands, Inc. Mr. Palmer is aware of these recent scams. He is fully
informed having received supporting evidence in the form of emails
directly from these multinational corporations who want Palmers
organization INAIC to stop using their brand names without authorization.
He is fully aware. But he continues to close his eyes to the truth and
blindly provides them with services and what is left of his good name.
For this John I say to you - SHAME!
Also let us not forget in closing who put an end to this scam. Back in
2005 the HEX scam in which Palmer is an active participant was earning
about 70,000 to 100,000 USD per month. I put the brakes on the scam in
August of 2005. The scams income was reduced to zero when I went public
and blew the whistle. Today the scam artist behind Palmer earns about
1,000 USD per month. People are still being scammed but at a much
reduced rate. And I take credit for that.
>
> > The TLDA has made no such claim that we are any authority in the
> > namespace. This is a false statement on his part.
> >
> >Mr. Palmer and I are at odds over this claim. I claim Mr. Palmers has a
> >direct conflict of interest between the TLDA and INAIC and is misleading
> >this assembly with respect to the TLDA. The TLDA has a clear policy
> >governing it's authority over the Inclusive Name Space. That authority
> >of the TLDA is found under its bylaws being Article I section 5 and all
> >of Article II. Which see the archived bylaws
> >
> >http://www.publicroot.org/tlda/TLDA/official/bylaws_current.htm
> ...
> >----- By law snippet end
> >
> >I hope this clarifies the issues concerning the TLDAs authority.
>
> The bylaws say nothing about our claim to be the authority. It states
> that we
> are a trade organization of TLD holders and it gives our OPINION and
> VIEWPOINT
> about what direction we think the industry should take. Its our
> opinion and nothing
> else. Also, keep in mind that the byLaws are being completly
> re-written (by myself,
> since no one else wants to do the work) - I assure you that the new
> byLaws will
> make it perfectly clear that we will make no such claim to be any
> authority.
>
Yes I have no doubt your rewriting the bylaws at a furious pace. At
this stage I recognize the TLDA has essentially been captured. Two of
the current directors - Mr. Palmer and Gene Marsh both have direct or
indirect conflicts of interest between their roles on the TLDA and
INAIC. Palmer is a root operator and an active volunteer of INAIC.
Gene Marsh resigned his position as INAIC council member shortly after I
went public. So theres a potential conflict there. Both of these
directors at the TLDA have failed repeatedly to diclosure their
conflicts to the board of the TLDA.
I dispute Mr. Palmers claim that the bylaws don't grant the TLDA
authority. Authority is in the bylaws defined by the proceedures to
create an inclusive name space. And that authority was granted the TLDA
by the original group of 37 members that founded the TLDA. That is
where the authority for the inclusive name space resides - with the
consent of this group.
Cheers
joe baptista
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Joe Baptista www.publicroot.org
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