With or Without You - what type of drive?

[robo]

Hi,

I'd like to ask the Pod HD500 users: Which drive do you use for WOWY.
'Cause I fiddled with this aspect quite a bit and I'm still not so
happy with it (though, I'm leaning towards the Screamer right now)

Oh and one more thing - do you use shimmer through the entire song?

Any opinion's welcome :)

Thanks,

robo

[joshtree14]

Check my YouTube video, look up joshtree14. I'm using screamer
between 2 and 9 % drive, let me know if you like that tone, using
hd500 with triad and Liverpool

[joshtree14]

I use shimmer thru the whole song, you can hear it very well when the
song ends. The shimmer trail off

[JT]

Man,
No offense, but the customary practice in this group is to post the youtube link for ease of access.

I'd just use the boost comp.
Are you using real amp or vox amp sim on the HD?

JT

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[joshtree14]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVda3d64b5c

[joshtree14]

I'm using the tech 21 Liverpool in the fx loop

[robo]

Thanks for the input guys :)

I use a real amp - Orange Crush Pix 20LDX

joshtree14 - great tone and playin' man - and I see you use the
octoreverb for the intro as well :)

[Michael O'Hare]

Here is what I do since I use rack equip and don't have Edge's exact pedals.  Choose a version of the song you like.  Choose each drive and play along and figure out which is closer.  Then choose that one and start changing the drive and tone controls and converge to the sound.  There are so many drives on the Line 6 and Axe units that it is impossible not to find the right one.  But it takes time.  I used a model that was similar to the SD-1 but I always change the parameters so it ends up being a custom version because I have a different guitar than Edge and everyone here.  Also you probably have different EQ on your amp or amp model, and therefore the EQ settings on the pedal need to compensate for the EQ in the rest of the chain to get to the "Edge's" tone (EQ).

M

robo

[robo]

Yeah, I do that as well. But WOWY is tough one, so I tought I'd ask
what are the preferences of others.

But what is most intriguing about this song for me is that I can't
decide for just one version. You know, sometimes I play the R&H
version, sometimes I like to play with the Zoo TV solo and sometimes a
bit more simple like Slane or Milan. I thin that is the most amazing
thing about WOWY - it can be played quite different and every time the
hairs on my neck stand up :D

On 3. Dec., 16:33 h., "Michael O'Hare" <u2guitartutori...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Here is what I do since I use rack equip and don't have Edge's exact
> pedals.  Choose a version of the song you like.  Choose each drive and play
> along and figure out which is closer.  Then choose that one and start
> changing the drive and tone controls and converge to the sound.  There are
> so many drives on the Line 6 and Axe units that it is impossible not to
> find the right one.  But it takes time.  I used a model that was similar to
> the SD-1 but I always change the parameters so it ends up being a custom
> version because I have a different guitar than Edge and everyone here.
>  Also you probably have different EQ on your amp or amp model, and
> therefore the EQ settings on the pedal need to compensate for the EQ in the
> rest of the chain to get to the "Edge's" tone (EQ).
>
> M
>

[Marc Sarault]

I mix the Boss Overdrive along with the the tubescreamer to get the with or
without you R&H tone.

Marc

[Edgewannabe]

You mean the pedal when you say the Boss Overdrive? In the HD500 the
Overdrive/Preamp is a based on DOD Overdrive 250 model.

[Marc Sarault]

I could never get proper ovewrdrive through my hd500. I run my boss OD-2
with my TS9 together then through the hd500.

[Jeff Shirkey]

On Dec 4, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Marc Sarault wrote:

> I could never get proper ovewrdrive through my hd500.

For all songs, or just WOWY? I am pretty fond of the quality of fx in
the M series (they all seem at least adequate, and many are very nice
indeed), so that's why I ask.

Jeff

[wkj...@aol.com]

I don't have a Pod HD500, but I used a Boss DS-1 Distortion pedal on
my cover, not sure if the Pod has something similar to that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQzPF2kKXk8&feature=related

Bill

[macphistoo]

When I had a HD500, I had good results on this song with the Tube
Screamer. Depending of the pups you have, you will probably have to
reduce the "tone" control on them since it's played on the bridge.

Fabrice

[Michael O'Hare]

The key to wowy is not so much which exact drive, as I'm sure a few of them will work.  It's having a guitar with hot rail pups in it (and played on the bridge pup into Vox).  That will give you your core tone and give you more flexibility on which drive to use.

M

[antoniovox]

but many here said in an old topic that it has to be played in neck
position (using a strat)....

[Alfredo Sergio Neto]

Makes sense, since the sustainer is usually on the neck pickup. And this also makes sense, since it's easier to vibrate a string on the closest point to the middle of string lenght.

 

I'm planning to upgrade my strat's neck pickup to a sustainer on a near future. It's pickups are all stock (Fender MIM), but to my ears they sound pretty good, so I´m still deciding if I´ll upgrade all of them, or just the neck PUP.

 

But as for the drive itself (coming back to the topic), I´m confortable with the TS (from the HD500). Controlling it's tone parameters in conjunction with the tone knob from the guitar did the trick for me.

2011/12/8 antoniovox <bono...@inwind.it>

[Marc Sarault]

Well I just think the od-2 gives my a little more warmth in tone that I
can't copy yet.
I'm still working at it. But I am giving it a break for a few days. It's
like painting in front of a white wall...
after a few hours all you see is white. I have had succes mixing the sound
white the line 6 drive along with the overdrive
simulation. But it's not exactly the same.

Marc
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