Re: {TLDAInc} Re: The INAIC announces changes to its regulations and procedures regarding the registration of TLDs.
TLDA Member (David Scott)
that are already
in fraud?
Hell even the red-cross got sued.
Not-for-profit doesn't take the liability away.
Martijn Burger wrote:
> Bradley,
>
> Thanks for your comment, just a few remarks:
>
> - INAIC is not the registrar, the INAIC is " The Internet Names
> Authorization & Information Center (INAIC) is the official representative
> body for Public-Root, the next generation global Internet. The INAIC is an
> international, not-for-profit, service agency organized and dedicated to the
> maintenance of public information resources that facilitate the coordination
> and resolution of global Top-Level Domain names through the Public-Root
> server system"
>
> - We aren't policing, it's just a matter of proofing your identity and your
> rights to register a cTLD, rightfully being that company, brand or
> trademark.
>
> - The same kind of qualification is being used by http://mtld.mobi by which
> they use the database of the WIPO.
>
> Please also be advised that this is only a temporary measure until better
> methods of ensuring the integrity are available
>
> Regards,
>
> Martijn
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TLD...@googlegroups.com [mailto:TLD...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Bradley D. Thornton
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 1:30 AM
> To: TLD...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: {TLDAInc} Re: The INAIC announces changes to its regulations and
> procedures regarding the registration of TLDs.
>
>
> Comments below......
>
> Martijn Burger wrote:
>
>> Dear members of the Top Level Domain Association,
>>
>> I hereby would like to send you a link to the announcement that was
>> posted on the INAIC website today, regarding the changes to its
>> regulations and procedures for the registration of TLDs. These changes
>> were the result of several complaints the INAIC has received lately,
>> about the registration of corporate TLDs.
>>
>> http://inaic.com/index.php?p=news-18-10-2007
>>
>>
>
> That was pretty, um..... Well, it certainly wasn't the smartest thing to
> do - to say the least. All I can say to them is, "Welcome to the world
> of getting sued", coz now they've opened themselves up to being
> responsible for policing - not the job of a registry, or registrar. It's
> been done in the past (Look at what happened to .KIDS, for example), and
> it's destroyed more than one organization.
>
> Remember, once you step up to the policeman's plate, anything you err in
> after that is your accepted responsibility for failing to adequately police.
>
> References: The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (Complete and
> unabridged), by E. Gibbons. ;)
>
>
>> If you have any further questions or remarks, don't hesitate to
>> contact me.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Martijn Burger
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Joe Baptista
>- INAIC is not the registrar, the INAIC is " The Internet Names
>Authorization & Information Center (INAIC) is the official representative
>body for Public-Root, the next generation global Internet. The INAIC is an
>international, not-for-profit, service agency organized and dedicated to the
>maintenance of public information resources that facilitate the coordination
>and resolution of global Top-Level Domain names through the Public-Root
>server system"
>
>
Martijn Burger claims that "The Internet Names Authorization &
Information Center (INAIC) is the official representative body for
Public-Root, the next generation global Internet. The INAIC is an
international, not-for-profit, service agency organized and dedicated to
the maintenance of public information resources that facilitate the
coordination and resolution of global Top-Level Domain names through the
Public-Root server system". I disagree with that claim. It gives the
impression INAIC has consent or authority from anyone. It does not.
That consensus evaporated when I went public with the scam INAIC really is.
I am responsible for providing INAIC with the consent necessary to run
an experiment in the Inclusive Name Space. It would have succeeded if
it had remained honest. Under Herman Xennt it was dishonest and as such
it lost support from the community. That was due to my disclosures. It
lost the support of Karl Auerback (a very well respected insider and
former director of ICANN), The Council of Scientific Society Presidents,
The Government of Turkey, Tiscali Networks and many critical members of
the TLD legacy community etc etc. So it is incorrect that INAIC
continues this claim that it is authorized to maintain any resources
associated with the Inclusive Name Space. Mr. Burger you must stop
making this claim. It is misleading and considered a decpetive business
practice.
Furthermore, the resources it does maintain are bogus. Those resources
were produced by INAIC insiders. Being Herman Xennt and Paul
Scheepers. These two con artists have produced alot of bogus whois
database records. The information in those resources including all
dates can not be trusted. To continue making this claim before the
community is insulting.
Which brings me to a brief discussion of this investigation being
conducted by INAIC.
http://inaic.com/index.php?p=news-18-10-2007
concerning the Public Root Representative notices and complainst listed
here:
http://www.publicroot.org/correspondence/PR-NOTICE-Sept-21-2007.pdf
http://www.publicroot.org/correspondence/PR-NOTICE-Sept-24-2007.pdf
http://www.publicroot.org/correspondence/PR-NOTICE-Sept-27-2007.pdf
http://www.publicroot.org/correspondence/PR-NOTICE-Oct-11-2007.pdf
Herman Xennt who is in fact in charge of operations at INAIC is playing
a brand name and trademark scam. As TLDA members all know by now I have
made it very clear Herman Xennt is a scam artist and have provided
supporting evidence to that end. And recently the TLDA did the right
thing and asked Herman Xennt to resign - which he did. This was the
last nail in the Herman Xennt coffin. Never again will Herman Xennt or
INAIC be trusted by the community.
I will support this investigation by INAIC of what is just a small part
of an overall larger scam. However my support is qualified on this
investigation not being some bogus attempt at a coverup. But let me
make clear I expect an investigation of the financial records of these
sales as you Mr. Burger have promised. I expect the results of the
investigation to be made available to myself, the TLDA and to Mr.
Wernikoff at the Federal Trade Commission.
As I have said above I report to the TLDA members that I was promised by
Mr. Burger that he would get the accounting records for these
transactions from Xennt. Xennt is the sole person in control of the
financials for INAIC. He uses the web sites to scam unsuspecting tld
holders into this fraud and therefore controls the accounting records
that show the payments and their origins. Herman Xennt can produce
these financial records to Burger and the same should be done A.S.A.P.
in support of his claim that the records were properly registered.
So far all I have heard from Burger are the repeated excuses of Herman
Xennt. His most recent excuse is that some homeless people have spent
$12,000 USD buying up trademark names. This recent claim is of course
one of the most ridiculous claims yet made by Herman. Imagine, homeless
people paying Herman Xennt money to register phoney TLDs. This recent
claim by Herman goes against all logic.
Herman Xennt, stop smoking pot and get those financial records to Mr.
Burger. Because in the end Herman, we both know the truth. There are
no financial records supporting your claims because your the one who
registered these TLDs. Shame on you Herman Xennt. You have been
disgraced and yet continue the scam. A scam that once made you good
money, now its all nickles and dimes. Your a small time con artist
Herman Xennt.
Of corse with a con man like herman one expects excuse upon excuse but
never does he provide any supporting evidence he was not involved in
this scam. Hey if Herman made these sales - there is evidence of it.
And another small note to Mr. Burger and Herman Xennts resellers and
council members. One of the main issues in this scam is proving Herman
Xennt is involved. Every web site used in this scam is associated with
a private registration. There is no evidence anywhere except for the
court case between Herman Xennt and Martijn Burger that Herman Xennt is
involved in the scam. That means liability in this scam is personal to
Martijn Burger, and the council members and resellers, being Justin
Lorne Kaufman, Rhio Hartawan, Gerth van Roden, Jos Schrauwen, Dirk
Laureyssens, Paul Scheepers, Pranav Bhatt, Tadeh Davtian, and Angelo
Cheriyan.
So gentlemen, please understand, when your gooses get cooked you will
have no excuses available to you. You are all listed as responsible
parties in this scam and the only one who should be held responsible,
Herman Xennt, may very well get away with it leaving all of you holding
the bag being the responsibility and the liability for this scam.
regards
joe baptista
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