Typo3 India Beta
gaurav
Typo3 India User Group Beta has been released as per following Details
* Website : http://typo3assist.com/TYPO3_in_India.263.0.html
* Mailing List : typo3...@googlegroups.com group
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/typo3-india
Stuff To Do (Action Items )
* Clean & Put More Content
* Request Rahul to point Typo3.in to this site
* Configure Forums
* List Possible projects for next year
* Encourage more people to join/ support TUG India
* Typo3 Consultation services
* Any Ideas??
Why be part of Typo India ?
* Get to know about more about Typo3
* Get assistance (free and commercial)
* We soon launch Typo3 projects for e-governance, Education Sectors,
SME and free consultation etc
* Good Outsourcing potential/Partnership for companies as well as
individuals and freelancers
* Contribute & learn more !!
About TYPO3assist.com
Project goals:
* Provide manuals and support/ assistance to typo3 users,
devolpers & newcomers
* Content Management System with information and free
consultation on TYPO3.
* Present TYPO3 web-development and extension development
services of freelancers and companies from around the World
* Develop and Support Typo3 Communities / User Groups (Now hosting
Typo3 India & Russia)
We have decided to be part of typo3assist to a promote common
interests/goals and prevent duplication of efforts .
Join it to keep in touch!!
I would like thank Varley Romanchev & Rahul for support
Regards,
Gaurav
Rahul
Finally I joined the group. :)
Good that you moved and started this. I'd only been thinking and not
acting on the same.
Here are some comments/thoughts:
- So far as I am familiar with such groups, they are all
not-for-profit; I am taking a cue from LUG-Delhi and linux-india.org,
where people contribute voluntarily (we, at Srijan contribute
regularly, with sponsorhsips of equipment or money) - their time,
money, materials, efforts, etc.,
* in making LUG Delhi a popular group,
* popularising Linux usage on the whole,
* supporting the members (each other), amateurs and new comers
- So we need to be sure of the "purpose" of the TUG-India. Let's
discuss the "objectives" (purpose) in this list, and arrive at a
consensus.
- Potential end-customers are normally welcome to post commercial
([COMMERCIAL]) requests on the list, and the members are free to get in
touch with the respective parties offline; or the members may refer
commercial requests to other Typo3 commercial ventures/ companies/
groups (I know this happens often on ILUG-D; People can post job
requests, professional support, etc. with subject title [COMMERCIAL],
and members contact them offline, or other members direct the requests
to some commercial companies as references)
- Anyone could have a separate commercial venture on Typo3 Assisstance
such as typo3assist.com, or probably the one I was hoping to get
Typo3.in (although I was not sure if I could use such a domain name for
purely commercial activities (not legally but ethically), and had
decided to consult people who have been involved in building Typo3 -
probably the Typo3 Association); Ofcourse I was also looking for
spin-offs leading to increased business).
* Why mix such commercial ventures with TUG-India?
- Some TUGs for other countries that I saw are all not-for-profit
ventures
- Also, I think, it may be useful to checkup some 'guidelines' on Typo3
Users Groups given on www.typo3.org, or consult the 'Typo3 Association'
in this matter.
Do you agree? Let's discuss this further.
Thanks,
Rahul
gaurav
Rahul wrote:
>Hi Gaurav,
>
>Finally I joined the group. :)
>
>Good that you moved and started this. I'd only been thinking and not
>acting on the same.
>
>
>
>Here are some comments/thoughts:
>
>- So far as I am familiar with such groups, they are all
>not-for-profit; I am taking a cue from LUG-Delhi and linux-india.org,
>where people contribute voluntarily (we, at Srijan contribute
>regularly, with sponsorhsips of equipment or money) - their time,
>money, materials, efforts, etc.,
>* in making LUG Delhi a popular group,
>* popularising Linux usage on the whole,
>* supporting the members (each other), amateurs and new comers
>
>- So we need to be sure of the "purpose" of the TUG-India. Let's
>discuss the "objectives" (purpose) in this list, and arrive at a
>consensus.
>
>
top of the
>- Potential end-customers are normally welcome to post commercial
>([COMMERCIAL]) requests on the list, and the members are free to get in
>touch with the respective parties offline; or the members may refer
>commercial requests to other Typo3 commercial ventures/ companies/
>groups (I know this happens often on ILUG-D; People can post job
>requests, professional support, etc. with subject title [COMMERCIAL],
>and members contact them offline, or other members direct the requests
>to some commercial companies as references)
>
>- Anyone could have a separate commercial venture on Typo3 Assisstance
>such as typo3assist.com, or probably the one I was hoping to get
>Typo3.in (although I was not sure if I could use such a domain name for
>purely commercial activities (not legally but ethically), and had
>decided to consult people who have been involved in building Typo3 -
>probably the Typo3 Association); Ofcourse I was also looking for
>spin-offs leading to increased business).
>* Why mix such commercial ventures with TUG-India?
>
>
>
(like srijan/ freelancers)...In order to sustain our self in long term
Why not try to implement the Idea of community based company like we
were thinking earlier and benefit entire community??
>- Some TUGs for other countries that I saw are all not-for-profit
>ventures
>
>- Also, I think, it may be useful to checkup some 'guidelines' on Typo3
>Users Groups given on www.typo3.org, or consult the 'Typo3 Association'
>in this matter.
>
>
>
quality and base standards
>Do you agree? Let's discuss this further.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Rahul
>
>
>
>
gaurav
Sander Vogels
Well, it's always exiting and lots of work to start a joined cooperation
so I guess lots of discussions, exchange of thoughts and visions. I will
honestly say to you that within the TYPO3 Association they used to call
me the Dutch Canonball not only for my way of getting downhill on a
snowboard but also because of the fast forward way of undertaking action
in business but also the Association. But I know that you can only be
effective if you cooperate with others and that you all agree on basic
things like common directions and goals. So you in India -and I hope to
keep helping- have a bumpy road to go but it will be great.
IMHO it's best not to mix things up but that doesn't mean you can't do
two things at the same time. So I think on the one hand you can built an
Open Source TYPO3 community which is all about developing TYPO3 in
India. On the other hand you are all free to built your businesses
around TYPO3 or even start some kind of a job pool or joint venture.
Where these two will meet is that on the community website you need
references of TYPO3 sites made by Indian companies so this is how they
get listed in the community. The same goes with extensions; you have to
show the public extensions made by Indian TYPO3 companies on the
community website so there's the connection. Take Typo3.com and
Typo3.org as examples how this should be done.
About the domains don't worry: I see typo3.in is registered by someone
else but Kasper Skarhoy has the intelectual property on TYPO3 so the
right to claim this name and he will like he did with typo3.cn. But I
also preregistered some real nice domains on behalve of the Association
and I have the feeling we have them cause in the WHOIS I see my
registering company. If let you guys here it as soon I hear from my
registar ok?
Kind regards,
Sander Vogels
Netcreators
PS Gaurev, you have Skype also?
Rahul
> >Here are some comments/thoughts:
> >
> >- So far as I am familiar with such groups, they are all
> >not-for-profit; I am taking a cue from LUG-Delhi and
linux-india.org,
> >where people contribute voluntarily (we, at Srijan contribute
> >regularly, with sponsorhsips of equipment or money) - their time,
> >money, materials, efforts, etc.,
> >* in making LUG Delhi a popular group,
> >* popularising Linux usage on the whole,
> >* supporting the members (each other), amateurs and new comers
> >
> >- So we need to be sure of the "purpose" of the TUG-India. Let's
> >discuss the "objectives" (purpose) in this list, and arrive at a
> >consensus.
> >
> >
> I think setting common agenda / goal and arriving at consensus set is
> top of the
I think you meant 'top of the agenda'. Sure.
> Yes we got to mix Not for profit (guys like me) with commercial stuff
> (like srijan/ freelancers)...In order to sustain our self in long
term
Why not allow everyone, to be part of the community mailing list - just
like ILUG-D, or the current Typo3.org lists?. Everyone is invited to
part of that, whatever their end objectives.
> Why not try to implement the Idea of community based company like we
> were thinking earlier and benefit entire community??
The community company idea still holds; but which one - we had 2
slightly different approaches in mind. In any case, I think in both the
approaches there has got to be a 'core team' in place, who form the
nucleus (or mentors) of this community company.
We can still achieve that by being the core, and putting in place
democratic processes to allow dynamism in the company, changing roles,
etc. We still can have different voluntary support lists, and a
separate company (companies), community or closely held.
I do think the model Typo3.org has, with community lists, and a place
for registration for companies, is quite good and appropriate.
Companies, Freelancers, others can register themselves as 'open for
business'. See...
http://typo3.org/about/consultancies-hosting/?no_cache=1&tx_t3consultancies_pi1%5Blang%5D=99
> Yep we must follow guidelines from Typo3 Association to maintain
minimum
> quality and base standards
I think Sander would be happy to help us with this. He has got some
good domains, and after setting up india.typo3.org, we can point these
domains to the same. What all it takes to setup india.typo3.org and
also foremost in building a community - well have to discuss/think -
probably articles, etc.
What do you say?
Thanks,
Rahul