Website in Progress

[Ateafac Sylvanus]

Hi everyone,

Over the term break, I did some work on the website project and this
is what I managed to put together. I started first with framesets,
frames and iframes but the pages were not browser friendly. So I
started a new project with tables which I think is much flexible with
browsers. However, there are still many fixes to be done especially on
implementing dynamic content for pages that would require frequent
updates, such as news, publications, etc.

Secondly, the search box isn't working yet but this would be done when
we migrate to our own server space which I don't know yet. Other
functionalities like the "furum" blog, mailing list, donations (credit
card processor), and many others.

In the server, this will be easily implemented with applications like
PHP, MYSQL, and other third party software.

Like I said, our website is to be build with our own tags and codes
as you can observe from the pages already layed out.

Major task remaining to be implemented
i) the website search application or search box
2) the forum blog engine for discussions
3) the credit card processing application
4) Content Management System on pages that require dynamic content
5) add content to the News Headline box on the home page from an
editable source like XML document.
I think there are many other aspects I can't think of right now but
your suggestions count very much.

These are the aspects still remaining to be addressed so your point of
view would count much in this direction.

Download the files and launch the site from the index page and post
your oppinions.

Best,
Ateafac.

[Joan Advincula]

Hello Ateafac and everyone,

First of all, I would like to say that it will be better if our website conforms to current standards. We can't let it look like it is from an era ago. Of course, that also means that we can't code it like it is from some previous era. Hence, frames are definitely out of the question. And tables... Well, they were a good idea once before for website layout but we have CSS now (We can learn a lot from here: http://www.csszengarden.com/.) and a lot of new things (<header>, <footer>, <nav>, etc.) with the latest HTML standard (HTML5) so, let's make use of them.

I'm not being crazy about all the latest stuff but going the way of frames and tables on a new website at this time is not a good idea.

Second, we can start everything from scratch but... Can't we use templates to learn from?

Third, the credit card processing application. I think it would be better if we use already established payment processing system for this. Like Paypal. I think people would be more comfortable donating through that channel. Security is a messy thing. I don't think we should fiddle with this already.

- Joan

P.S. The ISP is not cooperating so I'm still trying to download the attachment.

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[Sean Brady]

Excellent attempt on the website.

 

One recommendation in co-ordination with the W3C, change all website image files to PNG format where possible.

 

Check out W3C png vs gif to verify.

 

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[Ateafac Sylvanus]

Hi Joan,

Your point of view concerning the website is well understood because I
believe everyone’s point of view counts. I couldn’t reply earlier
because I’m taking on two very challenging courses and still trying to
create a balance with managing my time.

While I do appreciate your objective approach, there is much we still
have to learn working as a group. Our comments need to reflect what we
learn at UoPeople because comments like “We can't let it look like it

is from an era ago. Of course, that also means that we can't code it

like it is from some previous era.” I think there are many better ways
of saying this and I don’t think we can just jump to some supper era
and exist there without knowing basics. Besides, we are not building
this website to take it to some contest, it’s merely a tool to enable
us learn.

That said, take a look at this website www.uopeople.org and see how
much tables are being used it, or some of the pages on the YAHOO!
website. Though your suggestion was a good one, getting it across is
another thing. That's the diversity we have.

When I’ll be able to have some time in my hands I would try using CSS
to layout the pages as you suggested. Notwithstanding, you can also
supply your own code for the CSS layout the way you feel it should be.
Also, understand that the contents I included are just page feeders
and not necessarily the content to go there.


- Ateafac


“If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.”
- African Proverb.

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[Ateafac Sylvanus]

Hi Sean,

You are right, PNG is the recommended image format according to W3C
standards. Also, thanks for appreciating, always requires few
attempts to get it right. We are all building this together.

- Ateafac

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[Joan Advincula]

Hello Ateafac,

I just got back online. Couldn't reply sooner either.

On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 11:47 PM, Ateafac Sylvanus <atea...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Joan,

Your point of view concerning the website is well understood because I
believe everyone’s point of view counts. I couldn’t reply earlier
because I’m taking on two very challenging courses and still trying to
create a balance with managing my time.

While I do appreciate your objective approach, there is much we still
have to learn working as a group. Our comments need to reflect what we
learn at UoPeople because comments like “We can't let it look like it

is from an era ago. Of course, that also means that we can't code it

like it is from some previous era.” I think there are many better ways
of saying this and I don’t think we can just jump to some supper era
and exist there without knowing basics. Besides, we are not building
this website to take it to some contest, it’s merely a tool to enable
us learn.

Please don't take it as a bad thing. I didn't mean to offend anyone.

But, just like you said, we are building our website so that we can learn from it. That said, why don't we learn using industry standards, right? The basics of a lot of things aren't permanent. Some of them change over time.

For instance, in our case, while the basics for webpage layout used to be tables, the basics today include CSS. I still think we could do better if we start from there.

Although, of course, not everyone has voiced their opinions just yet. Before we can come up with anything final, we could take a vote.

[snipped]

When I’ll be able to have some time in my hands I would try using CSS
to layout the pages as you suggested. Notwithstanding, you can also
supply your own code for the CSS layout the way you feel it should be.
Also, understand that the contents I included are just page feeders
and not necessarily the content to go there.

Of course, I understand placeholders. Most people would use lorem ipsum but it matters not if you don't.

When I have enough time, I try and submit that mock-up I've been trying to build.

[snipped]

What does everyone think about this?

- Joan