Firefox for U3 crashes on startup

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jeremy rockefeller

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Sep 15, 2009, 8:38:49 AM9/15/09
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hi,

i have a problem with Firefox for U3 (v3.5.3) since about a hour and a
half. every time i try to run it i see the Mozilla Crash Reporter
window and the browser wont run. i dont know why, did nothing strange
before. right now im writing this with Opera v10 -what a piece of
shit, i hate this fucking browser, i miss my Firefox!!!!

can someone help me out please? thxs

- Jeremy

Koftar Jamal

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Sep 18, 2009, 7:34:00 PM9/18/09
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i tried to use u3 with macbook pro but i didn't se u3 flash drive on the screen 

Cy

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Sep 19, 2009, 7:21:00 PM9/19/09
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Did you download the v3.5.3 while online at the Firefox site?

My understanding is that the current version for U3 is much lower...........mine is v2.0.0.4 on my various Sandisk U3 drives.

How did you get v.3.5.3????

Valeria Zysman

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Sep 21, 2009, 10:51:18 AM9/21/09
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Koftar, you can use the U3 Smart flash STORE drive in a MacBook Pro or any non-Windows operating system, but not the U3 Smart Launchpad nor the programs you have there, just the store drive.

I have a MacBook (the standard one, no a MacBook Pro). I just insert the U3 Smart flash drive into an USB 2.0 port and it is displayed as an external unit. You should be able to do it this way. If not, trying mounting it.

Have a nice day!

2009/9/18 Koftar Jamal <kof...@yahoo.com>

 
i tried to use u3 with macbook pro but i didn't se u3 flash drive on the screen 



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Valeria Zysman

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Sep 21, 2009, 11:41:23 AM9/21/09
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Jeremy,

This problem could have many solutions:
■ Adobe Flash Player version. What version of Adobe Flash Player do you have installed on your PC? Some weeks ago Adobe released a new Flash version, because the previous version had a big exploit. If you have Adobe Flash Player 10.0.22.87, you should update it to 10.0.32.18, which is the one that fixes this security and stability issue. Download the latest Adobe Flash Player version, CLOSE ALL THE WINDOWS OF ALL THE WEB BROWSERS YOU ARE RUNNING and then double click on the AFP installer file to update your AFP version. The updating will take just a few seconds. When done, reboot your computer.
■ Free space on the U3 Smart flash drive. Do you have enough free space on your flash drive? I mean, at least some 50 MB. If you have not, this could be one reason why Mozilla Firefox is not capable to run (the more extensions you have enabled, the more free space you will need).
■ Mozilla Firefox's experimental add-ons. Have you lately installed any experimental add-on? Some experimental add-ons could be affecting seriously the Mozilla Firefox's stability. Some days ago this happened to me. There is an add-on from Mozilla Labs called Test Pilot which also launched the Mozilla Crash Reporter instead of the web browser itself. I had the Test Pilot version 0.2.0 and the version 0.2.1 was available, so I downloaded it and installed it, then I restarted the web browser. And here is when the trouble began: Mozilla Firefox did not run and the Mozilla Crash Reporter ran instead. I tried once and again but had not success. So I closed the Mozilla Crash Reporter window, clicked on the Eject button from the U3 Smart Launchpad. Then I removed my U3 Smart flash drive from the USB 2.0 port and inserted it again. Once the Launchpad was ready I attempted to run Mozilla Firefox and the first thing I saw was the Firefox Add-on Updates window for Test Pilot 0.2.1.I finished installing it and done! The Mozilla Firefox web browser came back to life! :) In fact, Test Pilot 0.2.1's release notes said that was a bug found in the version 0.2.

Do you remember the names of the add-ons and themes you have installed on your Mozilla Firefox for U3 browser? If you remember any of them, just write a replying and insert their names here, so we can see if your case is an add-on related issue.

Oh, and when you need another web browser running from your computer, give Flock or CometBird a try! Opera is absolutely POS, but I know some bigger POS... LOL :P

Cy,

You have an unsupported version, very old and not very secure (although in any case securer and stabler than any MSIE version XD).

Try this: first run Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.4 from your U3 Smart flash drive. From the menu bar, go to Help > Check for Updates... and cross your fingers. ;)

If you are using the Mozilla's official build you will prompted to update to 2.0.0.20. Download the updates and when completely finished, restart your web browser to install all the updates. BE VERY PATIENT, The update installation process could take up to five minutes. DO NOT REMOVE THE U3 FLASH DRIVE NOR SHUT YOUR PC DOWN. The installation progress bar seems to go so slow or not to be moving at all, but the update process is being taken, so please, be patient. Do not touch anything.

When done, the browser will start. Now, again, go to Help > Check for Updates... and, you will be prompted to update Mozilla Firefox to 3.0.10 (I think). Do it and repeat the previous steps (please, remember to be patient in the downloading & update installation).

Once you have Mozilla Firefox 3.0.10 fully installed, repeat again the same steps. :P Not kidding. :P :P

Now, finally, you will asked if you want to update to 3.5.3. You already should know what to do... ;)

If all that does not work, you may have installed an non-official build. Back up all your Mozilla Firefox important data (bookmarks, add-ons, etcetera) and uninstall it from your U3 Smart flash drive. Download this, which is the official one and repeat the steps above. This version works for sure.

Oh, and if you want Mozilla Firefox updates automatically, read this.

Hope this helps.

I am in a hurry, so excuse me if anything is non-sense. I have to go to college now! Please, Jeremy and Cy, try these and tell me later if you both could solved these issues. I will be replying into this week.

Thanks! Bye!

2009/9/19 Cy <res0...@gmail.com>
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Cy

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Sep 21, 2009, 7:53:42 PM9/21/09
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Valeria,
Need to have someone correct the understanding that I have been working under regarding U3 programs.  From the start, it was my understanding that programs needed to be converted to U3 to run correctly.  If that is true, then when connected via a U3 drive, one needs to decline any updates that are suggested since they are intended for PC usage and not U3.

Again, if this assumption is correct, where did one get the U3 ver.3.5.3 for Firefox?

I have been running programs that have been converted by PackageFactory and they have been working normally, but for me, it is guess work as to where and what to put on the U3 to make the data relate to the U3.

Also, I have been trying to find how to install programs that have been converted with Thinstall.  Does anyone have a step-by-step instructions on how to install such a conversion to the U3 drive??    There seems to be a lot of files connected to this type of conversion, but again, where do they go and how does one install those on the U3.

Any help on the above would be great!



On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Valeria Zysman <vzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeremy,

This problem could have many solutions:
■ Adobe Flash Player version. What version of Adobe Flash Player do you have installed on your PC? Some weeks ago Adobe released a new Flash version, because the previous version had a big exploit. If you have Adobe Flash Player 10.0.22.87, you should update it to 10.0.32.18, which is the one that fixes this security and stability issue. Download the latest Adobe Flash Player version, CLOSE ALL THE WINDOWS OF ALL THE WEB BROWSERS YOU ARE RUNNING and then double click on the AFP installer file to update your AFP version. The updating will take just a few seconds. When done, reboot your computer.
■ Free space on he U3 Smart flash drive. Do you have enough free space on your flash drive? I mean, at least some 50 MB. If you have not, this could be one reason why Mozilla Firefox is not capable to run (the more extensions you have enabled, the more free space you will need).

Cristóbal Torres-Vélez

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Sep 19, 2009, 8:19:10 PM9/19/09
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To get version 3.5.3 you must manually check for updates enough times until you get it.  

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Jeremy Rockefeller

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Sep 21, 2009, 12:26:38 PM9/21/09
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thats it!!! thank you Valeria!!! youre right, it was Test Pilot. i did
exactly what you said and worked perfectly! youre just a genius!

i also had the old Flash version, so thanks for the updated file! oh
and thanks for your suggestions about Flock and CometBird, i just
downloaded both and like them. im gonna keep them altogether with my
default browser: Firefox. Opera v10 has passed away. 100% pure POS. =)


2009/9/21 Valeria Zysman <vzy...@gmail.com>:

Valeria Zysman

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Sep 25, 2009, 12:02:00 PM9/25/09
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Cy,

From the start, it was my understanding that programs needed to be converted to U3 to run correctly”.

That is right. You can not install a conventional program into an U3 Smart flash drive and run it from there. Any U3 application needs to be previously formatted to the be U3 platform compliant.

If that is true, then when connected via a U3 drive, one needs to decline any updates that are suggested since they are intended for PC usage and not U3”.

It depends on how the U3 application was built.

I mean, if YOU or any third party made an U3 unofficial build of any piece of software, then you can bet that it may be a non-updatable application. The source code needs to be re-coded in order to install the updates into your U3 Smart flash drive, not into your hard drive. PC programs like PackageFactory can not convert any Windows-native build into an U3-native build, especially when you talk about big programs like Adobe Photoshop, Nero Suite, Sony Sound Forge, AutoCAD, etcetera. This kind of programs usually use a lot of plug-ins and components, and they also need to be formatted to be U3-compliant (id est, they also need to be automatically installed on the U3 flash drive and, when needed, load from here). This is one case.

The other case is different. If the U3 build was made by the same company that released the Windows-native build, it will work perfectly. This is the case of Mozilla Firefox for U3 and Mozilla Thunderbird for U3. Both programs have been development by Mozilla itself, so they are 100% U3-compliant. This means you can update to the latest version if you have the Mozilla's official build (if you are using a build created by PackageFactory or another similar software, updates will be not possible).

You said you have installed Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.4 on your U3 Smart flash drives, do not you? So, click the U3 icon on the taskbar, mouse over Mozilla Firefox for U3, access the context menu (right click if you are right-handed) and select Properties. Who is the vendor? If it says Mozilla®, you are probably using the Mozilla Firefox's U3 official build made by Mozilla. So, give it a shot, try to update it as I told you before. And tell me what happened then, if you were successful.

About Thinstall, I do not know that program. I will do some searching and if I find something useful, I will share it here. In the meantime, I uploaded several versions that I have found, for you. Here is a step-by-step tutorial, but it is in Spanish. I think there was a file named How-To in one of the folders into the compressed file I uploaded. I have not checked any of these programs.

WARNING! 4shared (my hosting web-site service) says that the file I just uploaded has a virus (Backdoor.Win32.IRCBot.jmy). I checked that file in my computer four times and my antivirus found nothing. It is up to date, obviously. I recommend you to do NOT download it, unless you really need Thinstall. If you are decided to download it, once it is in your computer, do not uncompress it, check it with your antivirus first.

Anyway, remember you can convert some Windows-native programs into U3-native ones (especially, those which are small) with this kind of programs (PackageFactory, Thinstall, etcetera), but depending on each program's behavior, they either could work with no problems at all, or they could crash or freeze, or send error messages, or disable some functions, etcetera. To convert almost any Windows-native program into an U3 build, you have to got the application's source code and some programming skills. If the program you need to convert to, is software libre, it is possible to create (by the same program's author or by a good third party programmer) an U3 Smart build that works seamlessly. Nonetheless, if that program is proprietary software, it is not possible (however the author of a proprietary Windows-native program could create an U3 Smart build by him/herself and publish it for free or sell it. You can see a lot of these cases at the U3 Software Central.)

I hope you have good luck, Cy! :)

Jeremy,

You are welcome. ;) I am glad you liked CometBird and Flock and sent Opera where it belongs: the Recycle Bin. XD XD XD

And thanks for helping Mozilla improve Firefox through Test Pilot.

Everybody have a great weekend!

Cy

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Sep 25, 2009, 5:42:14 PM9/25/09
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Thank you for the reply.

I tried to update my Firefox which it did on the computer but did not actually update the U3 drive.  After all the updates to the current one but it did not update the drive version.  Sooooooooooo, the next time I logon to Firefox, I am still at the old version.

What did I do that was wrong and did not actual change the software on the U3??????
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