Ubuntu and flash cookies
Cybe R. Wizard
Here's a news article about flash cookies:
http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110838/cookies-cause-bitter-backlash?mod=family-kids_parents
Does anyone have knowledge of them and whether they affect ubuntu or
Linux browsers/software in general?
Cybe R. Wizard
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NoOp
>
> Here's a news article about flash cookies:
> http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110838/cookies-cause-bitter-backlash?mod=family-kids_parents
>
> Does anyone have knowledge of them and whether they affect ubuntu or
> Linux browsers/software in general?
Yes.
Adam Funk
>
> Here's a news article about flash cookies:
> http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110838/cookies-cause-bitter-backlash?mod=family-kids_parents
>
> Does anyone have knowledge of them and whether they affect ubuntu or
> Linux browsers/software in general?
They do. I installed the BetterPrivacy add-on in Firefox and
discovered I had flash cookies going back well over a year. I now
have it set to delete them after 90 minutes and when I close Firefox.
http://netticat.ath.cx/BetterPrivacy/BetterPrivacy.htm
Cybe R. Wizard
NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On 09/30/2010 08:24 AM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> >
> > Here's a news article about flash cookies:
> > http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110838/cookies-cause-bitter-backlash?mod=family-kids_parents
> >
> > Does anyone have knowledge of them and whether they affect ubuntu or
> > Linux browsers/software in general?
>
> Yes.
>
Heh. Thanks loads!
Cybe R. Wizard
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Tab Gilbert
> >
> > Here's a news article about flash cookies:
> > http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110838/cookies-cause-bitter-backlash?mod=family-kids_parents
> >
> > Does anyone have knowledge of them and whether they affect ubuntu or
> > Linux browsers/software in general?
>
tab
NoOp
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:58:07 -0700
> NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> On 09/30/2010 08:24 AM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>> >
>> > Here's a news article about flash cookies:
>> > http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110838/cookies-cause-bitter-backlash?mod=family-kids_parents
>> >
>> > Does anyone have knowledge of them and whether they affect ubuntu or
>> > Linux browsers/software in general?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
> Heh. Thanks loads!
>
> Cybe R. Wizard
:-) Glad to be of help :-)
Nils Kassube
> Here's a news article about flash cookies:
> http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110838/cookies-cause-bit
> ter-backlash?mod=family-kids_parents
>
> Does anyone have knowledge of them and whether they affect ubuntu or
> Linux browsers/software in general?
Sure Ubuntu is affected if you have flash installed. But flash cookies
aren't really new. Here is something even more sinister:
<http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/The-zombie-cookie-1095232.html>
Nils
Cybe R. Wizard
Nils Kassube <kas...@gmx.net> wrote:
> Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> > Here's a news article about flash cookies:
> > http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110838/cookies-cause-bit
> > ter-backlash?mod=family-kids_parents
> >
> > Does anyone have knowledge of them and whether they affect ubuntu or
> > Linux browsers/software in general?
>
> Sure Ubuntu is affected if you have flash installed. But flash cookies
> aren't really new. Here is something even more sinister:
> <http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/The-zombie-cookie-1095232.html>
>
>
> Nils
>
Oh, just wonderful. I suppose it will be
browse-in-a-virtual-environment for me from now on.
Cybe R. Wizard
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Tom H
<cyber_...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> Here's a news article about flash cookies:
> http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110838/cookies-cause-bitter-backlash?mod=family-kids_parents
>
> Does anyone have knowledge of them and whether they affect ubuntu or
> Linux browsers/software in general?
They affect any browser that uses flash in any OS or distribution.
On Linux, you can delete them from
/home/<user>/.macromedia/Flash_Player/
Robert Holtzman
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Cybe R. Wizard
> <cyber_...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> > Here's a news article about flash cookies:
> > http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110838/cookies-cause-bitter-backlash?mod=family-kids_parents
> >
> > Does anyone have knowledge of them and whether they affect ubuntu or
> > Linux browsers/software in general?
>
> They affect any browser that uses flash in any OS or distribution.
>
> On Linux, you can delete them from
> /home/<user>/.macromedia/Flash_Player/
On my box ~/.macromedia is empty. A better solution is the "Better
Privacy" extension (assuming you use Firefox).
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Key ID: 8D549279
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check the price of the beer"
Tom H
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 06:08:19PM -0400, Tom H wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Cybe R. Wizard
>> <cyber_...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Here's a news article about flash cookies:
>> > http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110838/cookies-cause-bitter-backlash?mod=family-kids_parents
>> >
>> > Does anyone have knowledge of them and whether they affect ubuntu or
>> > Linux browsers/software in general?
>>
>> They affect any browser that uses flash in any OS or distribution.
>>
>> On Linux, you can delete them from
>> /home/<user>/.macromedia/Flash_Player/
>
> On my box ~/.macromedia is empty. A better solution is the "Better
> Privacy" extension (assuming you use Firefox).
Then "Better Privacy" must be doing its job...
NoOp
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Robert Holtzman <hol...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 06:08:19PM -0400, Tom H wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Cybe R. Wizard
>>> <cyber_...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Here's a news article about flash cookies:
>>> > http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110838/cookies-cause-bitter-backlash?mod=family-kids_parents
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone have knowledge of them and whether they affect ubuntu or
>>> > Linux browsers/software in general?
>>>
>>> They affect any browser that uses flash in any OS or distribution.
>>>
>>> On Linux, you can delete them from
>>> /home/<user>/.macromedia/Flash_Player/
>>
>> On my box ~/.macromedia is empty. A better solution is the "Better
>> Privacy" extension (assuming you use Firefox).
>
> Then "Better Privacy" must be doing its job...
>
Just be careful with 'Better Privacy' et al; many banking sites use the
macromedia folder to store their cookies (Chase Bank is an example) & if
you get the settings wrong those cookies get deleted. The result is that
you then need to do an email exchange with the bank the next time you
try to log in & that can become a real PITA if you log into your bank
frequently.
Basil Chupin
> On 2010-09-30, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>
>
>> Here's a news article about flash cookies:
>> http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110838/cookies-cause-bitter-backlash?mod=family-kids_parents
>>
>> Does anyone have knowledge of them and whether they affect ubuntu or
>> Linux browsers/software in general?
>>
> They do. I installed the BetterPrivacy add-on in Firefox and
> discovered I had flash cookies going back well over a year. I now
> have it set to delete them after 90 minutes and when I close Firefox.
>
> http://netticat.ath.cx/BetterPrivacy/BetterPrivacy.htm
>
Thanks for this - didn't know about this Addon. Now installed - and
these cookies now won't last 2 seconds on this computer.
BC
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Christina Aquilera
Basil Chupin
I've had Ghostery installed now for many, many months but installing
BetterPrivacy found 2 pages of (hidden) cookies.
BC
--
"So where's the Cannes Film Festival being held this year?"
Christina Aquilera
Tab Gilbert
> Ghostery is also a helpful extension if you want to cut down on third
> party data collection.
>
> tab
> They do. I installed the BetterPrivacy add-on in Firefox and
> discovered I had flash cookies going back well over a year. I now
> have it set to delete them after 90 minutes and when I close Firefox.
>
> http://netticat.ath.cx/BetterPrivacy/BetterPrivacy.htm
I've had Ghostery installed now for many, many months but installing
BetterPrivacy found 2 pages of (hidden) cookies.
BC
Thanks for the info on Better Privacy and the Ghostery vs. Better Privacy comparison. I am going to give it a spin.
tab
Basil Chupin
> On 09/30/2010 07:11 PM, Tom H wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Robert Holtzman<hol...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 06:08:19PM -0400, Tom H wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Cybe R. Wizard
>>>> <cyber_...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here's a news article about flash cookies:
>>>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110838/cookies-cause-bitter-backlash?mod=family-kids_parents
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have knowledge of them and whether they affect ubuntu or
>>>>> Linux browsers/software in general?
>>>>>
>>>> They affect any browser that uses flash in any OS or distribution.
>>>>
>>>> On Linux, you can delete them from
>>>> /home/<user>/.macromedia/Flash_Player/
>>>>
>>> On my box ~/.macromedia is empty. A better solution is the "Better
>>> Privacy" extension (assuming you use Firefox).
>>>
>> Then "Better Privacy" must be doing its job...
>>
>>
> Just be careful with 'Better Privacy' et al; many banking sites use the
> you get the settings wrong those cookies get deleted. The result is that
> you then need to do an email exchange with the bank the next time you
> frequently.
>
From the quick once-over while I was installing BetterPrivacy, you have
the ability to protect a cookie from deletion which would solve this
problem with banks. But as I said, it was only a quick once-over, and
since I never do any banking over the net this is not a problem for me
anyway.
BC
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Christina Aquilera
Nils Kassube
> On Linux, you can delete them from
> /home/<user>/.macromedia/Flash_Player/
When I read for the first time about that Linux location for flash
cookies, I deleted everything in that directory and then made it owned
by root. Now that directory stays empty even without any plugins. :)
Nils
Doug
> On 01/10/2010 01:52, Adam Funk wrote:
>
>> On 2010-09-30, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Here's a news article about flash cookies:
>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110838/cookies-cause-bitter-backlash?mod=family-kids_parents
>>>
>>> Does anyone have knowledge of them and whether they affect ubuntu or
>>> Linux browsers/software in general?
>>>
>>>
>> They do. I installed the BetterPrivacy add-on in Firefox and
>> discovered I had flash cookies going back well over a year. I now
>> have it set to delete them after 90 minutes and when I close Firefox.
>>
>> http://netticat.ath.cx/BetterPrivacy/BetterPrivacy.htm
>>
>>
> Thanks for this - didn't know about this Addon. Now installed - and
> these cookies now won't last 2 seconds on this computer.
>
> BC
>
>
top of
the page (this was in Windows) and nothing happened. I went to the Wiki
page and found a link for windows and snapped on it and was able to install.
However, the page has downloads for windows and mac os-X, but nothing
for Linux.
I went to the main page in Linux and snapped on the blue gadget and again
nothing happened. How did you d/l this for Linux? I'd like to put this in
PcLinuxOs, Ubuntu, and Debian. (PCLO is a KDE distro, the other two are
Gnome, if it matters.)
Tried to get file with apt-get install. System said it was doing something
about dependencies (I forget the wording) and then said it couldn't find
BetterPrivacy. (PcLOs.)
Please bear in mind that I'm a tyro with file management, etc. in Linux.
If it doesn't show in Synaptic, or the file-getters in Debian or Ubuntu,
I usually can't get the file!
--doug
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Thufir Hawat
> Sure Ubuntu is affected if you have flash installed. But flash cookies
> aren't really new. Here is something even more sinister:
> <http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/The-zombie-
> cookie-1095232.html>
Ah, the evercookie. I was blithely assuming Firefox dealt with all that
until just a few days ago. Yet another reason to lament javascript.
-Thufir
Basil Chupin
> Tom H wrote:
>
>> On Linux, you can delete them from
>> /home/<user>/.macromedia/Flash_Player/
>>
> When I read for the first time about that Linux location for flash
> cookies, I deleted everything in that directory and then made it owned
> by root. Now that directory stays empty even without any plugins. :)
>
Nice.
But while I haven't done the above before (not that I can remember), I
use Firefox and I installed the Addon earlier today and now I see that
my /.macromedia sub-dir is totally empty.
BC
--
"So where's the Cannes Film Festival being held this year?"
Christina Aquilera
Basil Chupin
Well, I did nothing special except to do what FF "told" me to do.
I clicked on Tools/Addons/Get Addons/Browse All Addons then searched for
the addon. Clicked on the Add to Firefox...and installed it.
Nothing really mind-boggling.
The only thing I had to do is to restart FF, as the answer to the
question after the addon is installed, and then configure the addon.
I don't know why you had to got to (?)netticat to do any of this.
Your Firefox should automatically select the correct version to install
when you go to Tools/Addons/Get Addons etc.
BC
--
"So where's the Cannes Film Festival being held this year?"
Christina Aquilera
Vaibhav Dalvi
open Tools > Addons in Firefox's main menu. There in search box type betterprivacy. You will get an entry in the results for this. Just install it right off.
And it's firefox's plugin the OS shouldn't matter.
-vb
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See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Robert Holtzman
> On 01/10/2010 02:38, Tab Gilbert wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ghostery is also a helpful extension if you want to cut down on third
> > party data collection.
> >
> > tab
>
> I've had Ghostery installed now for many, many months but installing
> BetterPrivacy found 2 pages of (hidden) cookies.
I don't think Ghostery has anything to do with cookies, hidden or
otherwise. Can anyone correct me if I'm wrong?
Tom H
> On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 01:03:34PM +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
>> On 01/10/2010 02:38, Tab Gilbert wrote:
>> >
>> > Ghostery is also a helpful extension if you want to cut down on third
>> > party data collection.
>>
>> BetterPrivacy found 2 pages of (hidden) cookies.
>
> I don't think Ghostery has anything to do with cookies, hidden or
> otherwise. Can anyone correct me if I'm wrong?
You're right.
Basil Chupin
> On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 01:03:34PM +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
>
>> On 01/10/2010 02:38, Tab Gilbert wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ghostery is also a helpful extension if you want to cut down on third
>>> party data collection.
>>>
>>> tab
>>>
>> I've had Ghostery installed now for many, many months but installing
>> BetterPrivacy found 2 pages of (hidden) cookies.
>>
> I don't think Ghostery has anything to do with cookies, hidden or
> otherwise. Can anyone correct me if I'm wrong?
>
The probable answer is NO, but I was replying to the statement which
implied that Ghostery helped to solve the problem with cookies. Ghostery
doesn't appear to solve the cookie problem mentioned in the thread - but
I am not an expert; all I stated was that even though I have using
Ghostery for months the BetterPrivacy found 2 pages of cookies - and I
also have FF set to delete all cookies when I close FF.