Open source alternative to ArchiCAD for ubuntu 8.10 x64

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madana...@gmail.com

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Mar 19, 2009, 8:10:39 AM3/19/09
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Hi folks !
I deal with a lot of CAD and Building Information Modeling coz I design a lot of houses and other such buildings as I am an architect and as I would have probably told you guys in my last email I have just migrated from MS Windows Vista Business x64 and I would like to know weather or not there are any open source alternatives for my trusty ArchiCAD which are compatible with Ubuntu 8.10 x64 and if so then how much do they cost ?
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KMB
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Karl F. Larsen

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Mar 19, 2009, 8:23:15 AM3/19/09
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madana...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi folks !
> I deal with a lot of CAD and Building Information Modeling coz I design a lot of houses and other such buildings as I am an architect and as I would have probably told you guys in my last email I have just migrated from MS Windows Vista Business x64 and I would like to know weather or not there are any open source alternatives for my trusty ArchiCAD which are compatible with Ubuntu 8.10 x64 and if so then how much do they cost ?
> Yours ,
> KMB
> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
>
There are no AutoCAD products written for Linux. It is all written
for windows and I think you might be smart to go back to Windows XP.
Vista has many issues.


Karl


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Avi Greenbury

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Mar 19, 2009, 8:35:24 AM3/19/09
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madana...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi folks !
> I deal with a lot of CAD and Building Information Modeling coz I
> design a lot of houses and other such buildings as I am an architect
> and as I would have probably told you guys in my last email I have
> just migrated from MS Windows Vista Business x64 and I would like to
> know weather or not there are any open source alternatives for my
> trusty ArchiCAD which are compatible with Ubuntu 8.10 x64 and if so
> then how much do they cost ?
> Yours ,
> KMB

When I was at uni I did look for CAD software for Linux, though much
smaller-scale (and mostly 2D), and found lots that looked promising,
though I had to also have AutoCAD compatability, which doesn't quite
exist under Linux.

I cannot find the resource I found then, which is a shame, as it was
huge, the only product I can remember coming across was QCad.

There was definitely quite a large amount of engineer-orientated CAD
software for Linux, though a large proportion of it wasn't quite fully
polished. I've no idea what's different for Architects, though.

A quick google search found this list
http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/CADlinks.html

And an `apt-cache " CAD "` came up with the following, amonst others:
varkon - A CAD-system with parametric modelling
qcad - professional CAD system
which might well be worth a look.


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Franz Waldmüller

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Mar 19, 2009, 8:43:40 AM3/19/09
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madana...@gmail.com schrieb:

> Hi folks !
> I deal with a lot of CAD and Building Information Modeling coz I design a lot of houses and other such buildings as I am an architect and as I would have probably told you guys in my last email I have just migrated from MS Windows Vista Business x64 and I would like to know weather or not there are any open source alternatives for my trusty ArchiCAD which are compatible with Ubuntu 8.10 x64 and if so then how much do they cost ?
> Yours ,
> KMB
> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

check out http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/CAD the descriptions are in german,
but the list of CAD-programs could be a good starting point for a research.

As you are going to save a lot of money using Ubuntu you could try out
the commercial programs listed to.

wish you luck
Franz

madana...@gmail.com

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Hi karl .. Thanx 4 the advice but I wasn't referring to auto cad and what I really meant was that I wanted to know weather or not there are any open source 3D/2D CAD/Building Information Modeling software available for Ubuntu and I said ARCHICAD not AUTOCAD

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madana...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi folks !
> I deal with a lot of CAD and Building Information Modeling coz I design a lot of houses and other such buildings as I am an architect and as I would have probably told you guys in my last email I have just migrated from MS Windows Vista Business x64 and I would like to know weather or not there are any open source alternatives for my trusty ArchiCAD which are compatible with Ubuntu 8.10 x64 and if so then how much do they cost ?
> Yours ,
> KMB
> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
>

There are no AutoCAD products written for Linux. It is all written
for windows and I think you might be smart to go back to Windows XP.
Vista has many issues.


Karl


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Pastor JW

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Mar 19, 2009, 2:54:40 PM3/19/09
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On Thursday 19 March 2009 5:10:39 am madana...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi folks !
> I deal with a lot of CAD and Building Information Modeling coz I design a
> lot of houses and other such buildings as I am an architect and as I would
> have probably told you guys in my last email I have just migrated from MS
> Windows Vista Business x64 and I would like to know weather or not there
> are any open source alternatives for my trusty ArchiCAD which are
> compatible with Ubuntu 8.10 x64 and if so then how much do they cost ?

There's QCad that you might look at but it likely less than you are looking
for. And of course this way
http://architectafrica.com/bin0/news200411111_wine.html Also you may want to
take a look at http://www.cycas.de/produkt.php?s=en#top as they have gone to
also supporting modern computers!

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Dotan Cohen

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Mar 19, 2009, 3:00:44 PM3/19/09
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> I deal with a lot of CAD and Building Information Modeling coz I design a lot of houses and other such buildings as I am an architect and as I would have probably told you guys in my last email I have just migrated from MS Windows Vista Business x64 and I would like to know weather or not there are any open source alternatives for my trusty ArchiCAD which are compatible with Ubuntu 8.10 x64 and if so then how much do they cost ?

Please write to Graphisoft and let them know that there is demand for
ArchiCAD on Linux. Lots of these companies are contemplating Linux
products but if we do not display an interest then they certainly will
never write the software.

Here is their contact page:
http://www.graphisoft.com/contact/

Let us know what you wrote, and let us know what their response was. Thanks.

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NoOp

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Mar 19, 2009, 7:25:38 PM3/19/09
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On 03/19/2009 05:10 AM, madana...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi folks !
> I deal with a lot of CAD and Building Information Modeling coz I design a lot of houses and other such buildings as I am an architect and as I would have probably told you guys in my last email I have just migrated from MS Windows Vista Business x64 and I would like to know weather or not there are any open source alternatives for my trusty ArchiCAD which are compatible with Ubuntu 8.10 x64 and if so then how much do they cost ?
> Yours ,
> KMB
> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

Not free, but reasonably priced:

http://www.cycas.de/produkt.php?s=en&sys=lin#top
http://www.cycas.de/info.php?s=en#top
http://www.cycas.de/galerie.php?s=en&rn=1#top

You might look into a linux spell checker as well... :-)

kmadanante...@gmail.com

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Mar 19, 2009, 8:43:57 AM3/19/09
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Hi karl .. Thanx 4 the advice but I wasn't referring to auto cad and what I really meant was that I wanted to know weather or not there are any open source 3D/2D CAD/Building Information Modeling software available for Ubuntu and I said ARCHICAD not AUTOCAD
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Pastor JW

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Mar 19, 2009, 2:07:49 PM3/19/09
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On Thursday 19 March 2009 5:10:39 am madana...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi folks !
> I deal with a lot of CAD and Building Information Modeling coz I design a
> lot of houses and other such buildings as I am an architect and as I would
> have probably told you guys in my last email I have just migrated from MS
> Windows Vista Business x64 and I would like to know weather or not there
> are any open source alternatives for my trusty ArchiCAD which are
> compatible with Ubuntu 8.10 x64 and if so then how much do they cost ?

There's QCad that you might look at but it likely less than you are looking

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Karl F. Larsen

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Mar 22, 2009, 4:33:00 PM3/22/09
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kmadanante...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi karl .. Thanx 4 the advice but I wasn't referring to auto cad and what I really meant was that I wanted to know weather or not there are any open source 3D/2D CAD/Building Information Modeling software available for Ubuntu and I said ARCHICAD not AUTOCAD

In the USA there are 3 types of Autocad you can buy. They are Civil,
Mechanical, and Architectural drawing software and each package costs
about $3500.00 each. My son is a Civil Engineer and he owns 3 copies for
his business.

If your doing work for Business in the USA they will not accept
your work if it is done on any other software. In other countries they
may not be the same.

I went to Google and you can't buy ANY version of Autocad for
Ubuntu. There is a new version called Autocad LT which they sell for
just under $500.00 which is a real good deal but it runs on Windows.

Karl

Ray Parrish

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Mar 22, 2009, 6:58:28 PM3/22/09
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kmadanante...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi karl .. Thanx 4 the advice but I wasn't referring to auto cad and what I really meant was that I wanted to know weather or not there are any open source 3D/2D CAD/Building Information Modeling software available for Ubuntu and I said ARCHICAD not AUTOCAD
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Hello,

I'm a draftsman, or was... before I got put on disability,, and I have
QCad, and SaGcad installed on Ubuntu so far. Qcad seems to be a fairly
usable CAD program, with many nice features, including layers, and
dimensioning tools, but it is only 2D in nature.

SaGcad on the other hand doesn't seem as polished, in that it has no
menus at all, just toolbar buttons, and seemingly no way to enable any
menus. I also could not find a basic line drawing tool when I went
through all of it's buttons. It's from Japan, and even has some Japanese
lettering wthin it's interface.

I haven't examined the file types they output yet, so i'm not sure if
they are compatible with anything else in that respect. I also have
Inkscape Vector Graphics Editor installed, and it is a bit too
complicated for my tastes. I'm not sure what a person would draw with
it, and have only looked at it briefly, before giving up on creating
anything wiht it, as I was looking for a normal CAD program at that
point, not a high end graphics editor.

All of those are available in the Ubuntu repositories via the Synaptic
Package Manager. There is also Blender which is a 3D modeler / renderer
according to it's menu entry. There is also Pythoncad, which seems like
a fair 2D drafting program. It has no grid option, but does have
dimensioning, several types of line drawing tools, the ability to
specify your basic measurement units in either British or American
units, and layers as well.

I accidentally opened two windows with it, and then tried to changes the
preferences, with the result that when I attempted to save the
preferences, I got a "Pythoncad has crashed" message box, but both
Pythoncad windows kept running until I closed one of them manually.

I've just spent quite a bit of time investigating Open office Draw, and
it seems that it could be used as a quite good 2D drawing creator. It
does include 3D object insertion, has grids, many, many, drawing tool
types, paper size selection, dimensioning, and just about anything else
you would need to create professional drawings.

There well may be other packages available as well, but I haven't
searched the repositories as much as I could have yet.

Later, Ray Parrish

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Mar 23, 2009, 9:00:35 AM3/23/09
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Karl F. Larsen wrote:

> kmadanante...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi karl .. Thanx 4 the advice but I wasn't referring to auto cad and what
>> I really meant was that I wanted to know weather or not there are any
>> open source 3D/2D CAD/Building Information Modeling software available
>> for Ubuntu and I said ARCHICAD not AUTOCAD
>
> In the USA there are 3 types of Autocad you can buy.

...


> If your doing work for Business in the USA they will not accept
> your work if it is done on any other software. In other countries they
> may not be the same.
>
> I went to Google and you can't buy ANY version of Autocad for
> Ubuntu.

Which part of "I said ARCHICAD not AUTOCAD" was unclear? I have a builder
friend who does all of his work in some freeware 3D Home Design toy. If
you're building homes, you need something that will print plans acceptable
by your local planning department, and can quickly show the buyer what
they'll be getting. You don't need AutoCAD.

Unfortunately, I don't have a clue what's available for Linux.
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H.S.Rai

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Apr 4, 2009, 7:19:47 AM4/4/09
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On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Karl F. Larsen <klar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> CAD/Building Information Modeling software available for Ubuntu and I said
> ARCHICAD not AUTOCAD

AFAIK, nothing is there which can be termed as Building Information
Modeling (BIM).

Sweet Home 3D http://www.sweethome3d.eu/
CollabCAD www.collabcad.com/
Cademia http://www.cademia.org/frontend/index.php?sub=29

can be helpful.

> If your doing work for Business in the USA they will not accept
> your work if it is done on any other software.

Big issue. Don't we need open standard for CAD files, like documents.
Microsoft was forced to adopt open format OOXML, because of ODF.
AUTODESK will release its file format , if some international standard
effects his business. Why Governments are not asking standard format
for CAD files?

Google Sketchup is good, but it seems Google has no intention to
release it for Linux. They release Google Earth, only on finding other
similar software gaining popularity on Linux. These companies don't
port their solution to Linux or open their format, or follow open
standard unless they feel heat from competitive product. Even no
viewer is there on Linux for AutoCAD files (DWG), and SketchUp files.

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John Toliver

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Apr 5, 2009, 8:09:06 AM4/5/09
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This may be scratching your left ear with your right hand from behind
your head but I will throw it out there. Install virtual box, and
windows XP (definitely not vista) inside it and run archicad aor
whatever windows programs you need and have a happy.

I didn't believe this but I ran 8.04 for a a while and virtual box to
windows XP and this configuration worked very well on an old PIII.
The reverse configuration on the same hardware was a nightmare.

You can use virtualbox for compatibility until thesse companies decide
it's profitable which may be tomorrow, or whenever.

The only issues I can think of which you might want to research are
how VB on a x64 processor might handle (I would imagine better
mostly).

Hope this helps,

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Apr 5, 2009, 10:26:02 AM4/5/09
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On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 5:39 PM, John Toliver <john.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This may be scratching your left ear with your right hand from behind
> your head but I will throw it out there.  Install virtual box, and
> windows XP

Is there any advantage to run MSwinXP under VirtualBox, rather than
running it independently as in dual boot system.

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Xurxo Fernández Gismero

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Apr 5, 2009, 10:29:19 AM4/5/09
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2009-04-05 (日) の 19:56 +0530 に H.S.Rai さんは書きました:

> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 5:39 PM, John Toliver <john.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This may be scratching your left ear with your right hand from behind
> > your head but I will throw it out there. Install virtual box, and
> > windows XP
>
> Is there any advantage to run MSwinXP under VirtualBox, rather than
> running it independently as in dual boot system.
I think that not having to reboot to start with winxp makes a huge different. But there is more, you can save images of your windows installation so you can install stuff or do all the test you one and if something get messed up you can revert to your old installation.

Karl F. Larsen

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Apr 5, 2009, 11:01:48 AM4/5/09
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H.S.Rai wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 5:39 PM, John Toliver <john.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This may be scratching your left ear with your right hand from behind
>> your head but I will throw it out there. Install virtual box, and
>> windows XP
>>
>
> Is there any advantage to run MSwinXP under VirtualBox, rather than
> running it independently as in dual boot system.
>
>
I would push for a dual boot because AutoCad is a huge program. It
needs all the help it can get and then can fail. My son has it on a
laptop so he can take it to jobs with him. It runs on a fairly new
laptop but is very slow compared to when it is running at the Office on
a fast desktop.


Karl


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