[Bug 203349] Re: [Hardy] broken translation in amarok

[Harald Sitter]

For appearance in Adept see bug #212313

** Also affects: language-pack-kde-ru (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

** Summary changed:

- [Hardy] broken translation in amarok
+ Broken plural forms in KDE

** Also affects: language-pack-kde-hu (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

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Broken plural forms in KDE
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[Harald Sitter]

For appearance in D3lphin see bug #198864

** Also affects: language-pack-kde-en (Ubuntu)

[Harald Sitter]

For appearance in KTorrent see bug #162861

** Also affects: language-pack-kde-pl (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

** Also affects: language-pack-kde-fr (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

** Also affects: language-pack-kde-cs (Ubuntu)

[Harald Sitter]

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-cs (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Medium
Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-de (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Medium
Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-en (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Medium
Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-es (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Medium
Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-fr (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Medium
Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-hu (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Medium
Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-it (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Medium
Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-pl (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Medium
Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-ru (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Medium
Status: New => Confirmed

[Harald Sitter]

Sorry for the flood, but this issue is quite large and therefore hard to
keep track of.

I did some research and posted my results in bug #222221 to Rosetta (the
Launchpad Translation component which is causing these issues), please
post extran research information which are helpful in order to fix the
bug there.

Thank you all for reporting these issues and sorry for leaving them
unnoticed for so long.

[toer]

** Also affects: language-pack-kde-sv (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

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[Harald Sitter]

** Also affects: language-pack-kde-ca (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-ca (Ubuntu)

Importance: Undecided => Medium
Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-sv (Ubuntu)

Importance: Undecided => Medium
Status: New => Confirmed

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[toer]

My Dolphin within (K)Ubuntu 7.10 , gutsy, displaying in the Swedish language, issues
the annoying line at each window refresh (even F5). I updated the last sections to
....
msgid ""
"_: NAME OF TRANSLATORS\n"
"Your names"
msgstr ",Launchpad Contributions:,Daniel Nylander"

msgid ""
"_n: 1 File selected (%1)\n"
"%n Files selected (%1)"
msgstr ""
"1 fil markerad (%1)\n"
"%n filer markerade (%1)"

msgid ""
"_n: 1 Folder selected\n"
"%n Folders selected"
msgstr ""
"1 mapp markerad\n"
"%n mappar markerade"

msgid ""
"_n: 1 Item\n"
"%n Items"
msgstr ""
"1 objekt\n"
"%n objekt"

But (at least) this status message is untranslated (no error message
though), example:

"23 Objects (3 Folders, 20 Files)" is translated into "23 objekt (3
Folders, 20 Files) ", that is, the expression within brackets is not
translated. By the way, shouldn't the term "Directory" be preferred
before "Folder"? In such a case, the Swedish corresponding word to be
used is "katalog", pl. "kataloger".

[Mads Peter Rommedahl]

I can confirm this behaviour in Amarok w/ Danish translation - try
right-clicking on a track and in the menu you can see "BROKEN
TRANSLATION Edit Track Information..."

[Harald Sitter]

** Also affects: language-pack-kde-da (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-da (Ubuntu)

Importance: Undecided => Medium
Status: New => Confirmed

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[Carlos Perelló Marín]

You can see the action plan we are going to take at:

https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/222221/comments/5

** Changed in: rosetta
Importance: Undecided => High
Status: New => Confirmed
Target: None => 1.2.5

[Jonathan Riddell]

Jeroen commented on bug 222221, hopefully it'll get fixed in the next
Launchpad update.

[Данило Шеган]

** Changed in: rosetta
Assignee: (unassigned) => Данило Шеган (danilo)

[Данило Шеган]

** Changed in: rosetta
Status: Confirmed => In Progress

[Данило Шеган]

Fixed in RF 6361.

** Changed in: rosetta
Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

[Diogo Matsubara]

** Changed in: rosetta
Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

[Данило Шеган]

Note: for translations to be actually fixed, we need both .pot and .po
files re-uploaded (since the bug caused Launchpad to lose some data, we
can't reconstruct it).

[Tom Chiverton]

This has been marked invalid for Amarok, but I still see it in 8.04.1's
Amarok (english locale) and the matching KDE bug has been closed as a
Ubuntu problem.

[Alexis]

Indeed, I haven't seen any changes in Amarok. Why it is not possible to
correct this mistranslations quickly? More than 3 mouth now..

[gordboy]

I agree with Alexis, but I go further.

It is high time that the people who are responsible for maintaining
Hardy were shown the door. It is been an unmitigated disaster from Day
1.

What is infuriating is that people who are capable and want to help are
being denied access in order to "protect" the reputations of the current
maintainers.

I have never seen such a comedy of errors from a bunch of amateur
muppets. It not only brings Ubuntu into disrepute, it also brings the
whole open source movement into disrepute.

[Harald Sitter]

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, gordboy.

[Alexis]

Me, I understand gordboy. For several months we have reported a bug bad
translations that seems important (several errors of translation into
several languages). We (the community) are ready to make corrections.
But nothing happens. There are no updates. No message of responsible
packages in question.

FOSS say working with the community. The community is there. Perhaps
inexperienced, but voluntary. What can be done?

What we expect to make the correction knowing that it can be done very
quickly?

[Martin Pitt]

Which packages' translations does that affect at all, just amarok's?

I was pointed to this problem recently, I'm currently discussing with
the LP maintainers how we can recover the original translations without
trashing manual changes made in the LP web UI.

[Lydia Pintscher]

According to the duplicate reports it affects at least Amarok, KTorrent, Dolphin and Adept-notifier.
I assume it affects more.

[Harald Sitter]

This is not a fix, it's a very temporary workaround (one would have to
do this after every upgrade).

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-de (Ubuntu)

Status: Fix Committed => Confirmed

[noisy]

this fixed the problem for me (with language-pack-kde-de):
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/198864/comments/4

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-de (Ubuntu)

Status: Confirmed => Fix Committed

[Takahani]

Still here in amarok 1.4.9.1 french medibuntu version, Ubuntu 8.04

[Tom Chiverton]

This appears fixed in 8.04 as of now (UK english)

[cheoppy]

Latest Amarok update from hardy-updates broke Hungarian translations.
Amarok package version: 1.4.9.1-0ubuntu3.1.

[Arne Goetje]

We have new language-pack updates in hardy-proposed. Can you please test
if the problem still exists with the latest updates? Thanks.

[Arne Goetje]

Apparently this was a major bug in Launchpad which has been fixed
already in May/June. Unfortunately we need to import all the KDE
translations again, since some data got lost due to that bug. This task
got lost somehow. We are working on reimporting them right now and will
generate new language-packs when it's done.

Thanks for the heads up.

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-ca (Ubuntu)

Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-cs (Ubuntu)

Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-da (Ubuntu)

Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-de (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-en (Ubuntu)

Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-es (Ubuntu)

Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-fr (Ubuntu)

Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-hu (Ubuntu)

Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-it (Ubuntu)

Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-pl (Ubuntu)

Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-ru (Ubuntu)

Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-sv (Ubuntu)

Status: Confirmed => In Progress

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[Martin Pitt]

https://chinstrap.canonical.com/~pitti/kde-rebuilds/ has the rebuilt
translation tarballs for import.

[Данило Шеган]

I've uploaded KDE files to Launchpad, I am hoping they'll be imported
during weekend. Martin, thanks for providing these.

[Flames_in_Paradise]

First let me state I like Kubuntu (8.04 LTS), don't like KDE 4 for various reason.
It's not the eye candy, I dislike..., but the memory consumption of plasma in special.
So I'm happy with KDE 3.5.10 - even with an update to 8.10 (very nice) I would reconvert.

Apropos Eyecandy. The last three Language Packs did not update this error yet.
It still appears & hurt my eyes everyday. I really wonder how many users accept this sluggish error. Will you pls by update the priority by now to high ?
Dolphin is a every day tool - so I + any other user would stumple 'bout this (again)
sluggish error on a daily & frequent frequent base. This is by no ways acceptable.

It really disappoints me this error has not been corrected yet. The workaround from Urs worked 'til today - but now there ain't no "d3'lphin.mo" no more in the directory
user/share/locale-langpack/de/LC_MESSAGES/ ???

What can we do, but wait ???

Greetings to all
(from Germany)

[Flames_in_Paradise]

KDE 3.5.10 / Dolphin / Broken Translation

Hello again
I've got to correct myself. The file "d3lphin.mo" is in the given place.

And this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/198864/comments/4
(dated 2008-06-16) worked fine again.

Looking forward to the nxt KDE-Language-Pack...
Again, I'd like to ask to set prority of this error to "high" since it was not get done on three updates. Is that possible ?

Best greetings

[Flames_in_Paradise]

Hello
thanks for the fast reply !
as stated before the error recurred with the last three updates on the language packs.

Today was installed:

Richte language-pack-de ein (1:8.04+20081103) ...
Richte language-pack-en ein (1:8.04+20081103) ...
Richte language-pack-kde-de ein (1:8.04+20081103) ...
Richte language-pack-kde-en ein (1:8.04+20081103) ... dpkg run finished

And there was this error again, this is why I am slightly upset...
Tested and still there.
There is a thread on the forum ubuntuuseres.de:
http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/uebersetzungsfehler-seit-update/
Firstly opened since 29-02-2008

This is were I found the link to the temporarely workaround.
Today I reopened the thread there as unsolved, since it was not really solved with a workaround.
I would not have reporteted this bug, if it wouldn't have appeared the fourth time in a row
with the update of the language packs. It's an ongoing error.
I'm a patient person - but today I was fed. Got myself a login-ID-that much fed.
With the visual effect on a standard user, I would justify this error as serious.
The more hence it seems to be very tiny coding work.
Excuses for inconveniences coming up with this old crap again.

Hope this help to make Kubuntu better everyday.
Especially as I will stay with the LTS-Version.
Thanks again for fast reply.
Best regards ROLAND

[Flames_in_Paradise]

Tks 4 explanation + tks 4 taking action
Greetings from Germany

[Flames_in_Paradise]

Hi there,

this sluggish error reoccured again on the update of the KDE-language-
packs on 07-Dec-2008

Kubuntu 8.04.1 - D3lphin 0.9.2 - KDE 3.5.10

(Lese Datenbank ... 177286 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.)
Vorbereiten zum Ersetzen von language-pack-de 1:8.04+20081103
(durch .../language-pack-de_1%3a8.04+20081124_all.deb) ...
Entpacke Ersatz für language-pack-de ...
Ersetze die Dateien im alten Paket language-pack-de-base ...
Vorbereiten zum Ersetzen von language-pack-en 1:8.04+20081103
(durch .../language-pack-en_1%3a8.04+20081124_all.deb) ...
Entpacke Ersatz für language-pack-en ...
Ersetze die Dateien im alten Paket language-pack-en-base ...
Vorbereiten zum Ersetzen von language-pack-kde-de 1:8.04+20081103
(durch .../language-pack-kde-de_1%3a8.04+20081124_all.deb) ...
Entpacke Ersatz für language-pack-kde-de ...
Ersetze die Dateien im alten Paket language-pack-kde-de-base ...
Vorbereiten zum Ersetzen von language-pack-kde-en 1:8.04+20081103
(durch .../language-pack-kde-en_1%3a8.04+20081124_all.deb) ...
Entpacke Ersatz für language-pack-kde-en ...
Ersetze die Dateien im alten Paket language-pack-kde-en-base ...
Richte language-pack-de ein (1:8.04+20081124) ...
Richte language-pack-en ein (1:8.04+20081124) ...
Richte language-pack-kde-de ein (1:8.04+20081124) ...
Richte language-pack-kde-en ein (1:8.04+20081124) ...
dpkg run finished!

I also refer to bug# 44599

Hope this error may be settled soon, ongoing since Version 7.04- this is
hardly believable

regards

** Attachment added: "Broken Transl. 20081213-01.jpg"
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20865862/Broken%20Transl.%2020081213-01.jpg

[Flames_in_Paradise]

Detailized Picture added

** Attachment added: "Visual effect of the error marked"
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20867545/Broken%20Transl.%2020081213-01.png

[uqbar]

I think none is really interested in this flaw.
I moved to English Kubuntu just to avoid a number of similar problems.
My next move will be to a different more careful distro.

[Arne Goetje]

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-ca (Ubuntu)

Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-cs (Ubuntu)

Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-da (Ubuntu)

Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-de (Ubuntu)

Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-en (Ubuntu)

Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-es (Ubuntu)

Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-fr (Ubuntu)

Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-hu (Ubuntu)

Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-it (Ubuntu)

Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-pl (Ubuntu)

Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-ru (Ubuntu)

Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Changed in: language-pack-kde-sv (Ubuntu)

Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

[Flames_in_Paradise]

8.04 KDE 3.5.10 D3lphin

Actually I feel quite sorry about the current development on this bug.
D3lphin has become an english peninsula within my german localised
distro during the last language pack update. Looking up /usr/share
/locale-langpack/de/LC_MESSAGES/ The file d3lphin.mo this file is
completely missing now.

This application seems to be completely given up by the maintainer at alpha status? Trying to go to the homepage of the developer I get a warning on the Certificate in Firefox. I will n o t open it.

Why is this not communicated?

Just hope this does not become security measures one day.

Thanks for looking at this subject.

With kind regards

[uqbar]

An untrusted certificate should not hurt anyone.
>From the website:

<quote>
Hi folks,

sorry for all these inconviniences, but at the moment I have really no
time to code on D3lphin because of personal issues :-(

If one wants to help with D3lphin, send me a mail and I can give you SVN
access, maybe there are people with more time than me. Still wondering
if it was a good idea to take over maintaining of D3lphin :-( Sorry!

Best regards,

-- marrat 2007-12-17 08:22:57
</quote>

Which is a 13 months old "hold on" message.
I would advise the guys at Ubuntu/Debian to revert to the ol' good konqueror.

[Thomas K]

2009/1/20 uqbar <vincenz...@gmail.com>

> I would advise the guys at Ubuntu/Debian to revert to the ol' good
> konqueror.

Kubuntu has moved to KDE4 for Intrepid onwards, so there will be no need to
revert (D3lphin is the KDE3 version of dolphin, a mainly KDE4 program, which
works fine). In the mean time, konqueror is still there in Hardy if you want
to use it.

[Flames_in_Paradise]

I am not familiar with Konquerer, and I will not use. Taking Krusader
instead.

I have issued the so called fix in german ubuntu forum
(dolphin_fixed.mo). This "fix" has not come around to get implemented
for a long time.

I think we cannot reach all KDE 8.04 user thruout Germany via a forum
message?. Handling bugs like this does damage to the Image of KDE. Same
like KDE 4.0 on 8.10 did via lack of communication.

The international bug jam would have some good leg taping & laughters on
this. All this is going back to the fact that some1 put a wrong status
on this bug in regards of d3lphin (mine& confirmed of some other users
is german speaking with us again!)

Thanks 4 ur help.

robin

[David Planella]

** Also affects: ubuntu-translations
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

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Broken plural forms in KDE
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