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tommie ramirez andujar

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Nov 27, 2009, 2:40:44 PM11/27/09
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do my messages reach the list?

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Leonard Chatagnier

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Nov 27, 2009, 2:46:11 PM11/27/09
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John Abbott

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Nov 27, 2009, 2:57:33 PM11/27/09
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Yes.  Apparently the list is set up not to send your posts back to you.  I never see any of mine either.

Steve

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:00:26 PM11/27/09
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On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:57:33 -0000, John Abbott <fewc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes. Apparently the list is set up not to send your posts back to you.
> I never see any of mine either.
>

It’s not a list setting, it’s a feature of gmail.
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Wade Smart

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:06:28 PM11/27/09
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Steve wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:57:33 -0000, John Abbott <fewc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes. Apparently the list is set up not to send your posts back to you.
>> I never see any of mine either.
>>
> It’s not a list setting, it’s a feature of gmail.

I personally like to see my posts so, I put a bcc in my email so I see
it in my ubuntu folder in Thunderbird.
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John Abbott

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:11:28 PM11/27/09
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On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 14:06 -0600, Wade Smart wrote:
Steve wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:57:33 -0000, John Abbott <fewc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes.  Apparently the list is set up not to send your posts back to you.
>> I never see any of mine either.
>>
> It’s not a list setting, it’s a feature of gmail.

I personally like to see my posts so, I put a bcc in my email so I see 
it in my ubuntu folder in Thunderbird.
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Well actually you aren't seeing a post from the list but just a copy of what you have sent to the list.  Proving I suppose that the message made it to your mail server.  I have my lists set up to echo the message to everyone - because like us, lots of folks like some form of feedback.

John Abbott

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:13:42 PM11/27/09
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Strange then that it echoes my posts to several Google Group email lists.

Wade Smart

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:17:40 PM11/27/09
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John Abbott wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 14:06 -0600, Wade Smart wrote:
>> Steve wrote:
>> > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:57:33 -0000, John Abbott <fewc...@gmail.com <mailto:fewc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yes. Apparently the list is set up not to send your posts back to you.
>> >> I never see any of mine either.
>> >>
>> > It’s not a list setting, it’s a feature of gmail.
>>
>> I personally like to see my posts so, I put a bcc in my email so I see
>> it in my ubuntu folder in Thunderbird.
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>> Registered Linux User: #480675
>> Registered Linux Machine: #408606
>> Linux since June 2005
>>
> Well actually you aren't seeing a post from the list but just a copy of
> what you have sent to the list. Proving I suppose that the message made
> it to your mail server. I have my lists set up to echo the message to
> everyone - because like us, lots of folks like some form of feedback.
>

Well, right, and I know that. I just to like to see my message so
when/if its answered, I have a thread showing the problem and possible
solution.

Wade

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John Abbott

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:42:02 PM11/27/09
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On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 14:17 -0600, Wade Smart wrote:
Well, right, and I know that. I just to like to see my message so
when/if its answered, I have a thread showing the problem and possible
solution.

Wade

Sorry Wade, I didn't mean to infer any lack of skills toward you.  I don't use the thread feature but prefer to using the search functions when retrieving a subject or thread.  I wasn't thinking.

Steve

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Nov 27, 2009, 4:57:55 PM11/27/09
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On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:06:28 -0000, Wade Smart <wade...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Steve wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:57:33 -0000, John Abbott <fewc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. Apparently the list is set up not to send your posts back to you.
>>> I never see any of mine either.
>>>
>> It’s not a list setting, it’s a feature of gmail.
>
> I personally like to see my posts so, I put a bcc in my email so I see
> it in my ubuntu folder in Thunderbird.

My mail appears in the thread if somebody replies to it. I can’t remember
what setting I altered to do this though.

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Cybe R. Wizard

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Nov 27, 2009, 7:20:41 PM11/27/09
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On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:57:33 -0600
John Abbott <fewc...@gmail.com> wrote:

(corrected your top post for you, no thanks necessary.)


>
> On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 14:40 -0500, tommie ramirez andujar wrote:
>
> > do my messages reach the list?
> >
> Yes. Apparently the list is set up not to send your posts back to
> you. I never see any of mine either.

It isn't the list, it is gmail that doesn't give you your own posts
back.

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Leonard Chatagnier

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Nov 27, 2009, 7:28:27 PM11/27/09
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--- On Fri, 11/27/09, Cybe R. Wizard <cyber_...@mindspring.com> wrote:

From: Cybe R. Wizard <cyber_...@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: do my messages reach the list?
To: ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.com
Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 6:20 PM

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:57:33 -0600
John Abbott <fewc...@gmail.com> wrote:

(corrected your top post for you, no thanks necessary.)
>
> On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 14:40 -0500, tommie ramirez andujar wrote:
>
> > do my messages reach the list?
> >
> Yes.  Apparently the list is set up not to send your posts back to
> you. I never see any of mine either.

It isn't the list, it is gmail that doesn't give you your own posts
back.

The list does too if you so select.  I've never used gmail in my life and I don't get my post or replies unless someone replies to it.
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Cybe R. Wizard

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Nov 27, 2009, 7:39:20 PM11/27/09
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I haven't seen that option although admittedly I haven't been to the
sign-up page in quite a while. OTOH, are you sure it isn't Yahoo mail
doing the same thing for you as gmail is doing for the OP?

Leonard Chatagnier

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Nov 27, 2009, 9:55:36 PM11/27/09
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Pretty sure because I definitely remember seeing a selection to receive a copy of your post or not.  I was receiving a copy of my posts using Yahoo for a while, got tired of it, then deseleted getting a copy.
Leonard Chatagnier

Cybe R. Wizard

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Nov 27, 2009, 10:29:43 PM11/27/09
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On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:55:36 -0800 (PST)
Leonard Chatagnier <lenc...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Could it be this you remember:
"Would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest?"

I just visited
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
and couldn't find anything else remotely resembling that choice of
receiving your own posts or not.

John Abbott

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Nov 27, 2009, 10:31:11 PM11/27/09
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Is top posting preferred on this list?

On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 18:55 -0800, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> (corrected your top post for you, no thanks necessary.)
Old school was bottom posting.

Cybe R. Wizard

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Nov 27, 2009, 10:45:36 PM11/27/09
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It still is bottom or in-line posting that is preferred.

And, BTW, I wrote that, not Leonard.

Leonard

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Nov 28, 2009, 12:39:03 AM11/28/09
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Definitely not. I did get digest mail for a while but decided it's much
easier to receive individual mail.
I hated trying to respond to digest mail, everyone kept complaining and
someone suggested getting individual
posts which I did. Much easier to reply. In any case I don't receive a
copy of my original posts whether I use Yahoo web
mail, SM or TB.


> I just visited
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
> and couldn't find anything else remotely resembling that choice of
> receiving your own posts or not.
>

Funny you say that as I had a difficult time finding it the first time.
My 72 yr old brain doesn't remember
details as it once did. AIR, You had to log in and select the right
link(bottom of page, AIR) and it took you
to a long detailed list of options to choose from. I read over the
option to not receive your own posts a few times
and I think that applies to your replies to other posts unless someone
replies to it. AIR, it was at the beginning of
the list of options. I guess it could have been changed as its be some
time since I selected it but as said above, I don't
get copies of my post no matter what MUA I'm using. I believe the list
I'm referring to covers more that one screen
page and that there is a more abbreviated list that doesn't have the
option. Maybe you need to explore more of the
links at the bottom of the log in URL. I hope you can find it.
> Cybe R. Wizard
>


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Cybe R. Wizard

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Nov 28, 2009, 1:14:16 AM11/28/09
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Leonard <lenc...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Maybe you need to explore more of the
> links at the bottom of the log in URL. I hope you can find it.

I think your 72 YO brain is functioning just fine. I found it on the
unsubscribe or edit options page. I didn't even remember that I once
had entered a password there. Now I know more, thanks!

Leonard Chatagnier

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Nov 28, 2009, 9:51:05 AM11/28/09
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From: Cybe R. Wizard <cyber_...@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: do my messages reach the list?
To: ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.com
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 12:14 AM

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:39:03 -0600
Leonard <lenc...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Maybe you need to explore more of the
> links at the bottom of the log in URL.  I hope you can find it.

I think your 72 YO brain is functioning just fine.  I found it on the
unsubscribe or edit options page.  I didn't even remember that I once
had entered a password there.  Now I know more, thanks!


Cybe, glad you found it.  Nice to know I'm not getting senile just yet-:o)

John Abbott

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Nov 28, 2009, 12:48:19 PM11/28/09
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On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 16:28 -0800, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
It isn't the list, it is gmail that doesn't give you your own posts
back.

The list does too if you so select.  I've never used gmail in my life and I don't get my post or replies unless someone replies to it.
Leonard Chatagnier
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The point I was trying (obviously failed) to make was that the set up pages for the OWNER of the list has a choice of echoing or not.  It is possible to set up most lists to either send to all or send to all but the posting address.  Here is the setup from one of my lists.
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